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- Sat May 19, 2012 9:33 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
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Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Re. Thornley's article, he is doing everything in his power to keep Nacewa at Leinster. He's constantly mentioning his desire to finish at Leinster and how the big bad IRFU are thwarting that. I wonder will the pressure eventually pay off.
- Sat May 19, 2012 9:32 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
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Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
I think Ulster will be sticking the high box kick up on McFadden with Trimble chasing, and for all the talk of us trying to slow ball down Leinster are the best side at doing so in Europe so we'll have to try and combat that. I genuinely think that we can get the nudge on in the scrum and we'll hav...
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:13 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Sure even McLaughlin's been lucky in that regard. Odd as it is to say. Fingers crossed McLaughlin's put his injuries behind him. Leinster certainly seem to think so with a 3 year contract. I think he's underrated, especially in his current form. Expect him to do more groundhog work than SOB. The nu...
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Sure even McLaughlin's been lucky in that regard. Odd as it is to say. Fingers crossed McLaughlin's put his injuries behind him. Leinster certainly seem to think so with a 3 year contract. I think he's underrated, especially in his current form. Expect him to do more groundhog work than SOB. The nu...
- Fri May 18, 2012 8:58 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Hook: o'gara remains the best controlling fly half in the world. Wtf?? The sad thing is Irish people with a limited knowledge of rugby actually base their opinions off this guy It doesn't really matter if ROG is still the best controlling FH. His physical limitations in both attack and defence and ...
- Fri May 18, 2012 8:45 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
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Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Ok so what I think Leinster need to do to win. Huge aggression at the breakdown, nice low body positions and don't let Ulster slow down the ball. Strong set piece, obviously. Sexton should target space in behind Trimble with his kicks. Trimble this season has been turned inside out by good tactical...
- Fri May 18, 2012 11:01 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
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- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
You mean the same 'niggle' that BOD was reported to have had? A 'niggle' that required keyhole surgery. I'm not saying he won't be fit but he was named in the original team (i.e the team sent to the programme makers) and was then pulled. Similarly Boss wasn't meant to bench last weekend but was pic...
- Fri May 18, 2012 10:05 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Tolands analysis in todays IT. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0518/1224316280184.html Leinster are primarily a set-piece team Interesting. I would have said the opposite, certainly last year, but perhaps we've become more reliant on it this year. My view would be that the setpiece i...
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:42 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Reports this morning that Kearney is a major doubt. He can't miss his third final surely :(( He was fine at the weekend. :roll: Looks like the confession box will be sought after this weekend with all these porkies!!! :? He missed last weekend due to injury. and we were told he could have played bu...
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:39 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Cam, ignore him please. Or take it onto another thread.camroc1 wrote:Probably because 2 of them are in the HEC final.DoopDog wrote:Is it true that there are only 4 genuine Irish teams?
How does it warrant a thread?
It must be very embarrassing for English rugby.
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:36 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
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- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Willie Falloon wrote:He was fine at the weekend.danthefan wrote:Reports this morning that Kearney is a major doubt. He can't miss his third final surely
Looks like the confession box will be sought after this weekend with all these porkies!!!
He missed last weekend due to injury.
- Fri May 18, 2012 9:33 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
That would be some kick in the teeth. And while Nacewa's no slouch in the air it does add a weapon Ulster like to use back into their arsenal.danthefan wrote:Reports this morning that Kearney is a major doubt. He can't miss his third final surely
- Fri May 18, 2012 8:47 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Don't know if you want it here or in the Irish rugby thread but my sources tell me that BOD trained at 100% today and will be good to go. The word is the muscle mass is strong enough to support his knee without needing the stability provided by the (medial, I assume) ligament. This is actually rela...
- Thu May 17, 2012 12:53 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Munster are trying to make the schools cups the biggest thing around down here and it's killing the underage club game which will kill the clubs in the not too distant future,lots of people objecting to how they're going about it but the schools seem to be wielding a lot of power now so it's fallin...
- Wed May 16, 2012 10:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
The 2005 learning didn't go so well though.Tecumseh wrote:Deccie not learn him right back in '98?
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:57 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
I miss your thread Willie- bump it so I can bask in its glow New match thread required in 3-2-1... If we make it to the match without the need for at least another three threads I will be disappointed- the lack of banning's has been very poor bar kernit last night but that was more of a sideshow :l...
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:57 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Anyway, Ulster as far as I've heard have no injury problems to their first choice bar Ferris's chronic injury. Leinster on the other hand have a fair few issues in the backs and I wonder will this sway the contest in Ulster's favour? In particular I'm extremely worried about the doubts over Boss an...
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:49 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
New match thread required in 3-2-1...EverReady wrote: I miss your thread Willie- bump it so I can bask in its glow
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:43 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Anyway, Ulster as far as I've heard have no injury problems to their first choice bar Ferris's chronic injury. Leinster on the other hand have a fair few issues in the backs and I wonder will this sway the contest in Ulster's favour? In particular I'm extremely worried about the doubts over Boss and...
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:31 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
What was the Leinster lineout like against Glasgow? Absolutely fine, if memory serves. I think there was a bit of disruption from both sides but it wasn't anything near as poor as it was. That'll be thanks to Toner. We really should be starting him and Thorn. Tough, tough call but Leo's past it. Se...
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Can we try not to have this thread sparkyed?
It's relatively clean still for me as I have him on ignore but I still have to skim over you lot quoting him.
It's relatively clean still for me as I have him on ignore but I still have to skim over you lot quoting him.
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:26 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Absolutely fine, if memory serves. I think there was a bit of disruption from both sides but it wasn't anything near as poor as it was. That'll be thanks to Toner. We really should be starting him and Thorn. Tough, tough call but Leo's past it.danthefan wrote:What was the Leinster lineout like against Glasgow?
