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by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

What's worse? Swing Low sung by the rugby fans or 12 German bombers sung by the football fans. Singing a song knowingly offending some but believing it to be a minority or singing a song with the intention of offending a lot of people. Good question No one's looking to offend anyone when they sing ...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

I don't why they sung it to Chris Oti or even if they did; nor do you (JM2K). If they did, I would imagine it was in appreciation of him. Why do you think they did? It seems extremely random. I can't think of many reasons why a predominantly white group of people would sing a slave song to a black ...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

What's worse? Swing Low sung by the rugby fans or 12 German bombers sung by the football fans. Singing a song knowingly offending some but believing it to be a minority or singing a song with the intention of offending a lot of people. Good question No one's looking to offend anyone when they sing ...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

There's some impressive hysterics on this thread, that's for sure.
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

It is a bit weird we all sing a slave hymnal originally sung at England matches to serenade a black England player :uhoh: especially given how overwhelmingly white and middle/upper class the rugby fraternity is in this country It would be good to have some proper discussion on it but judging from t...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

It is a bit weird we all sing a slave hymnal originally sung at England matches to serenade a black England player :uhoh: especially given how overwhelmingly white and middle/upper class the rugby fraternity is in this country It would be good to have some proper discussion on it but judging from t...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Swing Low goooonnnneee?
Replies: 256
Views: 21299

Re: Swing Low goooonnnneee?

It is a bit weird we all sing a slave hymnal originally sung at England matches to serenade a black England player :uhoh: especially given how overwhelmingly white and middle/upper class the rugby fraternity is in this country It would be good to have some proper discussion on it but judging from th...
by JM2K6
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Bored Legends /Hall of Fame
Replies: 266
Views: 28815

Re: Bored Legends /Hall of Fame

I miss Slider, who was an ever-present for many years of cabals. I also miss his cardigans.
by JM2K6
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 112723
Views: 7625121

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

It's a bit bantz-y but Mike Brown interviewing Sinckler is actually a decent read. Bolded some interesting bits As he makes move to Bristol, Sinckler's most revealing interview yet On Monday morning, Kyle Sinckler picked up the keys for his new home in Bristol. The England prop bid farewell to his H...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 9918
Views: 839969

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

PCPhil wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:Uber

No mask no ride
Not the first time you’ve heard that, no?
v good
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.
Replies: 126
Views: 16110

Re: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.

Perhaps he had an epiphany and realised that a decade of race baiting posts weren't a good look :lol: don’t change, you nasty bitter twat I've had the displeasure of having to apologise to people in real life thanks to his ranting about the Jewish Conspiracy being overheard, so, I don't think I'm t...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.
Replies: 126
Views: 16110

Re: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.

Perhaps he had an epiphany and realised that a decade of race baiting posts weren't a good look :lol: don’t change, you nasty bitter twat I've had the displeasure of having to apologise to people in real life thanks to his ranting about the Jewish Conspiracy being overheard, so, I don't think I'm t...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

Well, you asked if it was right that JKR received criticism for defending Forstator (then ignored the reply and any of the further information about that case), and then out of the blue attacked Murray instead of, you know, maybe spending a second working out whether Forstator was a "piece of work" ...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Recommend me a sports autobiography/biography
Replies: 49
Views: 5510

Re: Recommend me a sports autobiography/biography

John Daniel's Confessions of a Rugby mercenary and The secret life of Tony Cascarino (written with Paul Kimmage) They're not hot off the press but if not already read, Daniel's Kiwi meets French club rugby was compelling and Cascarino's especially well written and brutally honest. They're both "eas...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

My wife just gave me the rundown on the person Maya Forstator 'misgendered'. Fúck me, what a piece of work. https://newrepublic.com/article/156104/biology-becomes-cover-anti-trans-bigotry Ah, it's the trans person that's the problem here. Not the woman who: - wrote 150 transphobic tweets in the spa...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

My wife just gave me the rundown on the person Maya Forstator 'misgendered'. Fúck me, what a piece of work. https://newrepublic.com/article/156104/biology-becomes-cover-anti-trans-bigotry Ah, it's the trans person that's the problem here. Not the woman who: - wrote 150 transphobic tweets in the spa...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.
Replies: 126
Views: 16110

Re: Senaca falls out of plane, possible gone.

Perhaps he had an epiphany and realised that a decade of race baiting posts weren't a good look
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

Maybe have a think about why that is.
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

Please stop with the “genuine trans people” stuff, especially if you’re not willing to listen to them and their criticisms of Rowling’s schtick. People pretending to be trans is not this giant problem. Women’s safety is vastly more at risk from men being men. Men “pretending to be trans” in order to...
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

CM11 wrote:I don't think I can take you on as well, JMK! I'll try to respond to your points in a little bit.
To be clear there’s no danger of a big back and forth here. This thread is essentially a lost cause and there’s no way I can keep emotion out of it.
by JM2K6
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68785

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

You're the one bringing up reductionist arguments, CM11. Waging a war based on "biology is biology" is reductionist. Saying trans women want lesbians to have sex with "a person who has a penis" is reductionist. You're doing this, right here, right now, what's being done all over the online sphere w...
by JM2K6
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread
Replies: 112723
Views: 7625121

