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by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So just to be clear, you're content to have a world view where every individual who votes for Trump is a piece of shit, yes? If you accept your voting for for a racist, narcissistic, habitually lying sex offender who has failed with many of his campaign pledges I'd love to know why. I keep trying t...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So just to be clear, you're content to have a world view where every individual who votes for Trump is a piece of shit, yes? Damn straight. Even if you happened to agree with Trump and his very weird policy agenda, and even if you're happy with that fluctuating to meet the present needs of Trump ra...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So just to be clear, you're content to have a world view where every individual who votes for Trump is a piece of shit, yes? If you accept your voting for for a racist, narcissistic, habitually lying sex offender who has failed with many of his campaign pledges I'd love to know why. I keep trying t...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Becuase the logic is if you don't share their view you are not decent so your construction fails. It is entirely circular but there you are. Fundamentally, it's a moralising world-view with all the hallmarks of something religious. Which is kind of ironic. It's a funny one. There isn't a shred of s...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Santa wrote:Becuase the logic is if you don't share their view you are not decent so your construction fails. It is entirely circular but there you are.
Fundamentally, it's a moralising world-view with all the hallmarks of something religious. Which is kind of ironic.
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:34 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

There are plenty of people out there who have solid empirical grounds in their own lives and the lives of their family to feel Trump's doing fine. The whys and wherefores of how he's managing it don't matter as much . We're not saying we're not aware millions of people will vote for Trump, only tha...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

On the economy, what he has to show is trajectory and jobs coming back. I think he's a strong chance on both counts. Interesting that the USA's recovery will be so much quicker than elsewhere. Here in Australia economists are predicting that job losses will peak in the first half of 2021. I'd be wa...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I feel that the point here is you're missing the point. There are plenty of people out there who have solid empirical grounds in their own lives and the lives of their family to feel Trump's doing fine. "Solid empirical grounds", eh? He has done everything he can to expedite the destruction of the ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

There are plenty of people out there who have solid empirical grounds in their own lives and the lives of their family to feel Trump's doing fine. The whys and wherefores of how he's managing it don't matter as much . We're not saying we're not aware millions of people will vote for Trump, only tha...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:23 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

:thumbup: run a budget deficit of a trillion a year pre covid and tear apart regulations that are there to run an effective society and how do you not expect people to have more cash in their pocket in the short term ; you would assume most people would realise this and then you throw in what a nas...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:20 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

On the economy, what he has to show is trajectory and jobs coming back. I think he's a strong chance on both counts. Interesting that the USA's recovery will be so much quicker than elsewhere. Here in Australia economists are predicting that job losses will peak in the first half of 2021. I'd be wa...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

On the economy, what he has to show is trajectory and jobs coming back. I think he's a strong chance on both counts. Interesting that the USA's recovery will be so much quicker than elsewhere. Here in Australia economists are predicting that job losses will peak in the first half of 2021. I'd be wa...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I hope you are both horribly wrong. The problem is, your arguments are at least plausible, if not compelling. Plus I don't much like the look of Biden. I think the Primary Model is very, very compelling. Norpoth is a quietly spoken German immigrant. When it was put to him that his 91% call was flyi...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

The electorate has never been and never will be a mass of all seeing sages poking through the entrails in search of worst case scenarios when it comes to national tax adjustments. They're ordinary people who want to know that in the short term they can handle their mortgage, pay their bills, get th...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Well done Trump for not f u cking that up in three years Yes. That's exactly the point. For a lot of people. The point is though that now it is f u cked and Trump is a loon who will no doubt give even more tax giveaways to the rich. I feel that the point here is you're missing the point. There are ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

And it ain't going to be Covid. I'm curious about why you're sure of this? Leaving aside how much of the response is actually Trump's fault, the perception is pretty clearly that the White House hasn't handled the situation well and the situation is getting worse. I'd say 200K+ deaths and a tanking...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:47 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I was surprised by how limited Rinkal's list of motivations were for the average Trump voter. It was almost as if he was thinking of a cardboard caricature rather than an actual human being. A lot of that kind of thinking doing the rounds these days. More's the pity. It definitely adds to the tides...
by hermes-trismegistus
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:37 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Well done Trump for not f u cking that up in three years Yes. That's exactly the point. For a lot of people. The point is though that now it is f u cked and Trump is a loon who will no doubt give even more tax giveaways to the rich. I feel that the point here is you're missing the point. There are ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Well I suppose, following from the previous point, the reason so many people don't know what non-MAGA Trump voters are like is because non-MAGA Trump voters don't let anybody know what they are like. For sure. Nonetheless, you have to be in the habit of thinking the very worst of others before you'...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I am very wary of assuming that Americans will vote him out after conversations on here with American voters who feel that he is performing relatively well and who feel that Biden would be worse. Clearly, if you live in the US, your perception of the impact of Trump is rather less critical than if ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

It's unlikely he'll lose. Helmut Norpoth's Primary Model has successfully called 24 out of the last 26 elections. He turned up in an unheralded Fox Business segment a few weeks back and announced the model predicted a 91% chance of Trump's re-election. It's a simple but ingenious methodology that m...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Is new politics in anyway about conviction?
Replies: 23
Views: 1773

Re: Is new politics in anyway about conviction?

