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Sam Cane cost us the World Cup

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At the end of the day

Sam Cane cost NZ the world cup

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I'm gonna be honest, my first feeling was relief on the final whistle. There's obviously disappointment too, but I'm glad it's finally over. I'm very proud of the second half effort, but unfortunately the first half had all the worst hallmarks of the Foster era: abysmal discipline and a slow start....

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I'll be there for yoouuu......jesus

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I'm gonna be honest, my first feeling was relief on the final whistle. There's obviously disappointment too, but I'm glad it's finally over. I'm very proud of the second half effort, but unfortunately the first half had all the worst hallmarks of the Foster era: abysmal discipline and a slow start....

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Foster made zero tactical changes early in the piece too. We're could have used some Dmac magic, BB and Jordan were offering nothing. He should of had Roigard and Leicester in the reserves to add some punch and Samisone was brought in too late to make any difference, when Sam Whitlock came on he loo...

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I love being right

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As a parting comment, I never got the Foster hate. He was a guy who was promoted above his abilities, it happens. The real angst I had was with the NZRU, who must have known in the first year of Foster's tenure he and the coaching team he'd picked weren't all they could be. A win today might have b...

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Ted. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:13 am
7 Sam Cane: Sent off for a high tackle on midfielder Jesse Kriel as the All Blacks’ discipline – their Achilles heel for the whole tournament – proved costly again. 2
Ouch!

What did he do to even get 2 points???

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Yeah and it’s dogshit. The high quality product you admire is just a mashed up ball of processed shite, 90% advertising breaks and blathering with some sports sprinkled in. I don't care that you don't like NFL. It’s just nuts to me that someone can think such slop is high quality is all I’m trying ...

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It’s unwatchable unless in highlight form. Ball in play for I think for 8 mins on average in a 3 hour+ broadcast. Not for me NFL didn't pretend to be free flowing like rugby, it's supposed to be like that. Yeah and it’s dogshit. The high quality product you admire is just a mashed up ball of proces...

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NFL is 1000 times worse. Maybe the only way for such a chaotic game with dozens of 50/50 calls to operate is for it to devolve into a stop-start turns based shitfest like American football The rules are much clearer in NFL and the product is of higher quality. It’s unwatchable unless in highlight f...

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Jensrsa wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:43 pm So the OP doesn't like a close, attritional final to the RWC? Go figure

Close? The ABs were down a man most of the game. It shouldn't have even been close. South Africa failed to put us away

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It's become apparent that the rules and officiating have taken the game down the slippery slope of being damn near unwatchable. Surely this spells the end of the greatness of this game. Whereas you can have a team that plays only one back reserve winning a RWC final, because officiating can reduce ...

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True Blue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:21 pm
Rugbynut2 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:19 pm Rugby is already dead in Australia and England, two traditional heavyweights.
Losing fans to league in NZ also. Rugby is a mess at the moment.

This. And with talks of having another NRL team in NZ(possibly wellington based) folks are slowly migrating year by year

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It's become apparent that the rules and officiating have taken the game down the slippery slope of being damn near unwatchable. Surely this spells the end of the greatness of this game. Whereas you can have a team that plays only one back reserve winning a RWC final, because officiating can reduce p...

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Big Nipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:11 pm
kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:59 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:58 pm

NZ edged SA in both set pieces. Wasn't enough in the end but it's worth mentioning.
More than edged in the lineout…
I think NZ pasted us in both. Im still trying to figure out how we actually won

16 vs 14

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Ok I see what you mean. Yes, they were relatively easy. Savea is a Hurricanes man, it's in his DNA to go for the try. I thought it was the right decision in real time. SA were down a man and the ABs were 6 points down. Yeah I thought it was the decision at the time too. But it was also risky, and w...

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The only upside to this loss is I don't live in South Africa and/or claim that shithole

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The turning point was when kolisi went off and u could tell they had no attacking structure by the way the played the 2015 style pod system. It lacked creativity and imagination. The one thing about Ireland and their style of play is that everybody plays the system to a tee and every player is in mo...

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Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:55 pm You cvnts should stop trolling him.

He is a great player and captain.

Don't rub it in you chickenrunning cvnt

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The Gods frowned back at Foz with a vengeance.

Absolute tosser coach. May he have nightmares of this game for the rest of his fat little life

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We all said he shouldn't be the Captain

We all said he wasn't the form 7 in the country.

Fosters right hand man

You apologists deserved this

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Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:06 pm Why did Foster replace Mo'unga but leave BB on the field?

Why did he pick Dmac in the first place??? And to take off Aaron Smith was disrespectful

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Where all the Sam Cane fans at??!!??

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Congratulations Boks fans

Your team deserved it at the end.

Well played

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Sam Cane is a shit Richie Mccaw.

Barnes is having a Mare out there.

Jesus Christ what a stitch up

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Normally I get nervous before a RWC Final or test match for that matter.

However, Ian foster has conditioned me not to feel anything and I feel rather calm and sombre before a final. Very strange

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I know why Foster chose Samisone over Dane. But I don't trust our lineout with Samisone. He could potentially cost us the game if the lineouts are Shakey, I suspect the Boks will be keen to kick into touch as much as they can We’ve got the best lineout in the tournament, he will be and has been fin...

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My coping mechanism is always playing Playstation 2's Rugby 08 / 06 to get it right out of my system.

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I know why Foster chose Samisone over Dane. But I don't trust our lineout with Samisone. He could potentially cost us the game if the lineouts are Shakey, I suspect the Boks will be keen to kick into touch as much as they can

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TheSmurf wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:13 pm
Auckman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:19 pm He’s up for Coach of the Year fellas

As per the kiwis, Foster is the worst coach ever.
As per Saffers, Nienaber isn't even the coach.

Yet here we are

Farrell is just happy to be there

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The only issue I have with our squad is Christies spot. I'd do a south Africa and make Nuggy play for full 80mins and use his spot for an extra forward.

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I expect an injury feint at every set piece from South Africa to slow the game down. G hopefully Wayne Barnes is aware of this tactic

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Sonny Blount wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:01 am If it was up to Foster. We would be at the world cup with Mooar and Plumtree as the assistants.

Wasn't Mooar part of the failed Scottish RWC coaching team this year?

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Their set pieces are likely going to be a big bellwether. If the Boks dominate here in the opening stanza, then it’s going to be four more years. Pollard will get them over from anywhere on the field. Mo’unga’s goalkicking was terrible in the semifinal. DMac has to stay on the bench for this reason...

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Zinzan was part of the 1987 squad. Debuted against Argentina during the tournament. Well, there you go. I’ll have a think about a replacement. Not so fast. It was not specified in the OP whether 'loser' meant played in and did not win a RWC final or simply meant played in the losing side. A few ver...

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Cartman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:31 am Parallel universe final:
If NZ wins it means France would have won vs Ireland
If SA wins it means Ireland would have beaten France

What if it's a draw?

England would have won?

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I have no idea why people think having a new champion (France / Ireland ) will cause a ripple effect on the entire fabric of world rugby. Sure the warm fuzzies will be there, but this game shouldn't lower itself to being a competition where everyone wins. It's prestige comes from being able to be th...

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