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The PPE debate is disappearing up its own arse. Surgical gloves are not sold or stock piled in pairs because they aren't necessarily used in pairs. This is just how its done. Equally, there's a global shortage of PPE caused by a combination of extraordinary high demand and a supply collapse. The go...

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The PPE debate is disappearing up its own arse. Surgical gloves are not sold or stock piled in pairs because they aren't necessarily used in pairs. This is just how its done. Equally, there's a global shortage of PPE caused by a combination of extraordinary high demand and a supply collapse. The go...

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I like haggis wrote:Who is to know who needs PPE better than healthcare professionals in a ward full of a highly contagious virus?

Yes Consultant you say you need this facemask but your experience doesn't match up my spreadsheet says you don't actually need it.

Are you sure you've really tht this one through?

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But it's also nuts to think everybody in the NHS should be entiltled to whatever level of PPE they feel they need. yeah crazy. real heros should be charging in regardless. I am not clapping this Thursday in protest. It's the only way to hold the NHS to account for flagrant over use of PPE that's no...

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The PPE debate is disappearing up its own arse. Surgical gloves are not sold or stock piled in pairs because they aren't necessarily used in pairs. This is just how its done. Equally, there's a global shortage of PPE caused by a combination of extraordinary high demand and a supply collapse. The go...

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But it's also nuts to think everybody in the NHS should be entiltled to whatever level of PPE they feel they need. yeah crazy. real heros should be charging in regardless. I am not clapping this Thursday in protest. It's the only way to hold the NHS to account for flagrant over use of PPE that's no...

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He can't take paternity leave. The UK Govt just doesn't work well enough w/out a PM to push things through. The internal checks and balances are so nicely weighted such that most things need a PM to put the his authority into the balance (even a featherweight of it) to tip the scales towards any par...

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The PPE debate is disappearing up its own arse. Surgical gloves are not sold or stock piled in pairs because they aren't necessarily used in pairs. This is just how its done. Equally, there's a global shortage of PPE caused by a combination of extraordinary high demand and a supply collapse. The gov...

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Yes. it is. It's plausible because it has been done before. See Cambridge Analytica. You may be confident that this Government would never use social media as part of a propaganda campaign, but a lot of people are a little less gullible. See what? The bullshit that's been spun about them or what th...

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Found this a really interesting and refreshing interview. Swedish Epidemiologist, advisor to WHO etc. https://youtu.be/bfN2JWifLCY Fascinating to have some information free from the accompanying political bollocks On a website wholly funded by a pro-Brexiteer that has pro-Brexit and right-wing cont...

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So, was keeping the Cheltenham meeting open really such a good idea ? Mortality figures compiled by the Health Service Journal show that Gloucestershire hospital’s NHS trust, which covers Cheltenham, has recorded 125 deaths, roughly double that in two nearby trusts at Bristol (58 each), and those c...

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What is it with these f**king Tories trying to control the narrative through fraud. https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1252266724449230848 I guess because they got away with it in the Brexit shambles, they reckon you'll believe any old crap. I think we leave it to Brexit deranged Micks to fall for an...

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Well the Torygraph's article about NHS staff testing is pretty sobering :uhoh: Link? Knowingly giving them inaccurate tests (only 75% accurate). Someone could have been cleared for work/isolation, yet actually be infected. Ridiculous. I've defended a number of actions by the government over the cou...

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Transparency is all well and good but officials and advisers need to be able to speak without feeling like their every word is going to be in the public domain. Or twisted. It turns out political journalists are not very good at understanding science briefings and unattributable briefing is a poor ...

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Transparency is all well and good but officials and advisers need to be able to speak without feeling like their every word is going to be in the public domain. Or twisted. It turns out political journalists are not very good at understanding science briefings and unattributable briefing is a poor ...

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Let’s judge how much fun a massive recession is before we make our judgements. Btw the reason Lock down wasn’t 4 months ago was we’d just been told by the WHO human to human contact wasn’t occurring. Wow, that is genuinely moronic or another lie from Bimbobot. 4 months ago was 17 January This tweet...

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Can I just be clear that even though I will state that C69 is who he says he is this does not exclude the fact that he is a big blubbery weirdo as well. Do you know him personally, then? We live down the road from each other and have communicated outside of this place for years, including medical a...