Re: **OFFICIAL** English Rugby Thread

Interesting. Our lineout's been a real weakness for ages. Flannery's an odd guy in interviews.
by JM2K6
Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Wibble Rugby explains what Jones did to NZ
Replies: 24
Views: 4237

Re: Wibble Rugby explains what Jones did to NZ

Sorry if RR and/or if no longer of interest: https://rugbyonslaught.com/a-rugby-fan-has-brilliantly-worked-out-how-england-dismantled-new-zealand-at-the-2019-rugby-world-cup/ Good video, thanks. He also doesn't shy away from the fact that this was the product of years of work intended to beat NZ at...
by JM2K6
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast
Replies: 68
Views: 10236

Re: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast

I’m not much into conspiracy theories, but I do wonder if Burgess got some sort of reassurances from someone in the England setup that he would make the RWC team before making the transfer - the way his season went (started the season late because of injury, improved but didn’t really look ready fo...
by JM2K6
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

If it's undeniable then measure it yourself. Anyway - I'm okay with this as long as your referees start applying the red card laws correctly. Making more of an effort to correctly sanction foul play, particularly head-shots, will soften the blow of lessening the on-field punishment for serious offe...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

Regardless of how interesting you find the contest (ruined contest or fine contest being opinions that are impossible to prove or disprove) its undeniable that 14 men for a significant amount of time will have a large measurable affect on a teams likely success %. While it may be or not be hyperbol...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Reducing subs: a scientist's view
Replies: 33
Views: 4791

Re: Reducing subs: a scientist's view

Certainly the number and length of stoppages is a real problem. Are there numbers showing that it's worse now than the 00s or early 10s? I thought RWC data, at least, was showing a gradual increase in 'ball in play' time? The 90s and earlier seemed to have a LOT more stoppages in play, with three t...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

It's a lot more than a couple of games, honestly, but teams are quite used to playing with 14 men thanks to yellow cards. Teams don't fall apart because of the loss of a single player. Playing for 10mins with 14 is not the same as playing for 30, 40 or 60min. Yes. Like when England beat Argentina d...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

It's a lot more than a couple of games, honestly, but teams are quite used to playing with 14 men thanks to yellow cards. Teams don't fall apart because of the loss of a single player. They almost always lose when they lose a player for a significant amount of time though. You can argue many of the...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 711369

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Fu c king hell , this video: https://twitter.com/DavidFr31601156/status/1267315908760010754 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZc7lV-WkAIw12q?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZc7p0MWoAAwF6G?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZc7s4xX0AYNvj3?format=jpg&name=small https://pb...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Reducing subs: a scientist's view
Replies: 33
Views: 4791

Re: Reducing subs: a scientist's view

Certainly the number and length of stoppages is a real problem.
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast
Replies: 68
Views: 10236

Re: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast

When AJW quickly flings the pass deep Farrell and Barrett realise it's 2 on 4 and even with Watson, so they are stuck in no mans land, to far away to rush that pod and body in poor positions to drift or scramble backwards. Even though he wasn't given the ball their first though was to ensure they a...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

It's a lot more than a couple of games, honestly, but teams are quite used to playing with 14 men thanks to yellow cards. Teams don't fall apart because of the loss of a single player.
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Malaria & Covid-19
Replies: 114
Views: 14374

Re: Malaria & Covid-19

Big news - study retracted! https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246 Some serious questions to answer here for both the Lancet and the authors - and potentially the reviewers, too. It should be said that despite this, there's still no reputable studies showing this drug to be genu...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast
Replies: 68
Views: 10236

Re: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast

One of the physios, iirc.
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6897
Views: 711369

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

The ones that surprisingly get me the most are the videos of cops just casually walking up to prone protesters & journos, ripping off the masks, and pepper spraying them. It's just so callous.
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:16 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast
Replies: 68
Views: 10236

Re: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast

I dunno if you'd watched much of England but defending narrow with the far side wing dropped back was a pretty common thing at that time. Barritt chased a lost cause in midfield despite being 20 yards from his winger and it was a disaster. He was a great defensive 12 but no-one in their right mind ...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Malaria & Covid-19
Replies: 114
Views: 14374

Re: Malaria & Covid-19

Big news - study retracted! https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246 Some serious questions to answer here for both the Lancet and the authors - and potentially the reviewers, too. It should be said that despite this, there's still no reputable studies showing this drug to be genui...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast
Replies: 68
Views: 10236

Re: Sam Burgess on HoR podcast

I dunno if you'd watched much of England but defending narrow with the far side wing dropped back was a pretty common thing at that time. Barritt chased a lost cause in midfield despite being 20 yards from his winger and it was a disaster. He was a great defensive 12 but no-one in their right mind ...
by JM2K6
Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards
Replies: 108
Views: 14802

Re: NZ Rugby Take up My Suggestions on Red Cards

wamberal99 wrote:why on earth should the contest be reduced to an exhibition match, 14 against 15?
It's incredible how rarely a match becomes "an exhibition match" because of a red card. There's been countless examples of fine contests featuring red cards in recent years.