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Irish bordies would know a lot more about this lad's career overall, but I recall his being absolutely steamrollered by Hosea Gear back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBk6PjwsILA

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Half of the suggestions are fullbacks already, but I would like to add Alan Hewson to the mix.

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Make room for Mushy Buckley... V Simon Shaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yH8m2R_zxE Tackle on McCaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQS2lNRV0NQ Baling hay:-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCYQNlx1rA4 watch from 00:25 You'd want to make a lot of room. I remember seeing him in an AIL final, he ...

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2 - Norm Hewitt I know he was a bit of a plumish bully when he was younger, but I've not heard any stories about him as an adult that justify his inclusion in comparison to the others you've listed. Besides which the hooker role is taken - no one is gonna trump Tromp. From Hewitt's AB profile: Whet...

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Idi Amin. Hmm interesting shout. He didnt play rugby at a high level but made up for it with crimes If we're going to play that game: George W. Bush https://www.ruck.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/bush-rugby-280x400.jpg Che Guevara https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00709/sport-g...

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13 - Steve Pokere: Pokere made the news for all the wrong reasons in October 2005, when he was convicted and sentenced for conspiring to defraud and was sentenced to 2 1/2 years in prison. The fraud conviction related to a company he ran with three others, FF Traders, that defrauded 36 investors of ...

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Lost 2020 vacation destinations 2: Croatia

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Lost 2020 vacation destinations 1: Greece

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Julian Savea would have to be in with a shout for one of the wing slots. 46 tries in 54 tests (second-highest try scorer in AB history), nominated for World Rugby Player of the Year in 2014 and 2015, but just seemed to completely lose interest at the end and faded away. I don't think I've never seen...

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naki wrote:Feels like a personal attack to be honest

Do you want me to include Kieran Crowley? Or Murray Watts?

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Well shoot, back to the drawing board. 15 Glen Osborne (North Harbor) 14 Eric Rush (North Harbor) 13 Conrad Smith (Wellington) 12 Ma'a Nonu (Wellington) 11 Rene Ranger (Northland) 10 Nick Evans (Auckland) 9 Dave Loveridge (Taranaki) 8 Gary Seear (Otago) 7 Graham Mourie (Taranaki) (c) 6 Ian Kirkpatri...

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This is a good one! Very tough for NZ, since the ABs tend to come from, or gravitate to, the more powerful unions. Only selecting players who won test caps since the inauguration of the National Provincial Championship in 1976 (including Super Rugby franchises): 15 Christian Cullen (Wellington) 14 T...

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Frodder wrote:
DOB wrote:In fairness, Jonathan Davies is a classic case in point, where both of them have actually had really good careers.
Ditto for John Williams

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Little known fact: this man did not play two tests for the All Blacks at fullback during the 1977 series against the British Lions:

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Just rewatched the eng v France wc quarter final from 91. That was two pretty psychotic packs going at each other A few months later... https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/29/forgotten-story-england-france-five-nations-1992 Would probably end with fewer players on the pitch than a seven...

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frillage wrote:Sean Lamont, dislocate shoulder, pop back in, carry on playing.

Aye, and he should have been yellow-carded!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnAhluqz-Y

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Rory Best played on with a broken arm, including noticing from his kneeling position (cradling said broken arm) that Ireland were carrying into a ruck with no support and then clearing out a ruck. He also returned from a broken neck 4 months ahead of schedule. Gary Longwell offered to have his toe ...

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Who defied all logic, medical opinion, and the basic human instinct for self-preservation by continuing to play a rugby match when lesser/saner mortals would have stood down? This is a global XV, so nominations welcome. 15 14 Jannie Engelbrecht: played on (and scored two tries) after breaking his co...

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Meads and Whiting only played three tests together so it is a stretch to claim them as one of our best locking combinations. I'd nominate Meads and Meads or Meads and Strahan. Yep, but they were two of our greatest locks and they did lock together. And I like the symmetry of it; the old bull in his...

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I'm going to go with John Eales and this guy (doubt he ever laced on boots, but whatever): https://9gag.com/gag/aKdRpL6 Failing that, I'd say, for NZ, we have been graced with our best ever combo in living memory: 5: Sam Whitelock 4: Brodie Retallick Other great AB combos: 5: Sam Whitelock 4: Brad T...

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Thuggery and hard bastard are two very different, often opposite, things. It's why I have no problem putting McCaw in a list like this. I see what you're saying, but Richie was a gentleman and this is a pack of individuals who might not throw the first punch but would definitely throw the last one....

