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by JoeyFantastic
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

It's not that they aren't very good at it, it's that Israel has one of the highest tech, expensive (and undoubtedly the best used) rocket defence systems on the planet. Around 12,000 rockets were fired into Israel between October the 7th and 31st December ffs. It's not a normal place, how would you...
by JoeyFantastic
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Their initial ferocious response is understandable. Raw. Knee jerk. But they have had the time to let cooler heads prevail and they have not. What they have been doing over the past weeks should see Netanyahu and his cabinet up before the ICJ. This is akin to battering a neighbour who breaks into y...
by JoeyFantastic
Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Hellraiser wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:55 pm
The Scots are offering money we won't match for players who'd only ever be jobbing pros over here.
So? Still poaching, still a reason for the IRFU to restrict data on Irish underage players being public.
by JoeyFantastic
Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Scouted by whom? The English clubs don't have a pot to piss in, and they players are too old to get JIFF status in France. Scotland, Wales and maybe Italy? At a certain point, ambition is going to win out over nationalism for guys stuck in the system. If they had any ambition they wouldn't be inter...
by JoeyFantastic
Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Hellraiser wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:33 pm
Scouted by whom? The English clubs don't have a pot to piss in, and they players are too old to get JIFF status in France.
Scotland, Wales and maybe Italy?

At a certain point, ambition is going to win out over nationalism for guys stuck in the system.
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

I wouldn't worry over either that or his kicking from the tee. It's his little dink kicks etc., when we are in possession, that end up with us losing said possession, that are the problem. Nah, those kicks are signed off by Farrell as part of Crowley's remit - I'm much more worried that the fundame...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:16 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

I wouldn't worry over either that or his kicking from the tee. It's his little dink kicks etc., when we are in possession, that end up with us losing said possession, that are the problem. Nah, those kicks are signed off by Farrell as part of Crowley's remit - I'm much more worried that the fundame...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Willie Falloon wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:45 pm
Crowley has the exact same running style as Richie Mo-Unga. Very balanced running who brings the ball to the line carrying it in two hands.
Crowley's kicking from hand and from the tee need work though.
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:27 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹
Replies: 1077
Views: 24145

Re: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹

The worst nation on the planet for poaching is NZ. They have on an industrial scale implemented a schoolboy selection programme on Samoa Tonga etc to place in their private schools and get them NZ qualified. I think it's far too prominent in world rugby and that includes Ireland. Scotland are next ...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹
Replies: 1077
Views: 24145

Re: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹

Yes yes but it's okay when England do it because......excuses You getting very confused. certain players like joe cokanisaga or manu tuilagi are not poaches-they came through our education systems,our england youth sides and club academies.their rugby development was in england.chandler cunningham-...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

What evidence could he possible have if there's no testing? Do you want him to start hiding out in school locker rooms? A credible whistle-blower? A kid who ended up (I dunno) ill or hospitalised from the process? PED's seized in the Post Office on their way to one of the schools? Kimmage has nothi...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹
Replies: 1077
Views: 24145

Re: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹

I like Danny Boy Come at me Wild rover and we have a deal Wild Rover is originally an English folk song that came into the Irish folk tradition in the early 1960's when Luke Kelly apparently learned it in Birmingham, it's bizarre how ubiquitous it is here now - it's more or less perfect for the com...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

I don’t thing he’s excusing that man, take a step back Again, I don't think I said anyone was excusing anything? Sorry if I misunderstood your post - you said humanity doesn’t lie on the Israeli side - humanity lies on the side of all of the families that have been devastated by this conflict, Isra...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Ireland looks at the israel/Palestine conflict through a Northern Ireland lense . It's not like for like no matter how many times shinner supporters try to make it look that way. Leaving that aside, anyone can look at this crisis through a humanitarian lense - where does the humanity lie here, toda...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:12 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

It’s weird how many people in ireland can’t or won’t see things from Israeli point of view - generations of living surrounded by people who want to wipe your race out, and a recent example of someone almost achieving it. The Israelis correctly believe that Ireland is against them. We just have a si...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Ireland looks at the israel/Palestine conflict through a Northern Ireland lense . It's not like for like no matter how many times shinner supporters try to make it look that way. Leaving that aside, anyone can look at this crisis through a humanitarian lense - where does the humanity lie here, toda...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Kimmages core point is correct though, schools rugby should have testing. Kimmage's core point is, imo, these schools are already juicing and should be caught but he advances no evidence for his assertion. I agree testing should happen but he should put forward evidence to back up what he's allegin...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

It’s weird how many people in ireland can’t or won’t see things from Israeli point of view - generations of living surrounded by people who want to wipe your race out, and a recent example of someone almost achieving it. The Israelis correctly believe that Ireland is against them. We just have a si...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Kimmages core point is correct though, schools rugby should have testing. Kimmage's core point is, imo, these schools are already juicing and should be caught but he advances no evidence for his assertion. I agree testing should happen but he should put forward evidence to back up what he's alleging.
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

It's hip to be anti Israel. I don't agree with what they're doing at all but they're not the only side in this. There's plenty on both sides with blood on their hands. its not really hip - its basic fcukin empathy - one side committed an appalling, one of terrorist attack with very basic weaponry t...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Kimmage is a lousy writer as much as anything these days - 2 anonymous sources with no evidence and an interview with a coach who explained how the kids get S&C from first year so he spins it like the guy is being evasive? Bizarre he continues to get published.
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