Seems increasingly clear both in the UK and in America that being left or right wing is essentially meaningless to most supporters of these political parties. It is particularly clear on PR were many of the Tory boy cheerleaders like Bombot and the Welsh have no reason economically to actually be T...
by hermes-trismegistus
Fri Jul 10, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056753

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

If Biden produces his tax returns at the beginning of October the 2020 election will be remembered as being lost by Trump because he refused to show his. The last time he obfuscated, but he will not be able to fall back on the same excuses. Every debate shall open and close with, Well Mr president,...
by hermes-trismegistus
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?
Replies: 832
Views: 68792

Re: Why is JK Rowling suddenly evil?

Even not on trans issues, unseen's political posting is pretty highly strung and has regularly castigated centrists/centrism let alone the right. Really so what? She doesn't like the politics and has a go at someone because of it, not rare on here or anywhere at all, I'm sure you've done the same. ...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Culture Wars Mega Thread
Replies: 3347
Views: 290258

Re: The Culture Wars Mega Thread

Paywall Santa. #sad Try this https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-post-opens-new-front-in-the-cancel-culture-wars Or this https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/washington-elites-stalinist-halloween/ I was going to try to summarise it but it's too labyrinthine to do it just...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3372112

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

UK Gov set to abandon it's version of the track and trace app, and will try to re-engineer using the Google/Apple framework. The primary issue they've found is exactly what I said earlier in this thread - Bluetooth is simply far too inaccurate to measure the distance effectively. NHSX and it's part...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3372112

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

UK Gov set to abandon it's version of the track and trace app, and will try to re-engineer using the Google/Apple framework. The primary issue they've found is exactly what I said earlier in this thread - Bluetooth is simply far too inaccurate to measure the distance effectively. NHSX and it's part...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Amazon's Middle-Earth series
Replies: 62
Views: 5572

Re: Amazon's Middle-Earth series

IKR black actors/portrayals of homosexuality/women leaders in sci-fi or fantasy settings completely destroys my ability to suspend disbelief. There's a fourth wall that's necessary for most drama to work and for an audience to go along with it. Jamming in a bunch of contemporary hot button issues i...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Amazon's Middle-Earth series
Replies: 62
Views: 5572

Re: Amazon's Middle-Earth series

IKR black actors/portrayals of homosexuality/women leaders in sci-fi or fantasy settings completely destroys my ability to suspend disbelief. There's a fourth wall that's necessary for most drama to work and for an audience to go along with it. Jamming in a bunch of contemporary hot button issues i...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:56 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Amazon's Middle-Earth series
Replies: 62
Views: 5572

Re: Amazon's Middle-Earth series

It is going to be pretty funny if they make it all woke. Of course they're going to make it all woke. And it'll be the biggest and most expensive box-office bomb in television history. God, I hope not. Like my escapism to be escapist. Not a thinly veiled lecture. IKR black actors/portrayals of homo...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Amazon's Middle-Earth series
Replies: 62
Views: 5572

Re: Amazon's Middle-Earth series

Hellraiser wrote:
Floppykid wrote:It is going to be pretty funny if they make it all woke.

Of course they're going to make it all woke. And it'll be the biggest and most expensive box-office bomb in television history.
God, I hope not. Like my escapism to be escapist. Not a thinly veiled lecture.
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3372112

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

bimboman wrote:My doc took blood sugars ( :thumbup: ) , and told me to take zinc and Vit D in March.
:thumbup:
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3372112

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

UK SCientists have decided to look into Vitamin D as a factor in a big way :thumbup: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/uk-ministers-order-urgent-vitamin-d-coronavirus-review I've been saying this for weeks. I've been taking it for weeks. The reports about Vit D have been around for quit...
by hermes-trismegistus
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61014
Views: 3372112

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/18/europe/germany-meat-processing-plant-coronavirus-cases-intl/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-06-18T10%3A23%3A04 Holy moly (CNN)Germany is racing to stop a new coronavirus outbreak after 650 workers at an abattoir in the ...