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forrester

It's a bit crap that he feels he's got to do it for his mental health but at least it forces the England management to come up with a plan that doesn't involve him. Suspect that might be George Ford though. I haven't watched any Prem rugby this season - anyone sticking their hand up? Ford is absolu...

forrester

Admitted it and apologised. 3 weeks reduced to 2 after tackle school. Fair enough.

forrester

That was a depressing drive home.

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Because it's not true. And besides, the losses aren't really a problem if the club sponsors and owners are getting what they perceive as good value in reflected glory and vicarious enjoyment. That is what professional sports club ownership is really all about. So as long as a wealthy owner gets his...

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Pointless quoting half a sentence. Because it's not true. And besides, the losses aren't really a problem if the club sponsors and owners are getting what they perceive as good value in reflected glory and vicarious enjoyment. That is what professional sports club ownership is really all about. So ...

forrester

Pointless quoting half a sentence.

forrester

Yes. That's correct. But despite what RL fans think, RU clubs started paying players in 1995. That changed things. Apart from Bath, they started in the late 80’s. This really is about survival though. Losing the likes of Wasps is a tragedy, regardless of the bad management decisions they made, they...

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Believe it or not some of these clubs are 150 years old, the game didn’t start in 1995. Yes. That's correct. But despite what RL fans think, RU clubs started paying players in 1995. That changed things. Apart from Bath, they started in the late 80’s. This really is about survival though. Losing the...

forrester

Believe it or not some of these clubs are 150 years old, the game didn’t start in 1995.

forrester

I don't know. What is Jamie George's wife's mother's maiden name? That just as relevant a question in the grand scheme of things. It really isn’t. Saracens are the biggest spenders in the league with a squad full of world stars and on the pitch are as close to a premium product as you’ll get.Their ...

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The government money is a separate issue but it will never be paid back if the commercial returns from rugby just keep diminishing. You seem to think rich owners will still want to support Premiership rugby when it's at a standard at or lower than the Championship is now. They won't. And nobody wil...

forrester

Did you read what I wrote? Yes, it was bolllocks. You seem to think all I've written is we need "...another 7 or 8 wealthy individuals with cash to burn to come along and it’ll all be fine?". So your haven't read what I wrote. That's fine. Carry on. “The English model needs 10-14 men who are worth ...

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Their share of blame for what? Literally underwriting English professional rugby for 25 years? And by extension, underwriting much of Pacific Island rugby as well? The RFU and World Rugby should be on their hands and knees begging the owners to stay but instead they still want them out. That's the ...

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It'll go on if there is an incentive for rich men to invest in rugby. By the way, without professional jobs that pay decent money (or the potential to earn it) is what attracts young talent to stay in the game. With a small capped pot, the well runs dry eventually. So your solution is for another 7...

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I don’t argue that the RFU have made a mess of things but the clubs have to take their share of the blame. They are all losing huge amounts of money, while still owing the government millions and are pushing to be able spend even more, it’s beyond madness. Their share of blame for what? Literally u...

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Living within their means simply won't produce a league of any quality and I doubt any investor would be interested in it anyway so you'd still have clubs going bust like Jersey did. For the Premiership to work it needs to have premium value. But clubs are going bust now so the status quo is no goo...

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I don’t argue that the RFU have made a mess of things but the clubs have to take their share of the blame. They are all losing huge amounts of money, while still owing the government millions and are pushing to be able spend even more, it’s beyond madness.

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The guy at Irish just had enough. No stadium, no income. He was just propping up a brand. And he simply wasnt rich enough. The English model needs 10-14 men who are worth at least £500m each to wave their wallets at each other. Which is pure fantasy. The clubs must live within their means or more w...

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That worked out well for Wasps, Worcester and Irish. The guy at Irish just had enough. No stadium, no income. He was just propping up a brand. And he simply wasnt rich enough. The English model needs 10-14 men who are worth at least £500m each to wave their wallets at each other. Which is pure fant...

forrester

That worked out well for Wasps, Worcester and Irish.

