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One for bimboman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kUuURByaXc Just started it. I wonder if Peterson pushes back on the exclusively materialist outlook of Pinker's claims. If anyone would, I would guess it would be him. We do need to talk about growing inequality, a la Piketty, though. We measure ou...

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Another way of putting it, from Vox: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/ ... liberalism

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Here's Taleb's article, for convenience: https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577 What we have been seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class...

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One for bimboman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kUuURByaXc Just started it. I wonder if Peterson pushes back on the exclusively materialist outlook of Pinker's claims. If anyone would, I would guess it would be him. We do need to talk about growing inequality, a la Piketty, though. We measure our...

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Today I was teaching some gender studies students about peer review, and how it is largely broken. I managed to start an open debate about how 'branch-stacking' in peer review is not a good thing, and saw a few sparks of realisation in the room. My good deed for the day. (Related to IYI).

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Blyth misses this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

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Here's Taleb's article, for convenience: https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577 What we have been seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class ...

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A year old, but new to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUqCrtg-wNY Blyth is one of my favourite political economists, who came to prominence during the Greece crisis. Yep, he’s very good :thumbup: Farking funny, too. I don't agree with his every word, but the man is one of the few commentators ...

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A year old, but new to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUqCrtg-wNY

Blyth is one of my favourite political economists, who came to prominence during the Greece crisis.

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Existential Comics ‏ @existentialcoms These right wing "self help" gurus are pretty surreal. They are like: 1. Exercise regularly. 2. Focus on concrete goals. 3. Find supportive friends. 4. Women are serpentine creatures that undermine society and must be tamed by a dominant will. 5. Stay hydrated....

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Watching that interview (and many of the others), you come to suspect that there has been a secret promise of a Nobel prize to the first person to land a significant blow on Peterson.

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unseenwork wrote:
I'm also not a fan of this 'shine your shoes, get a job' solution as to an extent I would see it as perpetuating this idea of the pursuit of power in order to gain access to women.

So you think we should redistribute the means of reproduction?

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What? You don't think I've been able to have good faith discussions over a long period, or you think I've shifted radically? I don't. I think the establishment left has. The left has moved a long, long way since the 90s, and they are no longer liberal in the traditional sense. I haven't budged sinc...

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Well thank you both...I try to flail impotently in the centre of the room as much as possible. Well, take it as a compliment while keeping in context just how woeful the left liberal performance has been in here over the years. Hey! I've mostly been willing to engage seriously with the ideas over t...

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Well thank you both...I try to flail impotently in the centre of the room as much as possible. Well, take it as a compliment while keeping in context just how woeful the left liberal performance has been in here over the years. Hey! I've mostly been willing to engage seriously with the ideas over t...

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Sure. Good chat. You're not quite as radically progressive as you sometimes suggest, on the evidence you've provided.

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The irony of the culture of dismissal of the wisdom acquired by years on earth is that those promoting it will fall victim to their own ideology at younger and younger ages. The cycles are becoming shorter and shorter, and it seems to me that the churn we are producing is inherently inhuman, and bi...

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One of the reasons I hold the positions I do, by the way, is that I love genuine cultural diversity. I see American cultural imperialism as a huge threat to that, and I see increasingly homogeneous cities across Europe and the world. I also see reactionary movements like radical Islam as a response...

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The irony of the culture of dismissal of the wisdom acquired by years on earth is that those promoting it will fall victim to their own ideology at younger and younger ages. The cycles are becoming shorter and shorter, and it seems to me that the churn we are producing is inherently inhuman, and bio...

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They may or may not be amoral, but I think they don't really understand, or reflect on, the consequences of change - my point is, that is the ideology of our time, and, unguided, the result is churn, rather than progress. AI is a good example. Sure, there are people warning us to be very, very care...

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They may or may not be amoral, but I think they don't really understand, or reflect on, the consequences of change - my point is, that is the ideology of our time, and, unguided, the result is churn, rather than progress. AI is a good example. Sure, there are people warning us to be very, very care...

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Fair enough. I tend to agree with Peterson that progress is only truly progress if it actually improves social outcomes. Otherwise it's not progress, it's churn. The failure to appreciate that does appear to be a central part of the zeitgeist - seen also in the attempt to lionise youth and denigrat...

