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The Scots, the new Irish for some.

Imagine being a Scot and a millionnaire who lived in a big house as a child and had an entrepreneur parent.
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Apparently Nicola has unveiled her new Coronavirus strapline for easing the lockdown - "McStay Alert"

She is more likely to use a strapon according to news about a super injunction ;)


I've heard reference to this rumour.


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Cummings also wanted the lock down earlier than it was called but was overruled. I really want to see those minutes of the meetings between the 4 CMOs as to why quarantine didn't happen earlier.
Maybe that's why Blackford has come out shooting?


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


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Don't know about any of the other jocks on here but I'm just delighted that Boris is not actually our PM. Popping the champagne as we speak.



Admittedly only a Surrey Highlander but that seems short -sighted to me esp. when the alternative was Corbyn or your equally incompetent leader whose nickname at School was seaweed as not even the tide would take her out. :lol:


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


The remoaners and the metro-socialist bubble are working themselves up into a big, steaming, creamy lather on twatter. There is no room for the truth here.


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:

The government loses more respect and confidence by the electorate. The SAGE government body becomes a laughing stock due to Commings breaking rank and ignoring health and safely protocols. He’s supposed to be a role model to the public after all, a key member of SAGE.


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:

The government loses more respect and confidence by the electorate. The SAGE government body becomes a laughing stock due to Commings breaking rank and ignoring health and safely protocols. He’s supposed to be a role model to the public after all, a key member of SAGE.


:lol:


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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:

The government loses more respect and confidence by the electorate. The SAGE government body becomes a laughing stock due to Commings breaking rank and ignoring health and safely protocols. He’s supposed to be a role model to the public after all, a key member of SAGE.


:lol:

At a minimum he should be charged and given a court hearing to prove his innocence.

Beside all that, if you take off your Tory tinted blinkers (which I know is impossible), you would agree it was a disgraceful action to drive 250 miles (roundtrip) to visit his parents while infected with Covid-19. Why not the rest of you guys just follow suit and ignore the travel distance restrictions.


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YOYO wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:

The government loses more respect and confidence by the electorate. The SAGE government body becomes a laughing stock due to Commings breaking rank and ignoring health and safely protocols. He’s supposed to be a role model to the public after all, a key member of SAGE.


:lol:

At a minimum he should be charged and given a court hearing to prove this innocence.

Beside all that, if you take off your Tory tinted blinkers (which I know is impossible), you would agree it was a disgraceful action to drive 250 miles (roundtrip) to visit his parents while infected with Covid-19. Why not the rest of you guys just follow suit and ignore the travel distance restrictions.



Charged with what exactly?


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YOYO wrote:
message #2527204 wrote:
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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.

:lol:

The government loses more respect and confidence by the electorate. The SAGE government body becomes a laughing stock due to Commings breaking rank and ignoring health and safely protocols. He’s supposed to be a role model to the public after all, a key member of SAGE.


:lol:

At a minimum he should be charged and given a court hearing to prove his innocence.

Beside all that, if you take off your Tory tinted blinkers (which I know is impossible), you would agree it was a disgraceful action to drive 250 miles (roundtrip) to visit his parents while infected with Covid-19. Why not the rest of you guys just follow suit and ignore the travel distance restrictions.


In the same situation I would have done exactly the same thing. The law is an ass. Take your metro-bubble glasses off and see it for what it is, and not what you desperately want it to be.


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eldanielfire wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Version released by No. 10 this morning is that he wasn't actually ill at the time. Just suspected he may become ill because she was.


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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Wow. That's a load of people - you forgot the nurses, doctors, cleaners, porters, bus drivers etc Was he driving? Maybe he wore a bandana mask?


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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone



Or his wife who isolated with him drove.


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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Version released by No. 10 this morning is that he wasn't actually ill at the time. Just suspected he may become ill because she was.


The timeline I heard said he'd already told his wife he wasn't feeling well. Also what do they mean by ill, do they mean he wasn't feeling tip top, or that he wasn't evidencing a raking cough?

Also if he wasn't feeling well then just keep the child and look after it. Sure there'd be a concern he'd become ill, but taking the child to his sister's was merely a risk his sister would become unwell. If his story was at some point in the future someone might become unwell in a pandemic then this entire new explanation from No.10 is full of shit


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YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Wow. That's a load of people - you forgot the nurses, doctors, cleaners, porters, bus drivers etc Was he driving? Maybe he wore a bandana mask?


