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by I like haggis
Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 10491
Views: 336137

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

£12K for a billion quid property scheme? Don't put jenrick anywhere near the EU negotiating team, please. The fact that he was actually in Parliament today and didn't have the bottle to answer the urgent question himself sums him up though. Another entitled c unt And more iffy behaviour from Jenric...
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

https://twitter.com/wolfxmobz1/status/1271811742075695106?s=20 "We're racist, we're racist and that's we like it, we like it" Starting to think this wasn't about the statues you know. the audio is actually when Chelsea fans abused a black man on a train in France back in 2015. Not from today Ah del...
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

Deleted post fake tweet.
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/13/man-urin ... ssion=true

At least he's not writing some mean words on it I guess.
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8398095/BBC-blasted-Black-Lives-Matter-protests-largely-peaceful-headline-despite-27-officers-injured.html https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-52960209/violent-end-to-day-of-mostly-peaceful-anti-racism-protests https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/126957497968070...
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1271755011777794048?s=20 Nazi salutes Infront of the cenotaph. Churchill would be proud. I'm not seeing any Nazi salutes. Watched 3 times. Guy in the blue near the camera on has one arm raised with his hand out. Most others looks like football chanting. Still g...
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

Does anybody else think that Boris/Patel have played a blinder 1. We are talking about statues of Churchill and Baden-Powell and how BLM want to deface them 2. We are talking about War Memorials and how BLM want to deface them 3. We are talking about Labour's letter which implies that if you are Bl...
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=20

Nazi salutes Infront of the cenotaph. Churchill would be proud.
by I like haggis
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I absolutely hate the prospect of it and think it will just continue and intensify the swirl of mad populist politics that's consumed the UK as a whole since 2014 but I think it would unsustainable to continue to deny another one Just on this, to me the main reason for the rise of populism is the a...
by I like haggis
Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

Some statue of a black playwright in Bristol , has been defaced with bleach :? Doubt his plays were actually worthy of condemnation so is just a reaction to the colston destruction. Will the same happen to the madela bust on the south bank near Waterloo now ? This tit for tat stuff is bonkers, the ...
by I like haggis
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

Why did Bristol have a statue of a slave trader anyway? Fucken weird man. He deserved the river, as do any confederate statues. In saying that, if they are going full statue pulling they need to be consistent. Start with that sexual deviant and hardcore racist Ghandi for one. It was built to remind...
by I like haggis
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

The Uk has gone a bit crazy. Will we be expecting Downing street to be renamed because Sir George Downing was a bit naughty in his day? The door of number 10 could do with changing colour too. There left is truly eating itself. This is the thing - if polls can be believed this stuff is supported by...
by I like haggis
Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:13 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 10491
Views: 336137

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

So 12 weeks has passed since Boris Johnson said we'd send this virus packing in 12 weeks.

Hmm.
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Who will be the next SJW victim?
Replies: 42
Views: 2093

Re: Who will be the next SJW victim?

Update for peeps They are putting metal shields around all statues (Churchill and Cenotaph - wtf?) due to fears of being attacked at the weekend. The actual state of that movement. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaQ83dQWsAMYs51?format=jpg&name=large Probably public safety as much as anything. You'd ha...
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

Doc Rob is right. 'Once in a generation' was stated, this is true, however had Brexit not been a thing then we wouldn't be having this conversation. The SNP campaigned fair and square on their Brexit stance, as the result was a fundemental change to Scottish real politik, they were duly elected and...
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

Doc Rob is right. 'Once in a generation' was stated, this is true, however had Brexit not been a thing then we wouldn't be having this conversation. The SNP campaigned fair and square on their Brexit stance, as the result was a fundemental change to Scottish real politik, they were duly elected and...
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

Not sure it's desperation Doc Rob it's just you can't have endless referendums until you get the "right" result.

It was said to be the once in a lifetime opportunity. It hasn't been a lifetime.
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Scummings going by Xmas..... Boris next year.
Replies: 10491
Views: 336137

Re: Boris goooooone or just Cummings?

£12K for a billion quid property scheme? Don't put jenrick anywhere near the EU negotiating team, please. The fact that he was actually in Parliament today and didn't have the bottle to answer the urgent question himself sums him up though. Another entitled c unt Do senior ministers usually get 'ca...
by I like haggis
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 37860
Views: 1128863

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

If this is your angle, why bother with medical intervention for the vulnerable at all since they are "going to die soon anyway". That's not really the point. When you're coming to the end of your life and your immune system is shot were doctors really putting 'died of a cold' on death certs before ...
by I like haggis
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK
Replies: 648
Views: 34110

Re: ‘Rhodes Must Fall’ rage now in UK

madman wrote:So after Rhodes it is Gandhi,,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882
In Ghana they did actually remove a Ghandi status for that reason:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... a-46552614
by I like haggis
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

Off course we need increase in immigration to sustain our economy and grow the working age population, and of course these workers should bring their families and settle here. They work in poorly paid jobs to sustain our care sector and look after our mums and dads, grannies and grandpas and contri...
by I like haggis
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I don't think you necessarily achieve diversity through quotas and pressure groups. I think if you have an open minded society engaging with everyone it happens pretty naturally pretty quickly. I think you misunderstand my point here, I am not endorsing quotas, I am strictly against them on both mo...
by I like haggis
Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Replies: 30205
Views: 1637380

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

BBQs in the carpark for a winter game in Scotland is bold :lol: .

