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JM2K6

To explain a bit further: It is true that some US police forces have attended seminars with the Israelis. From what I can tell by reading various articles, the numbers in question are small - around 250 people in total. There is no evidence that the murderers attended these seminars. There is no ev...

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To explain a bit further: It is true that some US police forces have attended seminars with the Israelis. From what I can tell by reading various articles, the numbers in question are small - around 250 people in total. There is no evidence that the murderers attended these seminars. There is no ev...

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To explain a bit further: It is true that some US police forces have attended seminars with the Israelis. From what I can tell by reading various articles, the numbers in question are small - around 250 people in total. There is no evidence that the murderers attended these seminars. There is no ev...

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McDonnell has of course defended both Peakes and RLB and claimed it's not anti-semitic to shoehorn in the baseless theory that the US cops were trained in kneeling on people's necks by the Israeli secret services when discussing George Floyd's murder. Peakes also has form defending Livingstone's ou...

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McDonnell has of course defended both Peakes and RLB and claimed it's not anti-semitic to shoehorn in the baseless theory that the US cops were trained in kneeling on people's necks by the Israeli secret services when discussing George Floyd's murder. Peakes also has form defending Livingstone's out...

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To explain a bit further: It is true that some US police forces have attended seminars with the Israelis. From what I can tell by reading various articles, the numbers in question are small - around 250 people in total. There is no evidence that the murderers attended these seminars. There is no evi...

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The Corbynites were very upset when it was rumoured RLB wouldn't get a place in the shadow cabinet. One can only imagine the conspiracy theories that'll crop up now.

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Hey, if the history is accurate, I'm all for it. Whitewashing history, not so good. You keep saying this sh*t like it's soooooo black and white (Yeah. I know.) Maybe that helps you in your debating activities because then it's not too difficult. It's like your hard on for DAC: his cartoon stereotyp...

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Plaques, statues, place names, paintings. All part of the rich tapestry of history, which once removed is gone. Coulson is looking to be erased from public view, which seems to me more like brushing it under the carpet. “Coulson? Bristol? Nah never did anything” As opposed to “Coulson, enslaving ba...

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Would the Irish, as a minority in England, be justified in tearing down the Cromwell statue and bucking it in the Thames? (On account of the 500,000 civilian deaths caused by him, and the 40,000 Irishmen forcibly taken and used as indentured labourers in England) Then, would the English who support...

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What assertion did I make in that post? I asked a question about the value of statues. It's pretty clear we're talking about public statues put up in honour of named individuals, and particularly those who were responsible for a lot of pain, misery, and death, which the glorification neatly overloo...

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What do you lose by losing the statue exactly? "Denying a historical monument" is a bit vague. What concrete benefits are there to a statue that outweigh the negatives of glorifying someone who was responsible for a huge amount of death and misery? You tried the Cromwell angle 2 pages ago, I dunno ...

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Would the Irish, as a minority in England, be justified in tearing down the Cromwell statue and bucking it in the Thames? (On account of the 500,000 civilian deaths caused by him, and the 40,000 Irishmen forcibly taken and used as indentured labourers in England) Then, would the English who support...

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RodneyRegis wrote:
JM2K6 wrote:Just look at who turned up to defend them.
People who felt able to confront a rabble? I think you'll find plenty of not football hooligans would have been pretty upset by the idea of a BLM organiser saying that Churchill's statue should be taken down.

Time-travellers eh

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mdaclarke wrote:You may find it funny, but I would bet that the majority of british voters don't find a threat to pull down Churchill's statute funny

Quote the threat to pull it down or leave the board forever*

*like a month at most

JM2K6

The Churchill statue thing was an invention. :lol: :lol: The Left try and gaslight people at every turn. It was an invention. No-one was going to pull the statue down. It got graffitied like it has been pretty much every time there's a protest. "Defending the statue" turned into a dog-whistle for r...

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Yes it is. It is evidence that she wants to pull it down, unless you don't consider her to be a person No. It's evidence that she believes it should be in a museum. Which is not evidence she wants to pull it down, nor is it evidence the statue was under threat of being pulled down, especially not w...

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EverReady wrote:
Frodder wrote:Japan v's Scotland - classic
Japan v's Ireland - classic Betfair
Wales v's Australia - classic
SA v's England - classic
Fixed

More Paddy Power I would've thought

JM2K6

The Churchill statue thing was an invention. :lol: :lol: The Left try and gaslight people at every turn. It was an invention . No-one was going to pull the statue down. It got graffitied like it has been pretty much every time there's a protest. "Defending the statue" turned into a dog-whistle for ...