Either was driving whilst ill, or his wife was driving whilst ill, or they'd brought another person inside their bubble. Though the later does remove some of the risks I noted.


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Though I think he should go, that he’s driving all the right people bonkers is great value.


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piquant wrote:
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piquant wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Wow. That's a load of people - you forgot the nurses, doctors, cleaners, porters, bus drivers etc Was he driving? Maybe he wore a bandana mask?


Either was driving whilst ill, or his wife was driving whilst ill, or they'd brought another person inside their bubble. Though the later does remove some of the risks I noted.


He want ill, she was. So I guess it was fine, then..Apart from the bus driver.


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Yougov poll is struggling to get over 50% saying he should resign.
I'd say that's a positive sign for Boris.


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Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


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Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


Durham police, via the grauniad and mirror, are suggesting that downing street is lying.


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Few more details this morning -
-small number of people in No 10 knew that Cummings had gone to Durham, not stayed in London -seems it was his sister who had offered to help with childcare when he and his wife fell ill
-family stayed in separate house + had no contact in the end


I reckon he rides it out.


No, knowing he was infected, they drove through pretty much the whole of England. The guidance is STAY AT HOME. They should have got the sister to collect, then stayed where they were.
Everything else is weasley words.

When someone who went to crowded pubs on paddy's day contrary to government advice starts putting the boot in, you know you're on shakey ground



*the crowd gasps*


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YOYO wrote:
Surely Cummings has to go. It he isn’t sacked it will be a huge kick in the face of integrity.


Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Wow. That's a load of people - you forgot the nurses, doctors, cleaners, porters, bus drivers etc Was he driving? Maybe he wore a bandana mask?


Either was driving whilst ill, or his wife was driving whilst ill, or they'd brought another person inside their bubble. Though the later does remove some of the risks I noted.


It is not just that he has done pretty much exactly what you shouldn't do in a disease outbreak. He has gone while infected from a region with a large outbreak to a region with small outbreak. If his child was with him and he was going to get child care help from relatives then he was increasing the likelihood of them getting it. Ferguson at least has the defence that he has had it and was recovered, therefore, not a spreader any more. One rule for masses another for his lordship.

Fcuk this i'm in region with low outbreak levels and the peak is well past i see no need to obey this lockdown anymore.


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At a minimum he should be charged and given a court hearing to prove this innocence.

Beside all that, if you take off your Tory tinted blinkers (which I know is impossible), you would agree it was a disgraceful action to drive 250 miles (roundtrip) to visit his parents while infected with Covid-19. Why not the rest of you guys just follow suit and ignore the travel distance restrictions.



Charged with what exactly?

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Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


Durham police, via the grauniad and mirror, are suggesting that downing street is lying.

And Sky News. Are you saying that PM Boris Johnson and the Tory party haven’t lied before?

Not sure if the governments spin doctor the BBC has reported the same. I very much doubt it.


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All the right people making up stories. It’s great.


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YOYO wrote:
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Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


Durham police, via the grauniad and mirror, are suggesting that downing street is lying.

And Sky News. Are you saying that PM Boris Johnson and the Tory party haven’t lied before?

Not sure if the governments spin doctor the BBC has reported the same. I very much doubt it.

Anyone?

It seems just the BBC aren’t reporting this.

You guys must be big fans of Laura Kuenssberg.


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YOYO wrote:
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YOYO wrote:
Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


Durham police, via the grauniad and mirror, are suggesting that downing street is lying.

And Sky News. Are you saying that PM Boris Johnson and the Tory party haven’t lied before?

Not sure if the governments spin doctor the BBC has reported the same. I very much doubt it.

Anyone?

It seems just the BBC aren’t reporting this.

You guys must be big fans of Laura Kuenssberg.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Bastards


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The inner circle come out in support. Gove was first out of the traps earlier
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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab tweeted: "It's reasonable and fair to ask for an explanation on this.
"And it has been provided: two parents with coronavirus, were anxiously taking care of their young child.
"Those now seeking to politicise it should take a long hard look in the mirror."
Chancellor Rishi Sunak took a similar view in his tweet: "Taking care of your wife and young child is justifiable and reasonable, trying to score political points over it isn't."

