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Toro

Uh....no. I would react exactly the same. Why on earth wouldn't I? What a bizarre post. You are part of the problem and part of the reason why so many men don't come forward to report abuse. :thumbdown: Sorry but I just don't believe you. Why would you be just as worried about a man is that situati...

Toro

Yet you wrote in the present tense. You're all over the place, and that usually happens when people argue something that they don't actually believe. This is your off-ramp, take it. That's your win? Ok Keith. Grasping. Oh no, there's no need to win anything when your argument is so patently stupid,...

Toro

So racism against whites isn't possible because whites have never been oppressed, but now it matters. Make up your mind. In the current climate it doesn't exist no, that's not to say that it couldn't happen and in that case it absolutely would matter. Yet you wrote in the present tense. You're all ...

Toro

I never believed in this stuff before, but I feel Toro may be a visitor to our timeline from the 1940s. Haha right, because Critical Race Theory existed then, along with Mandatory Arrest Policies. You could smack your wife around all you wanted in the 40s and commit horrible crimes against Black pe...

Toro

That's a very misconstrued summary of what's been talked about. No one said racism against whites doesn't matter, and no one said physical violence against men is less important, but that they are treated differently and it's understandable why. If your white mate told you he got called a white c.....

Toro

Derwyn wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 4:36 pm Having a kiwi lecture us about domestic violence is like having Hitler lecture us about anti semitism.

Toro

No you and society constantly perpetuate this macho nonsense that prevents men at severe risk of harm reporting things. The physical effect of the violence is not necessarily the biggest problem here. Violence is violence is violence, just because someone wasn't physically in any danger does not me...

Toro

I don't believe that's true in any developed country because of due process. Otherwise it's essential a corrupt police action. The police will most likely provide support for the victim if she pursuers the accusation. The police must on the basis of evidence in each incident. In the UK a famous cas...

Toro

Man these are some really fvcked up people in this thread. Physical violence is less important if its against men? Racism against whites doesn't matter. What the hell is wrong with some of you. No wonder we as a species suck so much. :thumbdown: That's a very misconstrued summary of what's been tal...

Toro

How you imagine the historical struggles of oppressed populations around the world have any parallels at all to supposed angry racial abuse on a rugby field is bizarre. Read that again and ask yourself why the word racism even came about. ffs. It wouldn't even exist as a thing if that oppression ha...

Toro

They really are, as someone has mentioned, like men trying to claim domestic violence from a woman towards a man should be treated in the same way as a man towards a women, and then accuse those who disagree as being domestic violence apologists and anti-equality. :lol: I take it this is a piss-tak...

Toro

It's also plainly absurd, and most people can see that, which gives rise to counter-movements like "white lives matter" ... in a similar vein to the "men's rights movement". This is shit we just don't need. It creates more division, not less. Furthermore, it also risks confusing what "racism" reall...

Toro

Big Wendall Sailor said something pertinent about twenty years ago. When asked by a journalist how it made him feel that someone in the crowd had called him a "black c-word", he replied, "well, I suppose it's pretty offensive to be called a c-unt". My respect for him sky-rocketed after that. Gettin...

Toro

This thread is conflating two discussions 1) did Mbonambi call Curry a White Cvnt? 2) is the label of racist dependent on the race of the perp? 1) We just don't know, theories of guilt and innocence are both flying on the carrier waves of echo chamber opinions of the chosen analysis. 2) of course i...

Toro

It is very simple, you're correct. All racism is wrong - white on black, black on white, it doesn't matter. You'll get there one day. Good one Keith, try and patronise someone while you show a fundamental understanding of the basics of what is a very complex and highly debated topic. Until white pe...

Toro

towny wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:20 pm
message #2527204 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:19 pm
towny wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:18 pm

“White” has never been a racial slur. Never.
Neither has "black"

Excuse me?
I thought we were being serious here. Off you go.

Toro

That attitude would have got you a chief of police job back in the 1970s. Bravo. Probably still would in the deep south of yankland. Ah yes!! Where black folk have been getting away with systematic oppression of the white folk for years.. especially the police.... oh wait SOME awareness ffs!

Toro

It is very simple, you're correct. All racism is wrong - white on black, black on white, it doesn't matter. You'll get there one day. Good one Keith, try and patronise someone while you show a fundamental understanding of the basics of what is a very complex and highly debated topic. Until white pe...

Toro

scrums are good, but the laws are complicated. I would basically not have penalties for anything but collapsing the scrum which dangerous. Wheeling , standing up, boring in I'd say play on. And straight feeds please. This. If the defending team’s loosehead pops out, let the other team keep walking ...