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Like I said, what’s the alternative? The clubs are spending money they just don’t have. Rugby is and always will be a minority sport in this country, the audience just isn’t there. A hugely successful (a lot of it illegal I know) club like Sarries with their galaxy of stars still can’t draw decent c...

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Pollard is costing them more than £600k a year . Their 2022 turnover was about £20m - I haven't seen this year's numbers, but I'm assuming roughly the same. 3% of the club's entire turnover is going into one player's pocket. That's before they think about paying any of the other 40-odd players. Or ...

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Is he better than Ben Spencer? That should be the threshold for all England 9s. Pick him Borthwick, you moron. Will be 35 by the next world cup. Its over. Might as well work on the crop of young 9s. Screw the next world cup, just pick the best players now. Correct. By all means develop the next cro...

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Plastic Sarrie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:16 pm Gloucester in the red zone are just tragic.

To be fair, we had 1 of our starting 15 playing, we selected 2 but VRR dropped out before kick off. That was basically a prem cup squad.

forrester

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... le-exeter/

While you’re on the subject.

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Not getting involved with this argument, but that was Fasogbon just after he turned 16. This was him on the left just after his 18th https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdP1KUQX0AEmyqA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 He walked past me at Kingsholm a few weeks ago. He is absolutely massive. Just needs some game t...

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DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:56 pm Ruskin and Balmain were probably the best scrummaging props last season. A bit left field.

Not left field at all. Our season imploded as soon as we lost Balmain to injury.

forrester

The decision was blatant enough for the AB backroom staff to lodge a formal complaint & it still goes against the World Rugby's wishes. In this case it certainly isn't sour grapes but this guy drove coaches & players mad with frustration every time he tried to take centre stage. My question to you,...

forrester

I’m less concerned with the backs, we have some decent players. We just need to devise a game plan that doesn’t give everyone neck ache and maybe threatens to score a try every now and again. TH is absolutely the biggest worry. Stuart was a proper penalty magnet in the summer, presumably why he did...

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fatcat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:19 pm If you want a TH who can scrummage then Will Collier is better than most and maybe all of the others.

Might not be a bad shout as a stop gap.

forrester

Of all the postions - THP is easily the biggest worry for England. 12 and another big burly lock sure - but really with right coaching and dev I think we have a lot of depth in most positions. Bringing back an "A" team to play 2nd tier nations would really help. I’m less concerned with the backs, w...

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Earl is great at picking up from the base of a scrum and making yards, would be a shame to lose that. I can't keep up with rugby's law changes but is it legal for a flanker to pick up from 7? So is Willis but you could swap them around depending on the situation. Sarries do it with Billy and Earl a...

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Curry Willis Earl has decent balance to it.

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So, what’s our current pecking order now RWC has ended and certain retirements? Props ? Hooker - George and Dan. Locks - Itoje, Martin Backrow - Earl curry underhill ludlam Sh - van portvliet, Mitchell Fh - Farrel, daylight, smith , daylight, Ford ? Centres ? Wing ? Fb - steward , everyone else in ...

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So, what’s our current pecking order now RWC has ended and certain retirements? Props ? Hooker - George and Dan. Locks - Itoje, Martin Backrow - Earl curry underhill ludlam Sh - van portvliet, Mitchell Fh - Farrel, daylight, smith , daylight, Ford ? Centres ? Wing ? Fb - steward , everyone else in ...

forrester

A real shame but no real surprise sadly.

forrester

NZ coped with the bomb squad fairly comfortably in the scrum last night. Just goes to show how poor Genge and Sinkler were.

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Whatever the result, fair play to the All Blacks. Thought they’d get beaten comfortably when Cane went off.

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Akkerman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:37 pm kwagga

Such a good player

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Talea is a proper player

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