The outer circle not so much
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Cummings has few friends among rank&file Tory MPs. One tells me: “I won't be lifting a finger to defend him. The radio silence on the Tory MP WhatsApp group since the story broke is pretty telling. The issue is he's increasingly becoming the story. The cardinal sin of any SpAd."

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“How can any government minister, or MP for that matter, ask the public to obey by the rules when the advisor most closest to the prime minister so flagrantly ignores them? It’s hard to see how he can stay based on what we know.”


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You leave Dommie alone, he's a good bloke he is
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Trying too hard, you need a better wingman than YOYO.


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You leave Dommie alone, he's a good bloke he is.


Wonderful hair, and nice shapely legs, they say.


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YOYO wrote:
YOYO wrote:
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YOYO wrote:
Downing Street are saying nobody related to Mr Cummings was spoken to by police. Durham Police confirmed they spoke to the owners of a property on 31 March - a week after the prime minister imposed the lockdown. This means that the Government are suggesting that Durham police are lying.


Durham police, via the grauniad and mirror, are suggesting that downing street is lying.

And Sky News. Are you saying that PM Boris Johnson and the Tory party haven’t lied before?

Not sure if the governments spin doctor the BBC has reported the same. I very much doubt it.

Anyone?

It seems just the BBC aren’t reporting this.

You guys must be big fans of Laura Kuenssberg.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Bastards


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Depends, if his version of events turns out to be true, or at least can't be proven untrue. Also the lockdown is over, will the public outside of those engaged politically really care right now?


His version of events is whilst so ill he was prone to collapsing he drove over 200 miles putting his life, his child's life and other road users' lives at risk. And in the event he'd been in a crash/accident or simply had a malfunction he was willing to risk the driver of the recovery vehicle, the police, any ambulance/fire crew required who turned up to find someone massively symptomatic travelling well outside his home to spread the virus

He's either a selfish arsehole, thick as shit, or both. Any level of moral decency would see him long gone


Wow. That's a load of people - you forgot the nurses, doctors, cleaners, porters, bus drivers etc Was he driving? Maybe he wore a bandana mask?


Either was driving whilst ill, or his wife was driving whilst ill, or they'd brought another person inside their bubble. Though the later does remove some of the risks I noted.


It is not just that he has done pretty much exactly what you shouldn't do in a disease outbreak. He has gone while infected from a region with a large outbreak to a region with small outbreak. If his child was with him and he was going to get child care help from relatives then he was increasing the likelihood of them getting it. Ferguson at least has the defence that he has had it and was recovered, therefore, not a spreader any more. One rule for masses another for his lordship.

Fcuk this i'm in region with low outbreak levels and the peak is well past i see no need to obey this lockdown anymore.


This is why we should weld people into buildings.


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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 12:48 pm 
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He want ill, she was. So I guess it was fine, then..Apart from the bus driver.


Define he wasn't ill? Do you mean he wasn't symptomatic? At minimum he'd been exposed and would fall into the category wherein one might think you should be isolating, not driving the length of the country. Also whilst one might want to claim he didn't know he was ill he did collapse, which suggests he was ill, which is kinda why we were and are being told to isolate not travel.

And this is important because the government will be asking people to isolate if they're going to get a track and trace programme up and running, there's no sodding point if it becomes a track and travel programme


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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 12:49 pm 
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The inner circle come out in support. Gove was first out of the traps earlier
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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab tweeted: "It's reasonable and fair to ask for an explanation on this.
"And it has been provided: two parents with coronavirus, were anxiously taking care of their young child.
"Those now seeking to politicise it should take a long hard look in the mirror."
Chancellor Rishi Sunak took a similar view in his tweet: "Taking care of your wife and young child is justifiable and reasonable, trying to score political points over it isn't."

The outer circle not so much
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Cummings has few friends among rank&file Tory MPs. One tells me: “I won't be lifting a finger to defend him. The radio silence on the Tory MP WhatsApp group since the story broke is pretty telling. The issue is he's increasingly becoming the story. The cardinal sin of any SpAd."

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“How can any government minister, or MP for that matter, ask the public to obey by the rules when the advisor most closest to the prime minister so flagrantly ignores them? It’s hard to see how he can stay based on what we know.”

Of course they are. The last thing the inner circle want is a vengeful Cummings as i'm sure he has shit on all of them.


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OhNo wrote:
This is why we should weld people into buildings.

I could think of a few who should be


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