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by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

What are future Labour MPs from the south meant to do? Adopt a mockney accent and say they used to be a market trader? It's nearly as much proof of "getting it" as being northern. It’s hard to imagine Labour electing a leader now or for the foreseeable future who doesn’t have a plausibly gritty bac...
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

What are future Labour MPs from the south meant to do?

Adopt a mockney accent and say they used to be a market trader? It's nearly as much proof of "getting it" as being northern.
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Angela Rayner 🌈 @AngelaRayner Looking forward to being back in my old stomping ground of Stockport this morning on the estate where l grew up.... There's a danger of further fetishisation of the north if the Labour leadership candidates keep this up. There's a desperate push to show how working cla...
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:54 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Ricky Gervais Golden Globes
Replies: 213
Views: 17479

Re: Ricky Gervais Golden Globes

Short jokes worse than peado jokes
:lol:

It's a fair point really.

If I was in that audience I'd rather be called a short arse than a paedo or some sort of evil corporate bastard.
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Ricky Gervais Golden Globes
Replies: 213
Views: 17479

Re: Ricky Gervais Golden Globes

In fairness to the event organisers, it reflects quite well on them. People enjoy films, but in the grand sceheme of things the audience is a bunch of very wealthy self-important people who are used to being treated like VIPs. Good to see them having the piss ripped out of them. I remember an articl...
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

The lack of big picture awareness of these people is beyond belief. McClusky wants his people in control of Labour, but his people make Labour unelectable. How, in McClusky's mind, is a permanent Tory Government good for trade unions? It really is another bizarre case of principle and purity being ...
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

If, miracle, someone electable wins, they surely have to say goodbye to all of Corbyn's people. Murphy, Formby, Milne - tell McClusky he's no more influential than any other union boss. Wishful thinking I know. McClusky is possibly the most delusional of all. He was on Radio 5 on the Sunday after t...
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:21 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

If, miracle, someone electable wins, they surely have to say goodbye to all of Corbyn's people.

Murphy, Formby, Milne - tell McClusky he's no more influential than any other union boss.

Wishful thinking I know.
by SamShark
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

It all seems to be going well so far: Allies of Jeremy Corbyn are planning a major re-organisation of the Labour Party before his successor is appointed, PoliticsHome has learned. One senior party source accused Ms Murphy and Ms Formby of wanting to "burn the house down" before Mr Corbyn's successor...
by SamShark
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

There's not much traction for any of them for now, but that's like saying "Which England players would get picked for the Lions?" when England have just been hammered. As it stands Labour just suffered a humiliating loss, Boris will "Get Brexit done" whilst improving the NHS, boosting education and ...
by SamShark
Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Was there much in the way of policy? At this stage all they seem to be offering is to "listen", "understand" etc. You can send all the vague signals you want about whether you're left wing, but it would be good to see whether they agree with the nationalisation agenda and so on. There has to be a po...
by SamShark
Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Who will be the next Labour leader?
Replies: 33
Views: 2796

Re: Who will be the next Labour leader?

If they’ve got any sense they’ll pick Lisa Nandy. She’s the one most likely to win back the people they need to vote for them, rather than the people who are going to vote for them regardless. But, as: 1) Momentum hates her 2) Remainers hate her 3) They clearly don’t have any sense she hasn’t got a...
by SamShark
Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Nandy made the obvious but essential point in the media this morning
Ms Nandy said radicalism was "irrelevant" unless it helped people with their daily needs and concerns.
by SamShark
Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Labour should really do some televised debates like the Tories did. They may be lower profile as they aren't electing a PM but there's half the problem - the recognition for all candidates is not high and this could help the winner hit the ground running. They are all fairly untested in a debate for...
by SamShark
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Obviously thinks that to win you need to go down that route.

The video seems to exist entirely to challenge the idea he's not a proper Labour man.
by SamShark
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Starmer's campaign video going hard at the left wing vote - "I'm a proper left winger" sort of thing

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status ... 2783688704
by SamShark
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

I'm hearing* Dan Jarvis is running for leader

*(aka I read it on Twitter)
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

I don't know why they always call it a "movement" It's like being in or out of a club. Most voters, I assume, don't believe they are part of a movement. He's totally pig headed too - almost unbelievably so. Brexit is unquestionably a factor in everything about British politics, but the polling is c...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

I think the Telegraph Brexit supremo Peter Foster must've been reading this thread and felt the need for some analysis. In the last minute or so Tweeted: Can #Brexit be banished to the business pages? Which is to say, can #Brexit just be a nerdy technical discussion taking place in the background of...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

It’s not really a significant amount now, most have accepted democracy The implications of Brexit will be the debate now, and it remains to be seen whether everyone will just shut up and take it. I cant see any formalised "rejoin" movement for now, but the implications include: - The deadline to ex...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

