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by Santa
Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:40 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 40921
Views: 2105026

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

CEBR forecasts out. China to go to number 1 by 2030. US to 2. UK to stay around 5-6 moving behind India but waaaay ahead of France. European countries to fall from 19% of global output to 12% by 2035.

Just a forecast. Don't believe the experts. :thumbup:
by Santa
Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Another Me Too incident for Democrats to ignore. Warnock running over his wife's foot during a domestic dispute? https://youtu.be/qWGiZ7C4c7k I work as a family court lawyer. I see this stuff all the time in custody disputes. Mothers claiming that the father is abusive to get a leg up in terms of w...
by Santa
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Another Me Too incident for Democrats to ignore.

Warnock running over his wife's foot during a domestic dispute?

https://youtu.be/qWGiZ7C4c7k
by Santa
Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:31 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Interesting Twitter thread here. Lawsuit filed today against educational agencies, teachers, principal, & CEO responsible for hosting workshops requiring children to make public professions about their racial, sexual, gender & religious identities, some of which were singled out for interrogation. h...
by Santa
Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I'm surprised you guys haven't been all over this story Demands from the faculty of the Dalton School in New York in an 8 page anti-racism policy. It's a little old now but worth a laugh. Hiring 12 full-time diversity officers, and multiple psychologists to support students “coping with race-based t...
by Santa
Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Just reading around about the Relief Bill and I had never fully appreciated how awful the process of constructing and passing legislation through the House is, what with all the irrelevant attachments. It must the one of the great shames of Western democracy. :thumbdown: Exhibit A: "Of the funds ap...
by Santa
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Just reading around about the Relief Bill and I had never fully appreciated how awful the process of constructing and passing legislation through the House is, what with all the irrelevant attachments. It must the one of the great shames of Western democracy. :thumbdown: Exhibit A: "Of the funds ap...
by Santa
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Just reading around about the Relief Bill and I had never fully appreciated how awful the process of constructing and passing legislation through the House is, what with all the irrelevant attachments. It must the one of the great shames of Western democracy. :thumbdown: Exhibit A: "Of the funds app...
by Santa
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:31 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Just reading around about the Relief Bill and I had never fully appreciated how awful the process of constructing and passing legislation through the House is, what with all the irrelevant attachments. It must the one of the great shames of Western democracy. :thumbdown:
by Santa
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:25 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Can we split this thread please. One for people to actually talk about things and one for people who have nothing to say aboit anything other than to pile on Mick. :thumbup:
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I wonder if any news channel will address the misinformation they broadcast in relation to Russiagate?
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

CDC walking back the proposal somewhat I see. Striking a compromise between two high-risk population groups, a panel advising the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention voted Sunday to recommend that people age 75 and older be next in line to receive the coronavirus vaccine in the United States,...
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg
Replies: 254
Views: 18621

Re: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg

I have to remember that next time country has a national tragedy I should preface my expression of sympathy with a description of the meal I just ate at a restaurant.
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg
Replies: 254
Views: 18621

Re: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg

Kiwis humblebrag while thousands die. It's a great look. :thumbup:
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg
Replies: 254
Views: 18621

Re: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg

Dark why do you want New Zealanders to die?
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:41 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg
Replies: 254
Views: 18621

Re: New Zealand's response rated best in the world: Bloomberg

Repeat after me: you must not criticise the Government.
by Santa
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Nate Silver laying into the CDC I see. Even people whose job it is notice not notice are noticing.

And why is that? Because having got rid of Trump they now have to deal with the Monster of Woke they have awoken in order to get rid of Trump.
by Santa
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18299
Views: 862635

Re: President-Elect Joe Biden and U.S. Politics Catch-All

President-elect Joe Biden on Saturday said the U.S. government has “long broken promises to Native American tribes,” in remarks officially introducing Rep. Deb Haaland (D-N.M.) as his pick for Interior secretary, making her the first Native American to be selected for a Cabinet position. Sounds bad...
by Santa
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Rawstory.com? Never heard of it until on this thread just now. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/raw-story/ Overall, we rate Raw Story Left Biased based on story selection that favors the left and Mixed for factual reporting due to half-true, false, and unproven claims, as well as the promotion of mild...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Under the CDC proposal the first in line ARE healthcare workers. The second in line are essential workers. The third in line are the elderly. The CDC believes this strategy will result in higher deaths than if you reverse the second and third in line. But this is acceptable for reasons of equity and...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52652
Views: 3537533

