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by ovalball
Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

So, it doesn't breach the Nuremberg code (even though the Nuremberg code was never intended to cover a situation like this). My Mum is in a Care Home - I think it is outrageous that people, who have refused to take the vaccine, are allowed to work with the residents - putting all them at greater ris...
by ovalball
Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

It's a sensible requirement. No jab, no job within aged care homes. It is not sensible to breach the Nuremberg Code. Why restrict compulsory vaccination to care home staff? Make it compulsory for everyone in that case. No exceptions. In what way would it breach the Nuremberg code ? It is an experim...
by ovalball
Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:35 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Please not be true https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1374112123740172291 It's a sensible requirement. No jab, no job within aged care homes. It is not sensible to breach the Nuremberg Code. Why restrict compulsory vaccination to care home staff? Make it compulsory for everyone in that case. No e...
by ovalball
Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Please not be true https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1374112123740172291 It's a sensible requirement. No jab, no job within aged care homes. It is not sensible to breach the Nuremberg Code. Why restrict compulsory vaccination to care home staff? Make it compulsory for everyone in that case. No e...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:20 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://twitter.com/DaveKeating/status/1374059499988877313 The UK can put up with the a blockade of AZ but a block on Pfizer (a company complying with its obligations to the UK) would be an act of pure spite and tantamount to a declaration of war. Condemning UK nationals to die in a fit of jealousl...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Anyway - I don't think the EU will impose an export ban on vaccines. There's too many countries that are against it - and, with global supply chains, such a ban could become counter productive, as well as extremely poor publicity for the EU. Attempts to 'bully' non members will not go down well. I d...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

The fact you think you're capable of being objective on this matter is cute. Two separate legal threats both just a lot of hot air. Thems the facts As I've said before taking AZ to court will not fix anything in the short term as the case drags on and on. The EU probably will take them to court at ...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

This was recent talk and the EU are still talking about AZ not honouring their contract. EU playing their public like a fiddle The fact you think you're capable of being objective on this matter is cute. Two separate legal threats both just a lot of hot air. Thems the facts As I've said before taki...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

It was mentioned by a source I trust (Luke O'Neill, who is very well informed) so fairly sure. Looks like he was wrong. All the talk of legal actions died when Vdl published the contract and everyone realised they had no case. This was recent talk and the EU are still talking about AZ not honouring...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

France are. Is Are you sure? It was mentioned by a source I trust (Luke O'Neill, who is very well informed) so fairly sure. Looks like he was wrong. All the talk of legal actions died when Vdl published the contract and everyone realised they had no case. This was recent talk and the EU are still t...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

I'm not going to get into an analysis of the contract, that's up to the courts, but just to be clear, a quick glance at that link mentions 'UK stock'. Now either countries do have claim to stock manufactured by a private company in their country or they don't. It can't be both depending on where yo...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Actually the EU are meant to be getting our vaccines from the UK and EU. Should be irrelevant. They ordered them from a company, not a country. As an aside, it shouldn’t be forgotten that Oxford Uni still own the IPR and have given royalty free licences to others to produce vaccines. I’d assume tha...
by ovalball
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:46 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Well they got the costing more bit right. The cost was irrelevant to the UK. To the EU it was an important factor. Which is why we vaccinated almost a million people over the last few days. You guys, not so much. I suspect, had it been left to the EU, that the AZ vaccine would not have been as low ...
by ovalball
Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 89120
Views: 4697173

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

Since 2003. Record without EJ; vs Ireland = 43% win rate vs Wales = 50% vs Scotland = 77% vs France = 50% Record with EJ; vs Ireland = 62% vs Wales = 70% vs Scotland = 50% vs France = 57% Not saying he doesn't deserve seriously looking at after this awful campaign, but be careful what you wish for....
by ovalball
Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: England win over France (*)
Replies: 6
Views: 743

Re: England win over France (*)

Now that the French have proven against the Welsh that, after had some training and game time together, they can last 80min, do we all agree that the England win over France is the biggest asterisk of the tournament, and that England should really have ended these 6N with only 1 win over Italy? Edd...
by ovalball
Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Gouge someones eyes...blame it on the opposition
Replies: 42
Views: 2944

Re: Gouge someones eyes...blame it on the opposition

He's both right and wrong. Putting your hands near someones eyes like that is unforgivable and he'll deserve whatever sanction he gets. But at the same time, Wales know exactly what they're doing, winding up their opponents to the point of lashing out in frustration with their cynical, illegal, ant...
by ovalball
Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://www.politico.eu/article/von-der-leyen-threatens-astrazeneca-with-vaccine-export-ban/ If this comes to pass you can tell what will happen a mile away 1. EU Blocks Exports, Remainers "the EU is behaving reasonably, the UK is evil" 2. UK blocks Exports of Raw Materials (to make the vaccine) Re...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:46 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 89120
Views: 4697173

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

Apart from Curry and Itoje, I actually hate this team. Eddie, with the continued selection of Saracens, must be thinking 'the devil you know' rather than picking new players and getting them to learn the ways of this team. You can tell its a real team - the players know eachother and the drills so ...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 89120
Views: 4697173

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

Ovals, I missed the first 20 minutes of the Scotland match but they looked even worse then from what I saw. Not much in it though. Eddie has some serious decisions to make, and lets face it he aint gonna resign or be sacked yet. Daly can f*ck off, as can Youngs. The midfield isn't working with his ...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

I was up for france but hard luck wales you guys deserved that much the better team for 65 minutes. Roberts and warburton class acts on the bbc. Praising luke pearce (did well with a very ill disciplined 30 players) Congrats though you will still win the championship :thumbup: It would be the Frenc...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

P in VG wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:06 pm So France need to beat Scotland by BP 20+ points to win?
Don't need 20+ - just 14, I think.