This is just the usual over simplistic take on the situation. They are two sides intent on mutual destruction. They’re both going to be at war until one side is wiped out, there is no resolution to this. So take a step back and question whether you should blame a girl’s basketball team for the acti...
by JoeyFantastic
Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270181

Re: Israel declares state of war

As someone who's watched Apocalypse Now too many times (nah, you can never watch it too many times), I didn't have to read far to recognise the source. :thumbup: Indeed, I guess no one here is going to defend the specifics of this murder, except in the vague terms that "terrible things happen in wa...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

I don't think we have an aura. Nz had teams beaten before they entered the field. Most 6 Nations teams except Italy feel they can beat us if they have form Do they though? Currently? Those teams are a shitshow at the moment. That NZ arua comes from years and years of tradition. Only that great Oz t...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Israel declares state of war
Replies: 8587
Views: 270181

Re: Israel declares state of war

Incredibly sad . 6yr old girl spends hours on the phone begging for help from rescuers only to be killed when the ambulance and paramedics searching for her were targeted and killed by the IDF https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0210/1431575-hind-rajab-gaza/ they coordinated our safe access with the Israe...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Need to keep this shit going, want to see us pass France and get close to Wales and England in my lifetime. No pressure IRFU. The complacency is off the charts - let's put actual distance between ourselves and Scotland first. We have the structures in place to be sustainably successful. Up against ...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

They also have a superiority complex over us. The Welsh have had an amazing dead cat bounce (few grand slams from nowhere) in the throws of a general decline so have the rights to be a rival. Scottish have been all fur coat and no knickers for an eon now so don't get the superiority thing. Need to ...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

So, how come Seán Edógbo isn't in the Munster Academy or making the Irish u20's matchday squads when everyone is fit? Did he just have a freakish 30 minute cameo? Is he lacking some fundamental, either skill or S&C or what? Probably getting ready for Leinster academy Consider the long list of 8's w...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:52 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

So, how come Seán Edógbo isn't in the Munster Academy or making the Irish u20's matchday squads when everyone is fit? Did he just have a freakish 30 minute cameo? Is he lacking some fundamental, either skill or S&C or what?
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Boyd is naturally a loosehead and will likely have his professional career playing in that position, speaks volumes about the lack of quality at tighthead in this batch as he has been shifted across. He’s a very good loosehead at that. Lucas Kenny (& James McKillop - big blindside)) is out for the ...
by JoeyFantastic
Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:28 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

Israelis know this but don't want it, hence the land grabbing bit by bit in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Probable end game is expulsion when people do eventually fight back. Really evil cnuts. They are just getting what they can get before the negotiations begin. There's a phrase that "demogra...
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:33 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Scandalous from Quinlan not to give MotM to their 14. He scored 2, made 1 and saved 1. The easiest MotM decision in the history of rugby and he fecked it. 100% Total robbery. Also, how is Ed-óg not being crowbarred into that team somewhere as a starter, mad he didn't even make the bench last week. ...
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

redderneck wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:24 pm Hmmmmm. Rotate at yer peril it seems. That was a fcuking mess.
Not feeling great for Sunday tbh.
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U20 6 Nations 2024
Replies: 1172
Views: 18166

Re: U20 6 Nations 2024

tanu wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:07 pm I think we deserved a bit more. I don’t get why the ref stopped reffing in the last few minutes …
Italy deserved to win, much more composed side. Glad we hung on but it was a robbery.
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Scandalous from Quinlan not to give MotM to their 14. He scored 2, made 1 and saved 1. The easiest MotM decision in the history of rugby and he fecked it. 100% Total robbery. Also, how is Ed-óg not being crowbarred into that team somewhere as a starter, mad he didn't even make the bench last week. ...
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

This is just the usual over simplistic take on the situation. They are two sides intent on mutual destruction. They’re both going to be at war until one side is wiped out, there is no resolution to this. So take a step back and question whether you should blame a girl’s basketball team for the acti...
by JoeyFantastic
Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby
Replies: 145600
Views: 7843846

Re: Rugby NAMA thread Revisited Rugby

This is just the usual over simplistic take on the situation. They are two sides intent on mutual destruction. They’re both going to be at war until one side is wiped out, there is no resolution to this. So take a step back and question whether you should blame a girl’s basketball team for the acti...
by JoeyFantastic
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

camroc1 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:11 pm Mc Closkey for Aki, and Furlong rested the biggest talking points.
Larmour being the bench option is interesting - he's still in the picture.
by JoeyFantastic
Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Replies: 525355
Views: 28514105

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

No sign of Thornley leaking the team yet? Ireland v Italy (possible): Keenan; Nash, Henshaw, McCloskey, Lowe; Crowley, Murray; Porter, Sheehan, Bealham, McCarthy, Ryan, Baird, Doris, Conan. Replacements: Kelleher, Healy/Loughman, O’Toole, Henderson/Beirne, van der Flier, Casey/Gibson-Park, H Byrne,...
by JoeyFantastic
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹
Replies: 1077
Views: 24145

Re: 🇮🇪 vs 🇮🇹

Crusaders made 3 in 3 years which is more a sign of Munster Rugby getting our act together in recent years than it is any IRFU led conspiracy. We didn’t arrange enough of them in the previous decade, most likely for the same reasons we neglected our academy and made any number of other brainless de...