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- Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:47 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
I saw you mentioned Germany further on. Germany is expecting already a new spike in infections. I don't see why testing is so important in places where the virus is already very widespread, UNLESS you have enough tests to basically test the entire population in a short period of time, with almost 1...
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Sardy have you and your men got you money from the government yet?
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:30 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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China's method which was? Place the entire population under house arrest/lockdown. Lie about your numbers and say it worked and it's over. Say you've ended the house arrest/lockdown, when it still basically exists and it's the only thing preventing a massive outbreak, but has not defeated it. Myste...
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:06 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
China's method which was? Place the entire population under house arrest/lockdown. Lie about your numbers and say it worked and it's over. Say you've ended the house arrest/lockdown, when it still basically exists and it's the only thing preventing a massive outbreak, but has not defeated it. Myste...
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:10 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Test people with what? Pint glasses? Brexit pamphlets? Are we talking UK or SA? UK should be capable of producing their own tests, Germany can do it, which means Germany's outcome is radically better than the UK's. Half a contact tracing programme isn't testing, it's paperwork and legwork, the UK i...
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:20 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
I am skeptical about the infection rates. I spoke to a medical practitioner over the week-end who phones infected people and then tracks and contacts the people they have been in contact with and it appears there is an explosion of cases in the poorer/highly populated areas of the W/Cape at the mom...
- Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:06 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Wow, looks like mud islands is in deep kak. Likely UK death toll is over 40,000 the official number only has those who died in hospital, a truer figure comes from looking at registered deaths and seeing how far above normal/average it is. The UK like other European countries is an example of how to...
- Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:12 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Prohibition and the support for prohibition from some who fully intend to keep drinking themselves (it's the other people that should stop not them), is maybe the most stupid thing to come out of this. An ANC councillor was caught drunk driving in a lockdown, more or less sums up the attitude. This ...
- Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:42 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
- Replies: 61
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Re: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
Damn, ox wagon. Are you writing a PhD? Other South Africans on here don't call me Oxbot for nothing. The 2004 to 2007 side had a defined plan, the coach was quite good at explaining it all and didn't really give a shit about sugar coating anything or what people thought of it (probably why he ended...
- Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:07 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
- Replies: 61
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Re: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
By the same logic the All Blacks were also building for the RWC and can't have been at their best either given many of our best didn't play much super rugby. Yes, the ABs were building for the RWC and it's why they rested players for half of Super Rugby or whatever it was. Also, crucially the theor...
- Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:11 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
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Re: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
Anyone that thinks the ABs easily beat that Bok side is on some other planet A good thing nobody has said that, then Weak reply, Naki. I'm covering both the posts already made I couldn't be bothered to completely read, and those yet to come that may or may not be made. Covering everything in one hit.
- Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:56 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
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Re: If NZ escape 2007 RWC QF 21-20, what happens?
Those saying the All Blacks beat the Boks twice in 2007 are correct, but then to jump from that and say they would beat them in a RWC final is a stretch. The point of a RWC season is to win the World Cup, the Boks built for the tournament that year. In the away TN match in the Bok 22 the only starti...
- Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:37 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
The lockdown just keeps getting more stupid. It's increasingly nothing at all to do with the pandemic. The President is telling us the lockdown is going to be used to transform the whole economy. We have people on this thread still saying after the lockdown ends, the lockdown must be kept, now becau...
- Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:04 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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OOI, why do you keep wanking on about winter? :lol: We've been over this one. You replied with a CNN article with the headline that temperature didn't matter, in the article it stated there was evidence that temperature did matter. Come now, move the fudge along. I was right on everything in this t...
- Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:21 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Since the lockdown, 28,000 community healthcare workers have been deployed in vulnerable communities to screen and test individuals. “Active” case findings are vital if we are to identify where the community transmission is taking place. This allows the government to intervene before community tran...
- Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:29 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Klip Kop. :lol: Dis ons Ox daai. ;) The narrative is this: If it gets into the high density areas we are f ucked. Currently, as far as we know, apart from a few cases which have been isolated, it hasn't taken hold there. Ox feels that this has nothing to do with the lockdown, but I would be relucta...
- Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:54 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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I think we need to establish some terms of reference here, because otherwise we will be discussing things at cross purposes. For example what do you mean by un-targeted vs targeted lockdowns, surely lockdown is lockdown, meaning only essential travel etc. Is going to work essential? It is if you ne...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Hardenkop. Which is what we both are, and why SA "discussions" are the way they are on here.OomPB wrote:What's the afrikaans word for knuckle head
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:56 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Because it doesn't suit your narrative? At last a decent reply. SA and NZ have both not entered winter yet, so there's a similarity there, this is probably part of why both have low numbers relative to Europe. For whatever reason SA reduced testing after the lockdown started compared to before, so ...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:38 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Kak man, my daughter lives in Korea, she lost half her salary because of their lock down on teaching change to on line. Go post your faxes on mud island thread. They are dieing like flies at this moment They haven't done a lockdown. They have national recommendations. You seem out of your depth reg...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:24 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Your citizenship application was unsuccessful, doesn't sound good. For clarity on this. I only have an SA passport and am Southern African multiple generations deep. So that's me. This is you: I have a British passport :? https://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82512&p=5201240 So what the...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:58 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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You want all the countries to come out of lock down and follow the South Korean model. You've made your point, repeatedly. Maybe it's time for you to go on the main covid19 thread and inform your fellow Brits of your wise plan. You're the one with the Pomgolian passport. Not me. Coming out of lockd...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:27 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Hey knucklehead, South Korea did have a lock down, they still have it. No, they didn't have a lockdown. They have recommendations. Certainty not the military murdering random people in their own homes and beating people for sitting in their own (totally walled off) yards, showing no signs of stoppi...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:26 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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You are supporting the SA lockdown, when you would not tolerate your military murdering NZ citizens for having a beer in their own home. And you call me a knucklehead? South Korea and Taiwan didn't have a lockdown, I don't give a fudge about NZ. The Strayan military aren’t planning to cross the Tas...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:18 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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The only "evidence" lockdowns even work comes from an authoritarian dictatorship that lies about everything. All the countries doing best had no lockdown. You can array the numbers of multiple countries that all chose different policies, and detect very little difference between them all. The diffe...
- Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:12 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
The only "evidence" lockdowns even work comes from an authoritarian dictatorship that lies about everything. All the countries doing best had no lockdown. You can array the numbers of multiple countries that all chose different policies, and detect very little difference between them all. The differ...
- Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:30 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Still worried about passive transmission on surfaces though...door handles, lift buttons, credit card machines, cash... The masks are a great start, but cutting down passive transmission is going to be really challenging. SA has a big brewing and ethanol industry, so it's only a problem of applying...
- Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:49 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Zweli Mkhize has said everyone should be wearing a mask, and those unable to get one need to make one using three layers of material. So that's something workable from the ANC everyone can do for the entire length of the pandemic, and shows some out of the box thinking. That needs to be pushed hard,...
- Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:24 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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maybe the government should extend the ban on booze past the lock-down I reckon you were joking. But prohibition doesn't end crime and violence, that article shows the dangers of doctors running public policy, something they're unqualified for (in fact their training makes them worse at it). It's n...
- Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:05 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Our Police hands were cut off way too long. If donder en bliksem are needed to get order, so be it. I see. Do you also support ANC plans to "de-populate" informal settlements by removing those people to other locations? With no indication of where the money will come from for this, and so every lik...
- Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:05 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Our Police hands were cut off way too long. If donder en bliksem are needed to get order, so be it. I see. Do you also support ANC plans to "de-populate" informal settlements by removing those people to other locations? With no indication of where the money will come from for this, and so every lik...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Sweden's decision to leave it to it's citizens to behave responsibly would have even less effect here than it is having there. Being patient with people and explaining over and over again, what needs to be done, whilst providing them with actions they can actually undertake. Is the only option. It'...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:18 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
- Replies: 2457
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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
Sweden's decision to leave it to it's citizens to behave responsibly would have even less effect here than it is having there. Being patient with people and explaining over and over again, what needs to be done, whilst providing them with actions they can actually undertake. Is the only option. It'...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:23 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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bok_viking wrote:Congratulations on winning a threat that is not about winning. With there being no straight correct answer. Like I said hail the genius
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:20 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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You are the one that cannot see any viewpoint but your own. You have no started resorting to name calling calling me a communist, etc. Well played sir, you are a genius. :roll: I was trying to bring this to a civilized conclusion, but you have to continue with your bullshit. No one is going to feel...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:11 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Of course!Rinkals wrote:Sorry, Ox: that's just silly.
Saying "I've won the thread" is just childish.
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:10 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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You're getting awfully defencive, Bok Chan. Ronald Reagan's maxim "whoever is explaining is losing" is appropriate I feel, maybe write it into your little red book so you can remember it for later.
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:02 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Ah, so you're the cadre that counts China's virus cases?bok_viking wrote:I might have deleted something by accident as there was a few times where i started typing in between your quotes and then just cut out what i typed and pasted it again in a different place. So if I removed some things it was by accident
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:50 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Stop replying now please Bok Chan, I have won the thread. You've got nothing. Thanks in advance.bok_viking wrote:You are saying the same bullshit over and over as well. Pot calling the kettle black, accusing me of something but doing the same thing.
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:49 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress
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Bok Chan logs in and logs out, he has no reply, eerie silence descends onto the thread. Ox having weathered a constant barrage from multiple posters over two days surveys the landscape, he stands alone.