SHould be a cracker - France will definitely give it a lash - and I wouldn't put it beyond them.

Edit - no, you're correct - I was looking at Ireland's PD - France need to win by 20+
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

franch fan wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:00 pm
Derwyn wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:59 pm Cheating ref.
Sorry?
Poor old Derwyn
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

I reckon that's it.

Wales have a habit of winning Grand Slams - this will be another one. They've done what they needed to. Totally outplayed France today.

France, perhaps, not as good as people thought - as shown by them losing to England.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wales good fortune holding up.

Deserve to be ahead though.

Can't see France getting back into this.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

France need to be in front going into the last 20 - so if Wales come out strong second half we could have this in the bag Yup. Only seeing a Welsh win from this. Yep - I reckon it's theirs to lose now - just need to keep doing what they've been doing - they'll wear France down and gut them in the l...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

Wales getting on top now - playing well. France a bit frantic.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

Brilliant continuity from Wales - excellent try.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread
Replies: 851
Views: 21716

Re: France 🇫🇷 Vs Cymru 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 6 Nations Thread

That was a class try.

Poor exit strategy from Wales.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: David v Goliath: Ireland v England, KO 16:45, Sat Mar 20th
Replies: 1045
Views: 22276

Re: David v Goliath: Ireland v England, KO 16:45, Sat Mar 20th

Well done Ireland - better side in all areas. Embarrassing from England - scored twice while Ireland were men down to 14 and 13 - and still got hammered on the scoreboard. Perhaps if you'd been down to 13 men for the whole match, we could have given you a competitive game - just about. :blush: To ge...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Ollie Lawrence
Replies: 11
Views: 737

Re: Ollie Lawrence

Crash_12 wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:06 pm Worst 13 England have ever fielded?
Erinle ? Close call though.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 89120
Views: 4697173

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

That was, without doubt, the most clueless, uninspired and depressing performance I've seen from England in any 6N match. WTF happened between last Sat and this Sat that they could come out and look so completely hopeless. Mako was shockingly poor but others weren't much better. Ford had his worst g...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Frodder wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:29 pm Over 711k jabs today. Now that's some number
Great stuff - hope there's plenty of 2nd doses in there.
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://www.politico.eu/article/von-der-leyen-threatens-astrazeneca-with-vaccine-export-ban/ If this comes to pass you can tell what will happen a mile away 1. EU Blocks Exports, Remainers "the EU is behaving reasonably, the UK is evil" 2. UK blocks Exports of Raw Materials (to make the vaccine) Re...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://www.politico.eu/article/von-der-leyen-threatens-astrazeneca-with-vaccine-export-ban/ If this comes to pass you can tell what will happen a mile away 1. EU Blocks Exports, Remainers "the EU is behaving reasonably, the UK is evil" 2. UK blocks Exports of Raw Materials (to make the vaccine) Re...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

So, reporting deaths. Here's how Russia do it; https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1632/idt2/idt2/8bf131c3-5d28-4c2b-b312-0da7baa2bf14/image/816 "If Russia stops at 500,000 excess deaths, that will be a good scenario," the now freelance demographer argues. He calculates that the current toll is pushing 45...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Mick Mannock wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:27 pm Where is the ignore button now?

There are a few I would happy apply.
You have to go to your profile, edit profile, foes and friends, add foes. Foes are then on ignore
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: David v Goliath: Ireland v England, KO 16:45, Sat Mar 20th
Replies: 1045
Views: 22276

Re: David v Goliath: Ireland v England, KO 16:45, Sat Mar 20th

Ireland 23 winners Britain 5 winners Can they come back from such abject humiliation? I doubt that the vast majority of Brits would have a clue what you were referring to ! It is remarkable though, how the Irish Horses now dominate the Cheltenham NH Festival. When I was regularly attending, the Iri...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Adios Manolito
Replies: 13
Views: 799

Re: Adios Manolito

Remember "Champion the Wonder Horse"? I still remember the theme tune. I'd forgotten that one - but yes, I can as well. Suprisingly there were only 26 episodes 1955-56 - I would have guessed at more - must have been repeated a fair bit as I wouldn't have remembered it from 55/56. The lad that playe...
by ovalball
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37772
Views: 1123564

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Well it’s ‘shit or bust’ isn’t it? The vunerable are now Vaccinated so covid will have to do it’s thing. The country will open up whatever happens going forwards. Since schools have re-opened, 2 weeks ago, the UK have increased testing up to around 1.4 million a day (almost a 3fold increase). Posit...