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by Waratah
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

If all he's saying is he's going to look at what transpires and possibly mount a legal challenge to certain events that might not be too bad. For instance China might hack any number of voting machines leaving him with a good grounds to contest certain results, of course he could have spent some ti...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Meantime, The Trump campaign is the grift that keeps on grifting. In two days alone during March, the president’s reelection effort forked over roughly $380,000 of its contributors’ money to his hotels for “facility rental/catering services. [...] The campaign has also been paying more than $37,000...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Meantime, The Trump campaign is the grift that keeps on grifting. In two days alone during March, the president’s reelection effort forked over roughly $380,000 of its contributors’ money to his hotels for “facility rental/catering services. [...] The campaign has also been paying more than $37,000 ...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Have we done this yet?

Fun times in Portland, Oregon. Unidentified paramilitary police in camo gear dragging protestors off the streets and into unmarked cars without probable cause or giving reasons for detaining citizens.

Totally normal.
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Brumbies v Tahs - Saturday
Replies: 90
Views: 3490

Re: Brumbies v Tahs - Saturday

Hard to understand the Tahs strategy of going wide from side to side from 1st phase almost every time. Using full-width of the field is apparently a thing. Turinui talking on it here (against the Tahs) ... excuse the ads: https://youtu.be/5iQerYU2aZI?t=750 It wasn't a very good thing tonight. I lik...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Santa wrote:I suppose it depends on whether you think these things are matters if fact or of judgement. If you think the former then no discussion is possible. :thumbup:
I might disagree with Hermes but at least he argues in good faith.
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Brumbies v Tahs - Saturday
Replies: 90
Views: 3490

Re: Brumbies v Tahs - Saturday

I was out there tonight. Good first half, rubbish second half. Hard to understand the Tahs strategy of going wide from side to side from 1st phase almost every time. Virtually no effort to hit it up through the pigs and do some hard yards. Very strange. Biggest plaudits of the night go to the announ...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Trying to draw those parallels between Trump's behaviour and the actions of others is just more desperate floundering. It doesn't excuse Trump, or those willing to support him I honestly give up. A valiant effort, HT. In fact we had these same discussions just after Trump was elected and throughout...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Normally, your point about politics being shades of grey rather than black or white would be quite valid, but Trump has polarised it to the point where it's moved from analog to stark binary. Precisely. There's nothing nuanced about Trump's character or his politics: his unprecedented corruption, h...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:34 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I have no doubt that the memes, messages, false analogies and facile propaganda serves in no small way, to reinforce prejudices and solidify support for right wing causes. It might well be the same for left wing contributors, but, on my feed at least, they seem under represented and disinclined to ...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Actually, on my previous post. I think the aftermath of the next election will give us a good idea of where things might end up. If the losing side, whoever they are, take it on the chin and retire with dignity to lick their wounds and await the next election , it'll be a big positive. If they don'...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:30 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I'm sure Putin would like to think so. But I doubt it had that much effect. The swing voters who decide elections tend to be less dogmatic than the rest of us. They're not welded to a party or an ideology like most others. And the examples I've seen of troll farm efforts are just too low-res to get...
by Waratah
Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Normally, your point about politics being shades of grey rather than black or white would be quite valid, but Trump has polarised it to the point where it's moved from analog to stark binary. Precisely. There's nothing nuanced about Trump's character or his politics: his unprecedented corruption, h...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

G'day Fangle. So basically half the Americans then. That is a broad brush. But it's not half the Americans. 63M voted for Trump out of 245M Americans of voting age . That's one quarter. I wish I was so sure of things and so self-righteous. It must be wonderful to feel so perfectly moral. I try to b...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I'm really fascinated to understand why Trump is still in the running. His approval rating should be in single figures, seriously. I was castigated by Hermes a page or two ago for suggesting that it may be the product of conditioning wrought through daily confirmations of allegiance at schools and ...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Argue with this, Bimbo.
Spoiler: show
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by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

2016 was far from a typical election and 2020 even less so. This time around we're talking about the re-election of a president who has been impeached, who has badly mismanaged a pandemic, and broken every law of campaign orthodoxy, all of it after the primaries, the enthusiasm for which is suppose...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Have we discussed how inept Betsy de Vos is? I have never seen an interview or congressional hearing where she doesn't come out of it seeming completely out of her depth. It's an interesting move to appoint an education secretary so adamantly opposed to education if also a failing move, leaving the...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

2016 was far from a typical election and 2020 even less so. This time around we're talking about the re-election of a president who has been impeached, who has badly mismanaged a pandemic, and broken every law of campaign orthodoxy, all of it after the primaries, the enthusiasm for which is suppose...
by Waratah
Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

G'day Fangle. So basically half the Americans then. That is a broad brush. But it's not half the Americans. 63M voted for Trump out of 245M Americans of voting age . That's one quarter. I wish I was so sure of things and so self-righteous. It must be wonderful to feel so perfectly moral. I try to be...
by Waratah
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

