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- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:56 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
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Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
There are inequities across numerous minority lines (sex, nationality, age, race and so on). By making it a single issue crusade with a completely nebulous aim, whilst simultaneously blaming the majority and trying to erase and simplistically judge a complex history, it is doomed to fail and I fear...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:54 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Le top XIV la Pro D2 les Fédérales.Le retour façon mir laine
- Replies: 24921
- Views: 1791120
Re: Le top XIV la Pro D2 les Fédérales.Le retour façon mir l
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/rugby/pro-d2/2019-2020/rachat-de-beziers-dominici-et-le-mysterieux-investisseur-a-la-surface-financiere-gigantesque_sto7749298/story.shtml Béziers is cursed : Dominici is a prick with a serious link to Laporte :vomit: :twisted: Yeah, please keep him. Last thing I want is Bé...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:51 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Long winded representation of my earlier highlighting the distinction between equality and equity. Only one of these is an act of reason.Insane_Homer wrote:
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:46 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
If the UK was rich before the slave trade then it is possible, probable even, that the infrastructure was build on wealth derived from other sources than the slave trade. Therefore any talk about residual benefits and reparations arising therefrom fall away. I don't think that works as a rebuttal s...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:11 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
I realise that, it was pretty tongue in cheek. The point I was making is does the great, great, great grandson of a slave deserve a pot of cash as compensation for his ancestors suffering? And slightly related, why the fudge should I have to pay? 1) Messy debate but I think there is a distinction t...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:09 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
I don't see that the question is relevant and even if it were, how anyone could provide a meaningful context, let alone then attribute a quant.Santa wrote:Begging the question. The historical question is this: was Britain rich before the Transatlantic slave trade? I think the answer is yes.
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:05 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Turn that logic around for a second. Saying “Black Lives Matter” doesn’t mean white lives don’t matter. Black Lives Matter protestors have something to campaign about because there is evidence of inherent bias in the structures of society. Does anyone have evidence of inherent bias against white pe...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:33 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
I realise that, it was pretty tongue in cheek. The point I was making is does the great, great, great grandson of a slave deserve a pot of cash as compensation for his ancestors suffering? And slightly related, why the fudge should I have to pay? 1) Messy debate but I think there is a distinction t...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:20 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Standard of living is pretty f**king high in the UK. You have it good. Free speech shouldn't be an excuse or lever to insinuate hate or xenophobic sentiment. It's precisely because the relative standard of living is so high that civil liberties have been on the decline for the last half century i.e...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:11 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
I realise that, it was pretty tongue in cheek. The point I was making is does the great, great, great grandson of a slave deserve a pot of cash as compensation for his ancestors suffering? And slightly related, why the fudge should I have to pay? 1) Messy debate but I think there is a distinction t...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:55 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
inactionman wrote:It's probably the effect of too many coffees before lunch, but I'm not sure if you're referring to Burnely's West Hameque defending or the halftime dambusters tribute entertainment.
Dambusters was May? I know wendyballers are generally thickies but......
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:49 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Will I be able to claim for my ancestors cleared off their land in the Highlands? Giving reparations for slavery is just a handout and who do you give it to? We have only just finished paying back the loan to liberate all slaves in the Empire. Not really the same thing. I know I'm simplifying but t...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:39 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Contradiction in terms?inactionman wrote: and as they act by consent of the public they need to tread the fine line of reasonably taking all people's considerations into account.
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:17 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
It's an impossible agenda.BokJock wrote: Why would wanting racial equality be a bad political agenda to have?
Why is it seen as a right and left thing unless the right....
What is needed and might be achievable is equity. Equality is only possible if you want an Aldous Huxley style society.
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:51 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
The curtailment of free speech is unlikely to be determined from the outcome of a single event.Margin_Walker wrote:Is it the monthly bedwetters anonymous meeting on here today?
Lets wait to see if anyone is charged and what with before proclaiming the death of free speech in this country.
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:39 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Standard of living is pretty f**king high in the UK. You have it good. Free speech shouldn't be an excuse or lever to insinuate hate or xenophobic sentiment. It's precisely because the relative standard of living is so high that civil liberties have been on the decline for the last half century i.e...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:11 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
This is being investigated by British Police ? Why is stating a fact, worthy of police investigation? Same reason the same Lancs constabulary was less enthusiastic about taking steps to prevent the Rochdale abuse scandal. If it wasn't already clear, policing is now a political football......... the...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:02 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Sure the prod profligacy in the bedroom is a given. It was ever thus with the breeding differentials. Nowadays in NI who tunes into the immigrant vote will do very well such is its increase over the last 10 years. We used to be a homogeneous white prod v catholic, but is getting more complex. You s...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:39 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
I agree with this. I read somewhere that the median wealth of a black household in the US is ten times less that the median white family. As a conservative fan boi, I would LOVE to extract the black vote from the left and getting money and property into their hands should be a way to do this. It wo...
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:16 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
“The club has a proud record of working with all genders, religions and faiths through its award-winning Community scheme, and stands against racism of any kind.
QED from my post above.
- Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:14 am
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Re: Burnley condemns white lives matter
Who would fly that plane? Why cause that much hassle for oneself I'll hazard a guess and say it's probably a fat white middle aged man with right wing political views. And there you go; which is why I posted it. Given the context, it's entirely reasonable to assume it's a reaction to all the BLM st...
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:54 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Burnley condemns white lives matter
- Replies: 1370
- Views: 71681
Burnley condemns white lives matter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201 https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/8C7A/production/_113026953_burnley_banner_getty.jpg "We apologise unreservedly to the Premier League, to Manchester City....in no way represents" what the club stands for...." One wonders how much more ...