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So anyone care to summarise what Peterson was saying on enforced monogamy - I hadn't seen or heard anything on it until now, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything I could agree with. It sounds like a regressive answer to a problem, that focuses on men at the expense of women. What was he try...

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Perhaps it was. Please refer to my statements about what I view as Peterson's contempt for unguided progressivism from previous pages. Sure - I was only trying to explain why I see him as slightly right rather than left. I wasn't trying to say he was wrong (although I certainly don't agree based on...

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Perhaps it was. Please refer to my statements about what I view as Peterson's contempt for unguided progressivism from previous pages. Sure - I was only trying to explain why I see him as slightly right rather than left. I wasn't trying to say he was wrong (although I certainly don't agree based on...

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So anyone care to summarise what Peterson was saying on enforced monogamy - I hadn't seen or heard anything on it until now, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything I could agree with. It sounds like a regressive answer to a problem, that focuses on men at the expense of women. What was he try...

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No, I'm referring to your exchange with Seneca, which you are addressing now. I found it very, very strange. The discussion Sen and I are having has little to do with interpretations of Peterson, my initial post that he replied to was directed at english chiefs comments. As for language, I think Se...

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Seneca or Ponti could perhaps correct me if I’m wrong but put bluntly I think it’s something like this. A few Chads go around scoring all the women. It’s made easier through apps etc. Lower status, less attractive women will now not deign to be with a man of their (lower) status, but rather be an e...

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So anyone care to summarise what Peterson was saying on enforced monogamy - I hadn't seen or heard anything on it until now, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything I could agree with. It sounds like a regressive answer to a problem, that focuses on men at the expense of women. What was he try...

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I've noticed things like this a few times on this thread (above with UncleFB). It seems Peterson has the authoritarian extremists so frothing at the mouth that they are no longer able to read and understand basic English sentences. Why they think we would trust their interpretation of his statement...

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Seneca or Ponti could perhaps correct me if I’m wrong but put bluntly I think it’s something like this. A few Chads go around scoring all the women. It’s made easier through apps etc. Lower status, less attractive women will now not deign to be with a man of their (lower) status, but rather be an e...

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If you take responsibility for yourself you aren't using their standard set of oppressions/excuses to not try and do better day by day You are getting shit done for yourself, making better personal choices and not waiting for the government to make your world better for you It simply doesn't fit in...

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So anyone care to summarise what Peterson was saying on enforced monogamy - I hadn't seen or heard anything on it until now, and it certainly doesn't sound like anything I could agree with. It sounds like a regressive answer to a problem, that focuses on men at the expense of women. What was he try...

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I'd hang the DJ, that's for sure.

Cities themselves are now such a central component of our culture that almost everything about our mass culture is urban, and perhaps as a result, increasingly generic.

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So many apologists for Peterson's on-the-spectrum clumsiness. That after all is what his defenders claim it is, rather than dead set conservative nostalgia. It's not Peterson's clumsiness, as is made clear in his response, but the journalist's(') deliberate incomprehension, and probably ignorance. ...

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One comment from the Peterson defense of his Handmaid's Tale proposal that I liked: The NYT author does not care about facts, they care about opinion and how to manipulate it. This is just one more attack vector. As a side note, if there is any subject area that you know a great deal about, go and ...

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One of the reasons I hold the positions I do, by the way, is that I love genuine cultural diversity. I see American cultural imperialism as a huge threat to that, and I see increasingly homogeneous cities across Europe and the world. I also see reactionary movements like radical Islam as a response...

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If you take responsibility for yourself you aren't using their standard set of oppressions/excuses to not try and do better day by day You are getting shit done for yourself, making better personal choices and not waiting for the government to make your world better for you It simply doesn't fit in...

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One comment from the Peterson defense of his Handmaid's Tale proposal that I liked: The NYT author does not care about facts, they care about opinion and how to manipulate it. This is just one more attack vector. As a side note, if there is any subject area that you know a great deal about, go and l...

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A brief JP response to the NYT article https://jordanbpeterson.com/media/on-the-new-york-times-and-enforced-monogamy/ :lol: Good to see he's back-peddaled from his earlier statements to the NYT reporter. As for quoting a reddit user in his defence, I hope he's paying that user a handsome sum. If it...

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