In any case it is by no means clear that a vote for Biden will result in improved, or even less bad race relations in the US. Under Biden one could imagine even more strident demands from minority groups, even more strident resistance from white groups, and worsening race relations. That is not a c...
by Waratah
Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

It's unlikely he'll lose. Helmut Norpoth's Primary Model has successfully called 24 out of the last 26 elections. He turned up in an unheralded Fox Business segment a few weeks back and announced the model predicted a 91% chance of Trump's re-election. It's a simple but ingenious methodology that m...
by Waratah
Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

If you've not done so, read Sarah Kendizor's ' Hiding In Plain Sight '. I've a wall in my apartment devoted to non-fiction, am politically well versed Does your apartment smell of rich mahogany? No. More like poor mahogany. In fact more like IKEA. The full particle board IKEA “Billy” bookshelf expe...
by Waratah
Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Mr Mike wrote:
Waratah wrote:If you've not done so, read Sarah Kendizor's 'Hiding In Plain Sight'. I've a wall in my apartment devoted to non-fiction, am politically well versed
Does your apartment smell of rich mahogany?
No. More like poor mahogany. In fact more like IKEA.
by Waratah
Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

If you've not done so, read Sarah Kendizor's ' Hiding In Plain Sight '. I've a wall in my apartment devoted to non-fiction, am politically well versed, but even while only halfway through Kendizor's book it is possibly the most revelatory book I've read. Kendizor is extremely well-qualified and the ...
by Waratah
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: End of PR days..make your confessions. Absolution assured!
Replies: 166
Views: 9987

Re: End of PR days..make your confessions. Absolution assure

This is because I have a public persona (and no, I’m not NFJ) that would mean I would be in deep shit if the (admittedly Australia-only) ‘world’ knew who I was. With the 11th hour approaching, I wanted to get that off my chest, if for no other reason, than to explain why I never went to a cabal. Gu...
by Waratah
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:17 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: End of PR days..make your confessions. Absolution assured!
Replies: 166
Views: 9987

Re: End of PR days..make your confessions. Absolution assure

I'm not really Peter FitzSimons.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Well if you enjoy the agony in the garden bollocks about a cartoon character, fair enough. Did you really just compare this to the tribulations of Christ? Not me. You don't know where 'the agony in the garden' comes from? Did you not see the wall of text, black and white, "this is a learning moment...
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Floppykid wrote:
Waratah wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Well if you enjoy the agony in the garden bollocks about a cartoon character, fair enough.
Did you really just compare this to the tribulations of Christ?
Not me.
You don't know where 'the agony in the garden' comes from?
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Glaston wrote:And another

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53178088

"Unilever will rename Fair & Lovely, a skin-lightening cream which has been criticised for promoting negative stereotypes around dark skin tones.
At least Agent Orange's reputation is safe.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

shanky wrote:I think/sense that Kamala is damaged goods. She oh-so-ever bought into the frenzy and I think that leaves her open to a Fox attack strategy
At the risk of being nice, this is probably true. I think she'd make a better AG than VP.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

shanky wrote:PS: stop being being ‘nice’ to me

It makes us both uncomfortable :lol: :lol:
You started it.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Once Trump is beaten, however, there is a job to be done. And I still think that when it comes to repairing international relations and trying to implement the domestic policies to dig the US out of what will be a significant social and economic downturn, Biden is not the man for the job. Trump's a...
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I think Nikki Haley has her own track record to point to. She’s smart and tough. And wise enough to put some air between her and Trumpy A genuine contender in her own right at some point. Tactically, might be smart to come in as a VP candidate in 2024. I can’t see her ever going Dem...unless we see...
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Floppykid wrote:Well if you enjoy the agony in the garden bollocks about a cartoon character, fair enough.
Did you really just compare this to the tribulations of Christ?
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Floppykid wrote:The solemnity around it all is nauseating.
Just change the actor and be done with it, the pained introspection and feigned agony about it all is dumb.
Solemn; Adjective. Formal and dignified. Characterised by deep sincerity.

Yeah I can see why you'd find that nauseating.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290558

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

It's reaching absurd proportions now. Jenny Slate, who is Jewish, now stepping down from voicing a character in a cartoon who is half-Jewish, half-black after some pressure . Guess that will rule out anyone who isn't biracial from playing Obama in the future and I guess should cancel Hamilton while...
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Just quietly I reckon $50 on Harris being the first female U.S President is a good bet. You can get 12-1 at the moment. Nikki Haley at 33-1 in 2024 is worth a tenner as well.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Rinkals wrote:Anyone who had the dynamism to implement the sort of repair programme that you suggest is needed would scare the shit out of the electorate.
:thumbup: Perfectly put.
by Waratah
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9065553

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Yeah, I'm aware people said - in hope rather than expectation - much the same about Trump. But it's quite obvious that Biden does not need to be the one in control of everything. He spent 8 years as a VP! Trump wouldn't spend 8 minutes in anyone else's shadow. I would say that Biden's harmlessness ...