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The entire WHO budget, of which the US is in arrears in its membership dues, is less than it costs to run a major US hospital. In the great scheme of things it really is fúck all. 4.4 billion. That's a 2 yr, biennium figure. There is a substantive problem with China and all the UN specialized agenc...

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Looking at how WHO have handled this (or mishandled), it does seem like they are highly influeneced by China but what I don't understand is how that is the case. It's not like China are the biggest contributors to WHO's budget. Both USA and UK give more money to WHO than China. The entire WHO budge...

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Ireland: Peter Clohessy Karl Mullen Tadhg Furlong Willie John McBride Paul O'Connell Neil Best Johnny O'Connor Willie Duggan That's prob the toughest pack Ireland could put out. No Phil Orr or Des Fitzgerald? No Paddy Mayne? He was the definition of lunatic hard bastard. I was going to say. Tough a...

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Boris not sure he wants to live in a world without Pussy Galore.

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Muttonbirds wrote: Can I just ask that the next time this happens, and there will be a next time, that a world body is in place for any and all local medical people to report to rather than their own governments?

You have got to be f*ckin kidding me.

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For those of you with private health insurance, you might want to make a few calls to establish what will and will not be covered. BUPA are telling their customers they will not cover anything COVID realted - even long term issues you may have down the line.

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Winnie wrote:Taken by the corona vius

Shit just got real.

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I am uncomfortable with anyone being convicted of a serious crime purely on the basis of witness credibility. It's one of the fictions of the jury system that people are good at telling truth from lies. Umpteen social science expiremnts have shown that is not true at all. I think the whole " Put 'em...

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In case anyone is still fghting the Great Herd Immunity War, this is an interesting (and well source) take on what really went on.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -abandoned

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What a narcissistic bell end.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1243284784903831554

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kiap wrote:

It looks like the cat has had a stroke.*

*I am inordinately pleased with that one.

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Mick Mannock wrote:Sturgeon is playing a dangerous game.

If Scotland deviates from the rest of the UK, a border might be in order.

Perhaps she wants to be removed, and cast herself as a martyr.

I think some traditional ceremony could be laid on at Smithfield market.

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Brilliant

https://twitter.com/SpectatorUSA/status ... 8167587840

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has the Oxford study been posted? Literally no idea what the hell to make of that.

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The goal of UK pandaemic policy was to flatten the curve to buy time for a vaccine. The end goal for C19, as with any infectous disease, is herd immunity i.e. a state where a sufficently large group have been either exposed or vaccinated that even those who haven't are protected. But tough to do th...

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BM, if you're still interested in volunteering apparently NHS Scotland is catching up and trying to get something in place. Is Jerpy going to be standing outside a hospital waving people in with a big foam hand? He’ll still be at a lock in celebrating with Salmond. As a digression: anyone fancy gue...

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Seneca of the Night wrote:Rozzer totalitarian humour: https://twitter.com/BDSixsmith/status/1 ... 27264?s=19

Came across his twitter feed the other day and pretty much knew you would follow it!

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ID2 wrote:Spain now has more deaths than China. 738 dead in 24 hours. Less attention on Spain than Italy but the seem to be in worse shape

Bet it doesn't.

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You will find a lot of big organisations who have already re-characterised their consultants will not reverse that decison despite the delay. Reversing a decision already made, where there is no change in the delivery of the services, could expose them to retrospective action from HMRC. While I agr...

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You will find a lot of big organisations who have already re-characterised their consultants will not reverse that decison despite the delay. Reversing a decision already made, where there is no change in the delivery of the services, could expose them to retrospective action from HMRC.

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I agree with this. I also agree that my only real complaint about the governments announcement yesterday is that they seem to have caved in to media and social media and started this phase too early. :thumbup: They haven't caved to anything. These measures need to start now, because as you can see ...

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You keep talking about herd immunity being the goal - it's bullshit. It was never the goal of UK policy - it doesn't even feature once in the offical Govt plan. HI would only ever have been a potential by product of the proposed strategy. Clearly it was a mistake for Vallence to even talk about it ...

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The whole UK debate arounf C19 is irritating the hell out of me. There seems to be 2 points in issue. 1. Does the Uk have the right strategy? 2. Is that strategy unravelling? Somehow the 2 points have become overlapped with alll sorts of other crap. 1. I honestly don't know if the UK has the right ...

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