It’s not really a significant amount now, most have accepted democracy The implications of Brexit will be the debate now, and it remains to be seen whether everyone will just shut up and take it. I cant see any formalised "rejoin" movement for now, but the implications include: - The deadline to ex...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

It’s not really a significant amount now, most have accepted democracy The implications of Brexit will be the debate now, and it remains to be seen whether everyone will just shut up and take it. I cant see any formalised "rejoin" movement for now, but the implications include: - The deadline to ex...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

That is as bullshit as saying anyone who votes SNP wants an independent Scotland. You are talkinb bullshit with your thwarted majority crap Calm down, it makes no difference any more, unless - as was the case - it provided some context to a discussion about whether a new Labour leader was/should be...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Is there seriously a school of thought outside Bimbo and Piers Morgan that believe a FPTP election has settled Brexit? Like Seriously? I'd say it's certainly settled the timing and manner of leaving, but Bimbo also simultaneously believes the 2017 election settled Brexit (as he could use the "80% o...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Is there seriously a school of thought outside Bimbo and Piers Morgan that believe a FPTP election has settled Brexit? Like Seriously? I'd say it's certainly settled the timing and manner of leaving, but Bimbo also simultaneously believes the 2017 election settled Brexit (as he could use the "80% o...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Instead of windmilling randomely could you point out something I've said that's anti-fact? It’s where I started today. But if you must do that, then there was a pretty solid majority for referendum parties as it happens. Clearly I don't expect you to engage honestly on this, you'll shift the goal p...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:54 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Instead of windmilling randomely could you point out something I've said that's anti-fact?
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:45 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Not at all. What are all those people going to do? Are they going to give in, or be politically active? A thwarted majority is a dangerously imbalanced polity. Populists sensing power will play to their unhappiness. It isn’t a majority, just a few weeks ago a party stood nationally on a revoke arti...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:38 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

But it matters for Labour a lot, because they are supposed to be the party that represents these people.
I dunno, are they?

I think there's a significant difference between being a socialist/trade union party and a party that represents the cultural views of, so called, "working people".
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

But if you must do that, then there was a pretty solid majority for referendum parties as it happens. :lol: , that’s why we are cancelling brexit. If it comforts you to think everyone wants Brexit, go ahead. I don't see why you get so over excited about it people making factual statements. None of ...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

But if you must do that, then there was a pretty solid majority for referendum parties as it happens. :lol: , that’s why we are cancelling brexit. If it comforts you to think everyone wants Brexit, go ahead. I don't see why you get so over excited about it people making factual statements. None of ...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Keir Starmer is ahead in the first poll of Labour members – but a lot could change Starmer has reasons to be cheerful, but the contest has only just started. Starmer is on course to win the Labour leadership election by a heavy margin, according to the first YouGov poll of Labour Party members. You...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

They didn't want a 2nd ref for a few reasons. Remember many Remainers when polled didn't agreed the referendum should be respected. It was likely many wouldn't vote with as much enthusiasm as before. It was the political and media classes who made it look like Remainer people agreed with overturnin...
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Maybe they aren't as daft as people here are painting them.
Pollsters have pointed out that this is just members not affiliates and other various people that have a vote. So is good for Starmer but there are other sources of votes.
by SamShark
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Nigel Wray gooone
Replies: 94
Views: 5975

Re: Nigel Wray gooone

DragsterDriver wrote:“It’s a shame about Wray”
Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothing comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Wray
by SamShark
Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Presume in the real vote, there's some new rule where Len McClusky's vote counts 500,000 times.
by SamShark
Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Interesting:

NEW - First YouGov poll of Labour members

*Starmer takes an early lead over Long-Bailey*

% choosing them as first preference for leader

Keir Starmer 31%
Rebecca Long-Bailey 20%
Jess Phillips 11%
Yvette Cooper 7%
Clive Lewis 7%
Emily Thornberry 6%
Lisa Nandy 5%

Source: ESRC
by SamShark
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Anyone got a Telegraph log in and can C+P this - just seen a few people takling about it on Twitter and wondered why:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... lan-reform
by SamShark
Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

I don't know why they always call it a "movement" It's like being in or out of a club. Most voters, I assume, don't believe they are part of a movement. He's totally pig headed too - almost unbelievably so. Brexit is unquestionably a factor in everything about British politics, but the polling is cl...
by SamShark
Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Official Eldanielbore and Unseenbrain Quarantine Zone
Replies: 8736
Views: 408227

Re: Official Marxist Re-Education Thread

Frodder wrote:Burgon will stand for deputy leader FACT
Might need to extend the 5 years of "resistance" then.