Toro

The Oxford Dictionary defines it as, "Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." Most educated English speakers would defer to this source. Anyone educated would understand it is a way more complex issu...

Toro

:lol: you certainly do. If you Google "racism definition" the following is the first result, from Oxford Languages: That’s strange. I did google “racism definition” and the first result was different to the one you claimed… prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or in...

Toro

Necessary evil. Effectively, the point is to stop scrums being an outsized weapon on games. So if that means not giving pens for scrum infringements, or allowing the opposition to repeatedly infringe should the scrum dominant team choose to try and scrum their way 80m under a system where free kick...

Toro

Mr Mike wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:16 pm
Toro wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:02 pm
Magpie26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:58 pm

Hate to break it to you but the semi final has already been played.
See how nervous? Couldn't even see the thread properly
any doubts that you are a ref have now disappeared.

Toro

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:42 pm
Toro wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:03 pm Got my tickets!!

And the right thread..
So if Barnes pulls a hammy, Carley a calf and Dickson his groin.. are you next in line?

haha well I would sneak in under the radar as Spanish, only a few would know, until my first 'cre-ahch, boind, SIT!

Toro

Hope Barnes doesn't pull a hammy or something. Be a disaster if Carley or Dickson take the whistle. For both teams. Yeah Gus should be AR1, weird they've gone all English but they possibly work together often as a team? Barnes deserves this, and it's a hell of a game. Dream way to hang up the boots...

Toro

Hope Barnes doesn't pull a hammy or something. Be a disaster if Carley or Dickson take the whistle. For both teams. Yeah Gus should be AR1, weird they've gone all English but they possibly work together often as a team? Barnes deserves this, and it's a hell of a game. Dream way to hang up the boots...

Toro

Got my tickets!!

And the right thread..

Toro

Magpie26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Toro wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:14 pm Just got a ticket!!! Better get some flights. Suddenly way more nervous than before.
Hate to break it to you but the semi final has already been played.

See how nervous? Couldn't even see the thread properly

Toro

Just got a ticket!!!

Better get some flights. Suddenly way more nervous than before.

Toro

You're another from a bygone age. So who's more woke here, it's confusing. Nothing to do with 'wokeness'. It's to do with inappropriate racial slurs heard by someone who then reported it as per the policy of his union, and an initiative to actively combat inappropriate behaviour. We're all better o...

Toro

Do they even hand out bronze medals? Still an achievement I guess and good example to the kids.

Toro

Absolute joke of a game, but last time i quite enjoyed it. In that context players like Read got the chance to just go out and enjoy themselves in their last game, and send Shag off too.

Other years like 2007 I don't remember watching it at all.. oh wait

Toro

Even more than credit, which is thoroughly deserved, the Irish deserve some grace right now. We have all been there and should understand very well the disappointment that many are feeling. Many of the cited whingers are journalists and pundits and the last thing I would want is to be associated wi...

Toro

message #2527204 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:35 pmYou're another from a bygone age.

So who's more woke here, it's confusing.

Toro

The only ones going is Duanne Vermeulen, Nienaber and Felix Jones. Nice! That Irish series is gonna be unreal. How bout the next RWC? All your backline will be early to mid thirties no? Maybe just Willemse, Moodie and Arendse. Locks will be 35 (Eben) and 36 (Mostert), Snyman should be around but i'...

Toro

If you read between the lines instead of nit-picking what you consider to be a gross generalisation, he's just saying as, he already has, that there may be a bit of a scale on how seriously to take these matters in comparison. A black man called a white man a white c--t is not the same as the white...

Toro

How much of the Bok team will stick around? The only ones going is Duanne Vermeulen, Nienaber and Felix Jones. Nice! That Irish series is gonna be unreal. How bout the next RWC? All your backline will be early to mid thirties no? Maybe just Willemse, Moodie and Arendse. Locks will be 35 (Eben) and ...

Toro

yes, the ranking is not that relevant for another year or 2, WR said they will push the draw closer to the rwc date, but i guess it still needs to be decided officially Hard to see the top 4 changing much, England have the players if they get their sh-t together. Australia will certainly do their b...

Toro

CM11 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:49 am Ireland have a tough schedule next year and if things don't go well post Sexton, we could drop out of top 4. We play France and England away then have a three test tour to SA.

Wow that series is mouth watering.

Toro

Given the last year of results it's still seems strange anyone but France could be above Ireland to be honest. Given the teams they could put out right now Ireland and France are still the best teams in the world, NZ and SA nipping at their heals. France will have to do less rebuilding than Ireland ...

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