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by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:50 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Bauer Media, publisher of Listener, Metro, North & South, AirNZ Kia Ora as well as the heavyweights Woman’s Day and Woman’s Weekly will close. https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/02-04-2020/publisher-of-nz-listener-womans-weekly-north-south-to-shut-down/ A lot of the blame for this has to be with the go...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

mr bungle wrote:
Muttonbirds wrote:The Bauer decision is terrible for me because I was a contributor.
Rosie Love Life?
Make fun of people's work. It makes you look real good.
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:32 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Obviously a lot of people have f**ked this up for political/power reasons. Can I just ask that the next time this happens, and there will be a next time, that a world body is in place for any and all local medical people to report to rather than their own governments? I don't care that this virus e...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:30 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: What's this Pandemic exposed?
Replies: 79
Views: 7264

Re: What's this Pandemic exposed?

Pat the Ex Mat wrote:I wouldn't want to work from home full-time but definitely a couple of times a week would be good.

As for a suit? Fark that!
Pat, what are your symptoms now? Have been thinking about your situation.
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61131
Views: 3390475

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQaQIB1fSk Political journalist meets. Scientist. The media are an absolute disgrace. I'm trying to work out which position you support here. Normally I would take the position opposite to you because you are a right wing nut job, but I really can't tell from the vi...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Obviously a lot of people have f**ked this up for political/power reasons. Can I just ask that the next time this happens, and there will be a next time, that a world body is in place for any and all local medical people to report to rather than their own governments? I don't care that this virus e...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:04 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Anyway, the PM will be hurting from this. She's already had to defend it - not that she should have to because it was a decision made in Germany.

But she now has one less vehicle for promoting her brand leading up to the next election...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:46 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

I think long-form journalism like North and South is a vital part of documenting NZ's cultural history I mean, when people are reviewing what NZ was like today 100 years in the future, what do you think will be of more cultural value, copies of North and South magazine, or tapings of infotainment b...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

The Bauer decision is terrible for me because I was a contributor. That's on top of all foreign film and TV production being axed for at least 12 months. And all local productions on hold for 3-6 months. But, as has been said, Bauer's model was not a model for the future and for whatever reason they...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Obviously a lot of people have f**ked this up for political/power reasons. Can I just ask that the next time this happens, and there will be a next time, that a world body is in place for any and all local medical people to report to rather than their own governments? I don't care that this virus em...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:08 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

You guys realise it is possible for the government to have been correct in it's decision making with the lockdown and to also be responsible for the consequences of that decision. It's all well and good saying you respect the government for their actions, but an awful lot of small and medium busine...
by Muttonbirds
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:03 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

jambanja wrote:1. What's been the worst thing about being in lockdown?
The golf course has been shut down, which means my Saturday escape has been taken away, the wife feels the same way
First world problems.
by Muttonbirds
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:17 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

And I'm getting Tarot Card ads at the top at the moment. Before that it was ear-wax removal. :?
by Muttonbirds
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:13 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Things have been moving quickly but the guidance around testing (discretion vs. as per the case definition) is a worrying area of ambiguity. That and what is “local” seem the two areas that have caused the most confusion. Don't know too much about it but my feeling is that early testing capacity wa...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:06 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

I hope there are some well funded civil liberties think tanks that take a record of every single measure taken specifically in this crisis and track the rescindment of every single one of them (unless a very very good reason not to) after this crisis. The natural tendency of polticians and police i...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Something that is annoying is the softly softly approach that the cops seem to betaking with lockdown violations. People being arrested for multiple breaches being let go with a warning. 60 people at a covid party in Queenstown. Some guy in Invercargill. The kids who have been at the local skateboa...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9078660

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

He's managed to get the most Covid-19 cases of any country. Is that a win in his orange eyes?
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Two expats posting about civil liberties in New Zealand when neither has set foot in the place, economically speaking, in years. :roll:

Are you both planning to return and contribute some time soon? Lol.
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:33 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Once again berating others for not being kind yet on another site laughing when he hears the news that someone has a flu that may kill them . Oh great. I thought you might have wandered off. You won't find many Australian posters shedding a tear for Peter Dutton. http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewto...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Hysterical anti-racism is an issue much more dangerous to the wider body politic than lurking pockets of actual racism. That's the dumbest comment I have ever read on this forum. I get that racism has become cool again for conservatives, and that you're an open and proud bigot, but do you actually ...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:18 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Once again berating others for not being kind yet on another site laughing when he hears the news that someone has a flu that may kill them . Oh great. I thought you might have wandered off. You won't find many Australian posters shedding a tear for Peter Dutton. http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewto...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Car score for the last 6 days. Just decided to take 3 snapshots per day of 10 minutes each, morning,(7 - 8 a.m) late morning, (11a.m - 12) and early evening (5 - 6 pm). x 6 for an hourly score, add the 3 numbers and divide by 3 to get an average/hour. Very rough science, but should show any trends....
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:08 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Hysterical anti-racism is an issue much more dangerous to the wider body politic than lurking pockets of actual racism. That's the dumbest comment I have ever read on this forum. I get that racism has become cool again for conservatives, and that you're an open and proud bigot, but do you actually ...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

