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Article in the Guardian says several European countries recently changed their safety standards to ban combustible material, I wonder how they can change their laws but Britain can't. Also says the there's 2 types of cladding produced by the company, the cheaper one for £22 per square meter, or £24...

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Article in the Guardian says several European countries recently changed their safety standards to ban combustible material, I wonder how they can change their laws but Britain can't. Also says the there's 2 types of cladding produced by the company, the cheaper one for £22 per square meter, or £24...

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Not if the cladding had the appropriate certificate. as it appears it did. My prediction is no one will go to prison as it's an EU f++k up. But time will tell. Richard may be wrong. Its shouldn't be too hard to find out though You have no idea how building works so just stop it ffs. I have posted a...

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Article in the Guardian says several European countries recently changed their safety standards to ban combustible material, I wonder how they can change their laws but Britain can't. Also says the there's 2 types of cladding produced by the company, the cheaper one for £22 per square meter, or £24...

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Not if the cladding had the appropriate certificate. as it appears it did. My prediction is no one will go to prison as it's an EU f++k up. But time will tell. Richard may be wrong. Its shouldn't be too hard to find out though You have no idea how building works so just stop it ffs. I have posted a...

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Your desperation to blame this on the EU is quite sad. I don't think people should throw mud at the Council or contractors if it's an EU f++k up. If this cladding panel was certified for this work etc then we should stand up for the council and contractors as a matter of decency. Not throw mud if t...

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Your desperation to blame this on the EU is quite sad. I don't think people should throw mud at the Council or contractors if it's an EU f++k up. If this cladding panel was certified for this work etc then we should stand up for the council and contractors as a matter of decency. Not throw mud if t...

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We know the panels were approved it's just Hammond said not over 18m high. :thumbup: Although Hammond said that the material used in the Grenfell Tower refurbishment, containing flammable polyethylene, was “banned” in the UK, a Treasury spokesman said later that what he meant was that it was banned...

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We know the panels were approved it's just Hammond said not over 18m high. :thumbup: Although Hammond said that the material used in the Grenfell Tower refurbishment, containing flammable polyethylene, was “banned” in the UK, a Treasury spokesman said later that what he meant was that it was banned...

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and here is the picture of the approval for the cladding used. So Hammond shoots his mouth off without knowing the facts. and seems to get it completely wrong http://eureferendum.com/images/000a%20BBA-019%20cert.jpg Isn't it the insulation that is at issue here? The insulation is within the panel. ...

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I've never heard so much horseshit in my life. Keep engaging with Silver and you'll have to review that statement. Silver is usually just a tedious loon but his trolling on this thread is a bit disgusting. I don't understand why more people don't just have him on ignore. Because some appreciate pos...

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I've never heard so much horseshit in my life. Keep engaging with Silver and you'll have to review that statement. Silver is usually just a tedious loon but his trolling on this thread is a bit disgusting. I don't understand why more people don't just have him on ignore. Because some appreciate pos...

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You are one of these in a small box unable to see outside of it. thinking because you done some low level work in the small box you understand the big picture. You don't Whatever. Take it to another thread. It directly relates to this fire. That's why I'm posting it on this thread. You might not li...

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In your opinion, do EU laws prevent a public sector procurer, from specifying a product of a higher standard than an EU minimum standard ? It's a yes or no answer. I believe they need to get EU approval for this . So yes they can but its a hassle. But I just read this on the above article and comme...

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This means that, where Member States already have their own national standards relating to such products, they are allowed to stay in force. And this explains why – even though standard-setting is an EU competence – different Member States (such as Germany, the Czech Republic and Denmark) still hav...

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But the level of ignorance about the EU is staggering. No one seems to have a clue what the EU does. Going right to the top of Govt. Yet they set the f++king rules for the UK. And the Uk often can't change them even if they wanted to The UK has it's own building regulations governing every aspect o...

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and here is the picture of the approval for the cladding used. So Hammond shoots his mouth off without knowing the facts. and seems to get it completely wrong

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Classic silver :lol: state some bullshit, try to back it up with a link to some batshit blog post, get his arse handed to him by somebody who actually knows what he's talking about, only to return and post the same dumb shit again as if the previous interactions never occurred. The troll master. Bu...

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Silver Local and national Govt's have got to be careful to follow the rules and not waste taxpayers money. a private developer is different of course Bullshit. Private developer wins detailed contract from L&N Govt (your desc) L&N Govt rules as built into tender/contract apply. Standards & conditio...

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https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/876513747598270464 He needs better lawyers That's fantastic :lol: The useful idiots that think the Washington post is still a serious paper will think Chris won this exchange. whereas he was cut to threads I would much sooner have Jay on my team than the oppos...