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:48 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
- Replies: 27114
- Views: 2016270
Re: The Training Thread - all aspects of fitness and health
Twice my body weight although if gyms stay closed much longer..........feckwanker wrote:Had a squat session last Thursday: 5 x 8 @ 140kg.
Legs still aren't right after it.
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:49 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: CHAZ
- Replies: 47
- Views: 4032
Re: CHAZ
Capitol Hill has always been a no go area for normal people in Seattle I was always warned to stay away when I was in town I dont think it will end well either Am I being whooshed? Capitol Hill = Washington DC which is 2,500 miles from Seattle? Long taxi ride for a beer. LOL There is a Capitol Hill...
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: CHAZ
- Replies: 47
- Views: 4032
Re: CHAZ
Am I being whooshed?Winnie wrote:Capitol Hill has always been a no go area for normal people in Seattle
I was always warned to stay away when I was in town
I dont think it will end well either
Capitol Hill = Washington DC which is 2,500 miles from Seattle? Long taxi ride for a beer.
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Jayz, Tae has aged since I met him and became good close personal friends with in 2004 in London. Then again, so have I :? Jesus: was that the night we couldn't get a friggin' bus? Undies was with us? We’ve met ?! :shock: Yes. Unless there are 2 Marty Feldman look-a-like boardies. :twisted: Touché ...
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:22 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Jayz, Tae has aged since I met him and became good close personal friends with in 2004 in London. Then again, so have I :? Jesus: was that the night we couldn't get a friggin' bus? Undies was with us? We’ve met ?! :shock: Yes. Unless there are 2 Marty Feldman look-a-like boardies. :twisted:
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:16 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: CHAZ
- Replies: 47
- Views: 4032
Re: CHAZ
Surely we would all welcome a CHAV free zone?
We could call it the UK, perhaps.
We could call it the UK, perhaps.
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:13 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Jesus: was that the night we couldn't get a friggin' bus? Undies was with us?backrow wrote: Jayz, Tae has aged since I met him and became good close personal friends with in 2004 in London.
Then again, so have I
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:09 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Posting that photo cannot possibly be acceptable behaviour. :uhoh: Well we've seen it now. Who were the chaps pls ? Enzedder I know Which one is MuttonMong? Just so I know whom to avoid at the airport. Tae/Enz/Auckman/BBB/The Axe/Muttonmong. Merci {EDIT} :lol: Enz removed it. This place.
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:01 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Eh? You were being serious?Santa wrote:Ok.mr bungle wrote:It’s been posted numerous times before.iarmhiman wrote:Well we've seen it now.Santa wrote:Posting that photo cannot possibly be acceptable behaviour.
- Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:00 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Which one is MuttonMong? Just so I know whom to avoid at the airport.backrow wrote:Who were the chaps pls ? Enzedder I knowiarmhiman wrote:Well we've seen it now.Santa wrote:Posting that photo cannot possibly be acceptable behaviour.
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Uncle Ben Goooonnnnnnnnneeeeee!
- Replies: 190
- Views: 8488
Re: Uncle Ben Goooonnnnnnnnneeeeee!
That question doesn't even merit this response.Anonymous. wrote:Where is the outrage you talk of ?Torquemada 1420 wrote:If you are aiming that at me then you are conflating contempt for idiots with a political stance.Anonymous. wrote:It's funny how the words "upset" and "outrage" are being used by the right wingers on this thread
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:30 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Incident in Reading
- Replies: 289
- Views: 17583
Re: Incident in Reading
Agree, it's probably nothing to do with the people who lost their lives in Reading. Bad timing that she tweeted when the news was breaking. Sadly, she has such a reputation for edgy shit posting, I don't really blame some people, myself included, for thinking she was taking the piss. She tweeted it...
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Incident in Reading
- Replies: 289
- Views: 17583
Re: Incident in Reading
Diego wrote:I think this just may be the worst thread in PR history.
Not even past 1st round submissions.
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:21 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Incident in Reading
- Replies: 289
- Views: 17583
Re: Incident in Reading
What does that mean?mdaclarke wrote: It's times like then when we realise how much we need a strong police force
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:14 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Le top XIV la Pro D2 les Fédérales.Le retour façon mir laine
- Replies: 24921
- Views: 1791120
Re: Le top XIV la Pro D2 les Fédérales.Le retour façon mir l
YT. It was part of a thread where we were all mocking Bernol and had a go. Sadly I didn't take a copy of the thread itself and it went in the last PR purge.TheFrog wrote:Nice find Torque. Who had designed this?
Note Stade Francais had been relegated.
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:13 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Uncle Ben Goooonnnnnnnnneeeeee!
- Replies: 190
- Views: 8488
Re: Uncle Ben Goooonnnnnnnnneeeeee!
If you are aiming that at me then you are conflating contempt for idiots with a political stance.Anonymous. wrote:It's funny how the words "upset" and "outrage" are being used by the right wingers on this thread
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:29 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Incident in Reading
- Replies: 289
- Views: 17583
Re: Incident in Reading
ANyhows, I’ve managed to drive the proven racist Anon away, so I’m off to enjoy my Sunday . He didn’t seem to like the stat/ facts about the majority of knife crime being from BAME types that I quickly found. Suspect he’s gone away to spit on half the keys on his piano... :lol: You do know that bla...
- Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:28 pm
- Forum: Rugby Forum
- Topic: Hey Jake
- Replies: 251
- Views: 21708
Re: Hey Jake
Yeah. Said as much on the Top14 thread.JM2K6 wrote:I for one appreciate the sustained campaign to lessen the pain of the board closing tbh