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The Churchill statue thing was an invention. :lol: :lol: The Left try and gaslight people at every turn. It was an invention. No-one was going to pull the statue down. It got graffitied like it has been pretty much every time there's a protest. "Defending the statue" turned into a dog-whistle for r...

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It may well be. Doesn’t mean it has to be pulled down. He was an important man in Bristols history for bad and good. The bad was very bad and had been completely whitewashed with any attempts to alter that squashed. Okay then, I want the statue of Oliver Cromwell taken down from Parliament on accou...

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I’ve held off watching the shows waiting for the fat f**k to finish the books for so long now I can’t remember most of what happened in the last book. Some bad kunts picked up Daenarys at the end didn’t they? I've no idea, I read it in 2011 :lol: I think Lady Stoneheart had something to do with it,...

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Ah, the now boringly predictable "no-one really cares about this stuff, it's all a cynical performance for other reasons" from the right wing. Oh they care, or think they do. I'm open enough that I can visit countries that conquered my own and whose people subject my ancestors to some pretty horren...

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It may well be. Doesn’t mean it has to be pulled down. He was an important man in Bristols history for bad and good. The bad was very bad and had been completely whitewashed with any attempts to alter that squashed. Okay then, I want the statue of Oliver Cromwell taken down from Parliament on accou...

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Ah, the now boringly predictable "no-one really cares about this stuff, it's all a cynical performance for other reasons" from the right wing. Oh they care, or think they do. I'm open enough that I can visit countries that conquered my own and whose people subject my ancestors to some pretty horren...

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Ah, the now boringly predictable "no-one really cares about this stuff, it's all a cynical performance for other reasons" from the right wing.

JM2K6

Is "marxist" the new insult of the month? The weirdo Yank right wing has been yelling about Marxists (and communists) for a few years now, so it's no surprise the same is happening here now. It takes a prety "special" understanding of Marxism to think anyone on this thread is a Marxist, though. Not...

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Having lived for most of my life surrounded by statues of colonizers I can say they have no effect on most people's lives or feelings. They are ignored, sat upon and shat upon. It's the other things that affect you, mainly racist comments and ignorance. Only unstable people worry about statues. "On...

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Yeah, I didn't think you had anything, Santa.

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Having lived for most of my life surrounded by statues of colonizers I can say they have no effect on most people's lives or feelings. They are ignored, sat upon and shat upon. It's the other things that affect you, mainly racist comments and ignorance. Only unstable people worry about statues. "On...

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/11/i-shared-my-home-with-edward-colston-for-more-than-20-years-good-riddance Why did the scenes that played out around Colston’s plinth and at the harbour into which the statue was thrown bring me – during a phone call to another black Bristolian – to the v...

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The other thing is that statue had absolutely no impact on anybody's life or feelings at all. None. Which isn't exactly a reason keep it but it's not a reason to pull it down either. Had absolutely no impact on anybody's feelings? That's a verifiable lie. People have been campaigning against it sin...

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The other thing is that statue had absolutely no impact on anybody's life or feelings at all. None. Which isn't exactly a reason keep it but it's not a reason to pull it down either. Had absolutely no impact on anybody's feelings? That's a verifiable lie. People have been campaigning against it sin...

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Monster :lol: He was a philanthropist. He was engaged in the slave trade, something which was still legal a century after his involvement with the Royal African Company, although it appears that probably didn't contribute much of his vast fortune. He improved the lives of countless people in Brizzl...

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Yeah, been considering doing that, though obviously I've spoiled the story for myself now anyway!

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Is "marxist" the new insult of the month? The weirdo Yank right wing has been yelling about Marxists (and communists) for a few years now, so it's no surprise the same is happening here now. It takes a prety "special" understanding of Marxism to think anyone on this thread is a Marxist, though. I'v...

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Newsome wrote:Is "marxist" the new insult of the month?

The weirdo Yank right wing has been yelling about Marxists (and communists) for a few years now, so it's no surprise the same is happening here now. It takes a prety "special" understanding of Marxism to think anyone on this thread is a Marxist, though.

JM2K6

I've read some excellent reviews about TLOU2 which have pretty much guaranteed I'll never play it. It sounds relentlessly miserable and a real emotional grinder. The reviews genuinely tend to lean towards hyperbole more than anything else. Yes, it's violent, but there is nothing that is gratuitous ...

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I've read some excellent reviews about TLOU2 which have pretty much guaranteed I'll never play it. It sounds relentlessly miserable and a real emotional grinder. The reviews genuinely tend to lean towards hyperbole more than anything else. Yes, it's violent, but there is nothing that is gratuitous ...

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I've read some excellent reviews about TLOU2 which have pretty much guaranteed I'll never play it. It sounds relentlessly miserable and a real emotional grinder.

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