Re: NZ Politics Thread

Anyone looked at Heather Simpson and Brian Roche's report into the testing and surveillance system or has the government successfully buried it? https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300188106/government-dumps-damning-health-report-on-last-day-of-the-year It doesn't sound too good. NZ's success is...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

And just to spell it out nice and clear Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whit...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

There is one way to fix all of this. That's right. Double counting black votes. :thumbup: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-votes-reparations-gerrymandering/tnamp/?__twitter_impression=true&s=09 But there’s another way to undo the damage of the Electoral College and other structurally ...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:48 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

And just to spell it out nice and clear Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are white...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:15 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

And the reason is the vaccinating the elderly doesn't meet that aim of mitigating health inequities because... drumroll... minority groups are under represented in the over 65 age group and over represented in the essential workers group.

They actually wrote that down.
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:01 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Even Matthew Yglasias is perplexed. So the CDC model says that whether or not you assume the vaccine blocks transmission as well as symptoms, that prioritizing the elderly saves more lives than prioritizing essential workers. Yet that's not their recommendation! https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/stat...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Current plans put forward by the CDC suggest essential workers—a population of about 87 million—will be in this category, known as phase 1b. The following phase, 1c, which could start in about three months, would include the approximately 153 million people who have high-risk medical conditions and...
by Santa
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:19 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

I want to apologise to the bored. I have been wrong all along. When I was talking about healthcare workers earlier I should have been referring to essentia workers instead. So the correct formulation of the CDC recommendation is to vaccinate ESSENTIAL workers ahead of the elderly because the elderly...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: NZ Politics Thread
Replies: 52652
Views: 3537533

Re: NZ Politics Thread

I don't understand what the government is getting for $30m. It is some conservation land and land for a couple of hundred houses?
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime
Replies: 540
Views: 41263

Re: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime

Wisconsin Wisconsin The litigation in Wisconsin state supreme court warrants more discussion. Readers may recall that earlier in December, that tribunal declined to review the campaign’s claims of voting improprieties, referring the case to a lower court — unreasonably, in my view, because the claim...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime
Replies: 540
Views: 41263

Re: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime

From our favourite legal commentator. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/12/biden-won-wisconsin-but-it-was-even-closer-than-reported/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first Georgia We’ve previously observed that the Trum...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Replies: 40921
Views: 2105026

Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread

UK students had their vote. Twice.
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Is there anything racism cannot do? Must Reads: STDs in L.A. County are skyrocketing. Officials think racism and stigma may be to blame https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-std-stigma-20180507-htmlstory.html#:~:text=California%20Must%20Reads%3A%20STDs%20in%20L.A.%20County%20are,unintend...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18299
Views: 862635

Re: President-Elect Joe Biden and U.S. Politics Catch-All

She's a Doctor you sexists. Dr. Biden.
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:36 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

According to the CDC two of the ethical criteria used to determine whether healthcare workers or the elderly should get it first are a) Promote Justice and b) Mitigate Health Inequities. The third is Maximise Benefits & Mitigate Harms. Seems a good basis to accept more deaths right? Edit: that was b...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: U.S. politics thread and Joe Biden-the Ronan O'Gara of U.S. Presidents
Replies: 18299
Views: 862635

Re: President-Elect Joe Biden and U.S. Politics Catch-All

Jill Biden :lol:

In her masters dissertation she said something stupid like "Three quarters of X are white and one quarter are poc. The remainder are Asian." Perhaps innumerate is a better description.
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:12 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

According to the CDC scenarios vaccinating the elderly averts 0.5-2% more deaths than vaccinating health care workers.

Them' s my workings. :thumbup:

Edit: that rises to between 2-6.5% more death averted depening on the timing of the intervention.
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So here's where the rubber hits the road in terma of woke politics driving policy. To vaccinate the elderly or key healthcare workers first. From the NYT: It’s a question increasingly guided by concerns over the inequities laid bare by the pandemic, from disproportionately high rates of infection a...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: ex-POTUS DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Replies: 126890
Views: 9056081

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

So here's where the rubber hits the road in terma of woke politics driving policy. To vaccinate the elderly or key healthcare workers first. From the NYT: It’s a question increasingly guided by concerns over the inequities laid bare by the pandemic, from disproportionately high rates of infection an...
by Santa
Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: Rugby Forum
Topic: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime
Replies: 540
Views: 41263

Re: The enormity of the Democrats' US Election crime

I don't recall saying that the main problem with the US electoral system was fraud.