Hysterical anti-racism is an issue much more dangerous to the wider body politic than lurking pockets of actual racism. That's the dumbest comment I have ever read on this forum. I get that racism has become cool again for conservatives, and that you're an open and proud bigot, but do you actually ...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:49 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: China backlash?
Replies: 1098
Views: 132200

Re: China backlash?

I think you're going to find yourself in a minority position on this issue. Hysterical anti-racism is an issue much more dangerous to the wider body politic than lurking pockets of actual racism. It supresses sensible rational dialogue and promotes naive self-destructive policy. I'll be happy to be...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Once again berating others for not being kind yet on another site laughing when he hears the news that someone has a flu that may kill them . Oh great. I thought you might have wandered off. You won't find many Australian posters shedding a tear for Peter Dutton. http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewto...
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

terangi48 wrote:Tehui's Stats - Mark 2

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The blue line looks like Akira Ioane's career path. :(
by Muttonbirds
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:22 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

So... if you could go back to last Tuesday, what is the one thing that you would do to be ready for the 4 weeks inside (for those who are staying at home). For me - a haircut. Lockdown was midnight Wednesday. I got a haircut at 4pm Wednesday in preparation. Probably got Coronavirus at the same time.
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9078660

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

He's never got his eye on the ball. I recall the time, when he should have been concentrating on the intense pressure of his impeachment, he was pissing around closing down travel from China, against the express wishes of the WHO. Didn't work though. So at best you could say he is ineffectual. Well...
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9078660

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

BillW wrote:He's never got his eye on the ball.
I recall the time, when he should have been concentrating on the intense pressure of his impeachment, he was pissing around closing down travel from China, against the express wishes of the WHO.
Didn't work though. So at best you could say he is ineffectual.
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Man In Black wrote:Why do we have to have Muttonbird back? Is there some coronavirus rule that means people who suck are now ok to post again? Who next, Quentin Poulsen?
That's pretty uncharitable in these difficult times.

How's the industry in Britain? I heard Eastenders shut down so what are you doing for work?
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Replies: 61131
Views: 3390475

Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Am monitoring my temp and will call it in the morning. Still not at fever yet
Panadol apparently, not Ibuprofen. Good luck.
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:07 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Been simmering for years. Ideological opposition will at best delay or kill any potential move and these people will have their lives ruined. The Liberals would probably be happy to see them leave Oz. The way Jacinda is playing this - from a weak hand - they will be booted from Oz, and when the dus...
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Been simmering for years. Ideological opposition will at best delay or kill any potential move and these people will have their lives ruined. The Liberals would probably be happy to see them leave Oz. The way Jacinda is playing this - from a weak hand - they will be booted from Oz, and when the dus...
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Thread on jacinda v Scomo. Views either way. https://twitter.com/oneforthedr/status/1244402007206592512?s=19 I think you and David Farrar are being more than a little naive on what Hamish Rutherford was actually saying. Don't do this please. You don't know what I think Hamish Rutherford was saying....
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

jambanja wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:Thread on jacinda v Scomo. Views either way.
https://twitter.com/oneforthedr/status/ ... 92512?s=19
It's just been announced that kiwis are eligible for $1500 a fortnight, well those in danger of losing their job because of Corona-19. The unemployed kiwis are not
$750/week? For how long?
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52921
Views: 3565584

Re: NZ Politics Thread - NEW ZEALAND LOCKDOWN THREAD

Seneca of the Night wrote:Thread on jacinda v Scomo. Views either way.
https://twitter.com/oneforthedr/status/ ... 92512?s=19
I think you and David Farrar are being more than a little naive on what Hamish Rutherford was actually saying.
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Australian Politics Thread
Replies: 29346
Views: 2084851

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

People's thoughts on the government's $130 billion wage subsidy announcement today? Just some mechanics here for reference. The comparison will be interesting. I'm a self employed independent contractor in NZ who has lost all work for the foreseeable future. We got NZD585/week for 12 weeks in a lum...
by Muttonbirds
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:59 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The Australian Politics Thread
Replies: 29346
Views: 2084851

Re: The Australian Politics Thread

No sarcasm. Apologies, my trigger finger developed a twitch :uhoh: More so because they *knew* they were going to have to take these decisions. Delaying them only gains an illusory boost to the market. Illusory because the market is headed to only one place, and they know that too. They're cowards....