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:17 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
McCarthy might be worth a shot but we have reduced our options, we are paying for keeping guys like Micko and DOC going so long. Caldwell might be worth another rattle, if he can keep the head he is useful. Bit of a Neil Best character though. I think Henderson could be a bolter next season, he is ...
- Wed May 16, 2012 9:10 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinster
- Replies: 1624
- Views: 156257
Re: Official 2012 Heineken Cup Final Thread. Ulster v Leinst
Thornley, Horgan and Wood on Newstalk all going for Leinster. I miss Shane Horgan. :(( Me too :( Our chances on Saturday would definitely be improved if he were around. Yep. To be honest I think we're a couple of steps down from where we were last year. Most of the team from last year are either mi...
- Wed May 16, 2012 8:35 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Stats, Boss came on on the wing at the end of the Weegie game for Kearney IIRC. Think Kearney hurt himself trying to stop their try in the corner. Oh I know he came on but only as a last resort. Obviously he wasn't completely unfit or he wouldn't have been on the bench but Reddan wouldn't normally ...
- Wed May 16, 2012 6:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Boss wasn't meant to bench last weekend according to the programme. Explains why Reddan played the full 80. Not something's he's done in a while which is probably why he's injured!
- Wed May 16, 2012 1:51 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
So the Indo are saying the two places left in the squad are for Leinster players not selected against the Ospreys. But to what end? As 23rd and 24th men? Bar a backrower I can't see who'd be included given the injuries we have in the backs. He might like to bring someone like Conway along for the e...
- Wed May 16, 2012 1:39 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
So the Indo are saying the two places left in the squad are for Leinster players not selected against the Ospreys. But to what end? As 23rd and 24th men? Bar a backrower I can't see who'd be included given the injuries we have in the backs. He might like to bring someone like Conway along for the e...
- Wed May 16, 2012 12:44 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
So the Indo are saying the two places left in the squad are for Leinster players not selected against the Ospreys. But to what end? As 23rd and 24th men? Bar a backrower I can't see who'd be included given the injuries we have in the backs. He might like to bring someone like Conway along for the e...
- Wed May 16, 2012 12:36 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
So the Indo are saying the two places left in the squad are for Leinster players not selected against the Ospreys. But to what end? As 23rd and 24th men? Bar a backrower I can't see who'd be included given the injuries we have in the backs. He might like to bring someone like Conway along for the ex...
- Wed May 16, 2012 10:13 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
So he'll miss the start of the ML, no big deal. He probably could have done with a pre season. And he shouldn't have got near the pitch in NZ such was his form. He wouldn't have anyway. Jones would have been in the squad without a shadow of a doubt if he was fit. This is Kidney don't forget. Form i...
- Tue May 15, 2012 3:52 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
What we really need are players with excelleration :thumbup: I like it! Anyway, re. the squad. Notable absentees are TOL and Duffy (not sure if the latter is injured but he'd usually make this type of squad especially with no FB). Is Jones a maybe or what's his injury? I presume Wallace is covering...
- Tue May 15, 2012 12:25 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Acceleration and speed do often tend to go hand in hand, within reason though. Well yes, you're unlikely to have top end acceleration but the pace of John Hayes. However plenty of 'slow' players have decent acceleration. Fitz and Kearney for example. And BOD still has decent acceleration but absolu...
- Tue May 15, 2012 12:15 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Kidney Out.
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- Views: 125740
Re: Kidney Out.
I don't think the stats re. players capped in the last 5 years is that damning. It's getting there but Ireland have been the most stable of the 4 nations in that period with little all out rebuilding required. We also have a fair few players capped just over that cutoff point. I can't think of many ...
- Tue May 15, 2012 11:22 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Looking at those 2 clips, I'd say pace, while important obviously, is well down the list compared to support lines, workrate, fitness, strength, footballing skill and awareness of and confidence in support players. In fact, just about every try you included shows the opposition defence, be it Tonga...
- Mon May 14, 2012 8:57 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
New mole article: http://dementedmole.com/2012/05/14/q-what-can-you-read-into-a-game-against-newport-gwent-dragons/#more-2625 There are some interesting points in it but it's a bit disjointed. Didn't finish it. A bit whiny. I had thought Keogh lost his impact due to an injury that meant he could ne...
- Mon May 14, 2012 8:51 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Yeah, I thought I was being a bit unfair on Harries as I hit 'submit'. Still think he'd be comparable somewhat to Conway in that he's a fair bit of a way to go so again we have a match.earl the beaver wrote:I think Harries will be, quality every time I've seen him, touch of the Ickles.
- Mon May 14, 2012 8:44 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
International quality they are not.earl the beaver wrote:Aled Brew, Harries etc.Uncle Fester wrote:Mark Jones was exceptionally quick. Daffyd James was atypical in being a relatively slower wing by Welsh standards.
For the size they bring, North & Cuthbert are also fairly rapid.
Halfpenny is rapid. Byrne used to be.
- Mon May 14, 2012 8:41 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
I deliberately left the genetically inferior pigdogs out of it Statto. And the Welsh do produce faster players, especially in the backs. Do a head to head comparison of an Irish team versus a Welsh team at any level you choose from junior club to international and their backs are always faster. Tha...
- Mon May 14, 2012 8:32 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 528744
- Views: 28840581
Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Do Wales really produce more? Of international quality? Can't think of many I have to say. No more than I can think of playing for Ireland. Ditto Scotland.
Even England don't produce masses of high quality speedsters.
Even England don't produce masses of high quality speedsters.