I agree there's no significant grudge between teams because people are Scotland rugby fans before they are club rugby fans. I also think they should make it cheaper and give free tickets to rugby clubs.
by I like haggis
Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:13 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I'm interested to hear more about why you are not convinced that diversity is not something to be desired? I agree with Haggis in that diversity is a good, positive thing due to it offering new perspectives, languages, ideas and ways of thinking. That's my starting point. How the success of that is...
by I like haggis
Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I agree completely it's far from a conclusive study. I think Massie could be wrong - UBI could be built on top of UC with is a single payment with deductions. You could have a sliding scale depending on your circumstances and to try and make it more affordable. The mental health is the angle I'm mo...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

This thread is for general Scottish political discussion, because this opinion piece doesn’t match your views is neither here no there. He makes some good arguments throughout the piece. If UBI was even close to being a success why did Finland can it? Here’s a hint because it didn’t work but becaus...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Churchcill - Bit of a racist, Bengal Famine, Black and Tans. Gone Cromwell - Genocidal maniac, dictator and sectarian freak. Gone Bomber Harris - Targetted Civilians. Gone Disraeli - Instigated wars of colonial expansion. Gone Union Jack. Flew over registered slave vessels. Gone Or we could accept ...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Most of Dublin's place names still have the name of the English Landlords that built them. We still have many statues to our Anglo Irish past and you'd be hard pressed to find older Dubs who don't miss Nelson's Pillar. If these statues were to need to be moved to a park to put in one of De Valera o...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

The Dundas stuff is why the "statues are needed for history" stuff is total nonsense. I studied history to advanced higher and he wasn't mentioned once. None of the Glasgow and Edinburgh slavers were. We learned about how Abraham Lincoln abolished slavery but didn't once mention how Scottish traders...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I thought he had a number of businesses? How do you know the money "solely" came from Salvery? Or are you just saying that because it's more emotive? If you want to find evidence of these businesses post a link. Until then I'll go with every newspaper in the country going with him making his money ...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I thought he had a number of businesses? How do you know the money "solely" came from Salvery? Or are you just saying that because it's more emotive? If you want to find evidence of these businesses post a link. Until then I'll go with every newspaper in the country going with him making his money ...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Most of Dublin's place names still have the name of the English Landlords that built them. We still have many statues to our Anglo Irish past and you'd be hard pressed to find older Dubs who don't miss Nelson's Pillar. If these statues were to need to be moved to a park to put in one of De Valera o...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

I thought he had a number of businesses? How do you know the money "solely" came from Salvery? Or are you just saying that because it's more emotive? If you want to find evidence of these businesses post a link. Until then I'll go with every newspaper in the country going with him making his money ...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Statues are about celebration not history. Nelson's column isn't a history lesson, it's celebrating his achievements as an Admiral. Achievements which were helped by slaves in the British army and there is a black sailor on the column. . https://live.staticflickr.com/947/28065500028_0093fe1c2e_b.jp...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Washington and Jefferson are memorable for reasons other than having slaves. The statue of the guy pulled down in Bristol was a noted philanthropist and that's why he deserved it. Call me too liberal but selling hundreds of thousands of people into slavery doesn't seem a very philanthropic act to m...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Washington and Jefferson are memorable for reasons other than having slaves. The statue of the guy pulled down in Bristol was a noted philanthropist and that's why he deserved it. Call me too liberal but selling hundreds of thousands of people into slavery doesn't seem a very philanthropic act to m...
by I like haggis
Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Washington and Jefferson are memorable for reasons other than having slaves. The statue of the guy pulled down in Bristol was a noted philanthropist and that's why he deserved it. Call me too liberal but selling hundreds of thousands of people into slavery doesn't seem a very philanthropic act to me.
by I like haggis
Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I see there’s calls for the Dundas statue in St Andrews square to go following the demise of Colston in Bristol. Not sure there’s quite as much traction as there was down South but wouldn’t be surprised if Nicola jumps on the bandwagon should it prove politically astute. Was Dundas an actual slave ...
by I like haggis
Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff
Replies: 828
Views: 36678

Re: Sturgeon, Covid and Scottish political stuff

I see there’s calls for the Dundas statue in St Andrews square to go following the demise of Colston in Bristol. Not sure there’s quite as much traction as there was down South but wouldn’t be surprised if Nicola jumps on the bandwagon should it prove politically astute. No but it's good we have th...
by I like haggis
Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:11 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)
Replies: 6634
Views: 377277

Re: American Cops behaving Badly (All inclusive thread)

Slavery was good (For white people) but it isn't now - context. Why should there be a statue of a slave trader now? We all agree slavery was horrendous? Slavers therefore don't deserve to be celebrated with fancy statues? If we must contextualise the slavery was good for some and bad for others. Bl...