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Playing on with a broken arm is fairly hard, IMO. I suppose it needs to be clarified if this team is the slightly unhinged hard man XV. https://springbokrugby.webs.com/Broken%20arm091.jpg That broken arm of Meads will doubtless become a legend in South Africa for it is an incredible fact that he pl...

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For NZ: 8 Wayne Shelford 7 Kel Tremain 6 Mark Shaw 5 Colin Meads 4 Brad Thorn 3 Keith Murdoch 2 Sean Fitzpatrick 1 Kevin Skinner Indestructible. :thumbup: And you know it's getting pretty ugly up front when there's no room for Frank Oliver, Jamie Joseph, Troy Falvell, Kevin Eveleigh, Alex Wylie, or ...

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Jim Lahey wrote:Tuquri or Sailor would be heavier than Roff no?

Paddy Batch too, if you go back far enough.

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Jay Cee Gee wrote:There must have been a heavier 7 than Richie.

Victor Vito must have played 7 at some stage - he'd be at least 5kg heavier. Liam Messam? Masoe?

Masoe was lighter and Messam never started at 7. The one test Vito played at open side gets him the slot, so updated.

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Each selection has to have a test cap in that position. For NZ: 15 Don Clarke (110kg) 14 Norm Berryman (108kg) 13 Sonny-Bill Williams (108kg) 12 Ma’a Nonu (108kg) 11 Jonah Lomu (119 kg) 10 Stephen Donald (96 kg) 9 Piri Weepu (96 kg) 8 Isitolo Maka (122 kg) 7 Victor Vito (112 kg) 6 Sione Lauaki (115 ...

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No idea, but this might tide you over until you find it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSWq45VufaI

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If you were the best of your era with the resources available to you then it’s highly probable that you’d be the best of the current era with the resources available to you now. I watched some old footage of Mike Gibson recently and thought his intelligence and skills would transfer seamlessly to t...

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Still some bright spots:*

* Pure sarcasm

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There are a number of NZ greats from the amateur era who were legends in their day but might struggle in the modern era - players like Bert Cooke (1.75m, 61.6kg) who were such physical lightweights. They could bulk up under modern training regimes, but I don't know if they could retain their speed o...

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To make things slightly easier for posters from other countries - who only tasted defeat once over the course of their career in your team's colors? For NZ: 15 Nick Evans (16 + 0) 6 Oct 2007 vs France at Cardiff 18-20 (+)(-) 14 Ian Smith (9 + 15) 29 Aug 1964 vs Australia at Wellington 5-20 13 Paul L...

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Norm Hewitt 9 caps :shock: :shock: :shock: Nowadays he would be a 50 caper off the bench. Bull Allen from this XV too. Then you think about how many "impact" players would have made careers as professional subs over the years with contemporary rules, like Sid Going for Chris Laidlaw in the 60s para...

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Ali's Choice wrote:Cory Flynn at hooker? 15 test caps.

One match off the pace - he played in the 2009 loss to the Barbarians.

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Who never tasted defeat in your nation's colors? For NZ (# Test Matches + # Provincial Matches): 15 John Gallagher (18 + 23) 14 Tony Steel (14 + 23) 13 Charles Piutau (17 + 0) 12 John Schuster (10 + 16) 11 Brian Ford (4 + 16) 10 Mac Herewini (10 + 22) 9 Bruce Deans (10 + 13) 8 Luke Whitelock (7 + 1)...

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There was also the 50pt All Black running of the bulls in Pretoria back in 2003. The crowd started leaving en masse with about 10 mins to go. :thumbup: Couldn't find footage of that one. I remember the crowd was chanting "Piet van Zayl" towards the end hoping for a repeat performance of his contrib...

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Now we're all sated in watching the spiritual guardians suffer the occasional defeat in that other thread, let's get down to enjoying some real humiliation. A good place to start, of course, is the World Cup 2015 pool match against Japan - surely a result that would warm the flintiest of hearts: htt...

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Bah, amateurs. I can only assume you are all very young... For the AB haters, fill your boots: France vs. NZ, 3rd Test 1986: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUGONZSaNM8&t=32s Australia vs. NZ, 3rd Test 1986: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklAY2ysmno (at 1:28:25) Australia vs. NZ, 3rd Test 1980: ht...

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Here's an obscure one - Ireland, 1970:

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Is this some early April Fool's day wind-up?

No Ian Kirkpatrick or Michael Jones, Liam Messam and Reuben Thorne are options, Graham Mourie and Josh Kronfeld aren't...

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Wilson Whineray, Kevin Skinner, Keith Murdoch...

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