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https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/876513747598270464 He needs better lawyers That's fantastic :lol: The useful idiots that think the Washington post is still a serious paper will think Chris won this exchange. whereas he was cut to threads I would much sooner have Jay on my team than the oppos...

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yep the fun of being in power. i actually don't mind Hammond and May that much but the Tories are to blame for the self-inflicted expensive shit sandwich that is Brexit and the election was an ideal wing clipping (i just wish i had put money on a hung parliament) that still leaves them in charge to...

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Here is the research what people voted for http://ukandeu.ac.uk/research-papers/unravelling-and-reimagining-the-uks-relationship-with-the-eu/ The research, which canvassed opinion from hundreds of people across the East of England by Professor Catherine Barnard and Dr Amy Ludlow, from Cambridge’s F...

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William Keegan in the Observer on spreadsheet Phil, the chancellor who last week some thought was on the way out : "It was Philip Hammond, Osborne’s successor, who, in challenging Theresa May’s obsession with a hard Brexit, maintained that the people who voted for Brexit did not vote to become poor...

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"as France carries out structural economic reforms to boost its credibility" :lol: WTF does this mean. I can guarantee it will not be good for the majority in France and this article shows again why the fake-news media is failing. they just make bullshit up https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/...

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So public sector developers are not allowed to specify any products in their projects higher than the EU minimum standards ? I've never heard so much horseshit in my life. Local and national Govt's have got to be careful to follow the rules and not waste taxpayers money. a private developer is diff...

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So public sector developers are not allowed to specify any products in their projects higher than the EU minimum standards ? I've never heard so much horseshit in my life. Local and national Govt's have got to be careful to follow the rules and not waste taxpayers money. a private developer is diff...

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You have missed the point. And seem to have nil idea what the single market is all about. It to give one body the power to set std's so that countries can not set std's to just benefit their manufacturers. So when the Eu takes over an area its up to them to get it right Its like one body (WRU) take...

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This is now the EU's fault? Christ almighty :uhoh: Its not. No-one apart from Silver is even suggesting that on this thread. Just ignore the dickhead. If the Eu take over responsibility for setting minimum standards for cladding and these minimum stds are complied with yet turn a safe building into...

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c69 wrote:Silver stfu

Why. If poor EU std's are to blame as they seem to be why not attack the blame where its lies.

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This is now the EU's fault? Christ almighty :uhoh: Its not. No-one apart from Silver is even suggesting that on this thread. Just ignore the dickhead. If the Eu take over responsibility for setting minimum standards for cladding and these minimum stds are complied with yet turn a safe building into...

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Yeah, but my point is this. IF it was an EU regulation/standard, AND IF the UK was prohibited by the EU from setting a higher legal standard... then that would NOT prevent the local authority as the Employer/client from itself setting a higher standard (it just would not be required to do so by law...

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The majority are about to rise up and take over. Based on fairness and decency etc

I assume though that Corbyn means to take over these properties and pay a fair price for them.

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Regarding the EU thing btw, even if - as the article someone linked esrlier suggested - EU regulations meant that the UK could not set a higher mandatory standard even if it wanted to, this would not prevent individual organisations from demanding a higher standard, and if the UK government / parli...

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This is now the EU's fault? Christ almighty :uhoh: If you had any idea about the single market and what non tariff restrictions are all about (like country building regulations to justify buying a UK made product) you wouldn't have made this post It looks like the EU took over the competency for cl...

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Regarding the EU thing btw, even if - as the article someone linked esrlier suggested - EU regulations meant that the UK could not set a higher mandatory standard even if it wanted to, this would not prevent individual organisations from demanding a higher standard, and if the UK government / parli...

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Regarding the EU thing btw, even if - as the article someone linked esrlier suggested - EU regulations meant that the UK could not set a higher mandatory standard even if it wanted to, this would not prevent individual organisations from demanding a higher standard, and if the UK government / parli...

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William Keegan in the Observer on spreadsheet Phil, the chancellor who last week some thought was on the way out : "It was Philip Hammond, Osborne’s successor, who, in challenging Theresa May’s obsession with a hard Brexit, maintained that the people who voted for Brexit did not vote to become poor...

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Unfortunately Hammond already came out on Peston and said no deal would be a disaster so whatever the strategy now is anyone's guess. This discussion just shows how unbelievably stupid our MP's are. (and how inept the fake-news media is). Not one seems to have a clue. Yet the solution is so simple ...

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• Reply • Share › Avatar Dr Richard North Mod fred finger • 5 hours ago That's what we're seeing here ... only there seem to be cracks in the cracks. There's an interesting story in The Times just now .. asserting that the "Cladding linked to Grenfell Tower fire ’should never have been used’". Gove...

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