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grievous wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:36 pm
towny wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:13 pm
grievous wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:39 pm
Bindi wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:17 am
towny wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:00 am

Toomua perhaps deserves some blame but the Rebels backline is a shower of shit. On one wing they have an international scrum half. On the bench they have Jeral Skelton as a substitute back - of course he's a backrower. Other than MK and Toomua, there is no one with the ability to create anything. Pincus, Anderson, Ili....... now I see why Rebels' fans were so keen on that imposter, Meakes. The Rebels' recruitment is bizarre. Great front row stocks, but they Leota playing in the second row? Amazing back row stocks, but they have a scrum half starting on one wing and a flanker covering the backs from the bench? Most of their starting backline players wouldn't get close to the Reds' or Brumbies' squads - dudes like Pincus and Anderson shouldn't be professional.

Jonny Wilkinson would struggle to look competent in this shower of shit organisation. Wessels has to go.
Those long loopy passes are Toomua and Toomua alone. He's just not that good. Tries hard though. Like that Brumbies player we used to have at 12 five or so year's ago who was so plain I can't even be bothered to recall his name.
But JOC threw an intercept tonight.
Wessels showed such promise once but they have lost a lot of talent, hard rugby town Melbourne.
What talent did the Rebels lose?

They signed 50 backrowers and no backs. Wessels looked good when he had a heap of young stars that could grind out the odd win. But in all his years he’s achieved so little and wouldn’t know talent if it shat on his chest.

This is the guy that told Paisami he wouldn’t cut it in Super Rugby but persevered with journeymen like English and Meakes. He couldn’t coach cows to eat grass.
Oh you are hurt again about Beibs the wonder boy who fvcked his career by hanging out at Burger King at 4am. Are you that Qkeenland?
Wessels has made mistakes but refer to every other coach in the last 10 years.
Please list the 50 back rowers you have referred to or go an play in the Swedish snow
I’m guessing you’re blind drunk. There’s no other reason why I can imagine you’d post this in response to what I posted. I hate hangovers so hopefully you wake up without one in the morning.

Rebels backrow is good. They started the latest game with Kemeny, Hardwick and Wells. All solid super rugby players - Kemeny got a deserved call up to the Wallaby squad and Hardwick has a cap.

Isi Naisirani is due back soon. He’s more than handy - I’m sure you’ll agree. Brad Wilkin is a very good openside and he can’t make the current squad. Jeral Skelton is a gun backrower from Randwick who’s now playing in the backs while backrower Rob Leota has now become the world’s shortest lock. Ross Haylett-Petty is the other is throw in there; however he’s played lock for the last couple of years so perhaps he’s more a hybrid. No one would ever confuse him with a specialist lock.

So, that’s 8 backrowers. All have ‘backrower’ listed as their position on the club website. Meanwhile, they have 3 locks - Hosea, Cummins and the Argie, who they signed the month before the comp started.

Think about that - they prepared for a super rugby season with 2 locks.

It’s moronic. It’ll make sense when and if you sober up.
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Mertos pick from the 40 man PONI squad

1. Slipper
2. Mafi
3. Tupou
4. Neville
5. LSL
6. Valetini
7. McReight
8. Wilson
9. White
10. JOC
11. Korobiete
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Wright
15. Banks

16. Longeran
17. Bell
18. Nrma
19. Uru
20. Samu
21. Gordon
22. Toomua
23. Vunivalu

I don't hate it.
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A few quibbles, but I don’t hate it either.
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I don’t hate it but I’d definitely have Petaia and Hosea in there ahead of Vunivalu and Neville.

Also prefer Lolesio over Toomua but I can see the value of the old, hard bastard.
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Could Uru be “The White Samo”TM?
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towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 am Could Uru be “The White Samo”TM?
That’s awful. GTFO
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shanky wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:39 am
towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 am Could Uru be “The White Samo”TM?
That’s awful. GTFO
I heard someone else say it. It sucks. I was just seeing if you guys agreed with me and seems that you do. Which is good.
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Uru looks the goods but not sure if you need him and LSL in the same 23. Hosea has surely earned his spot and the return of both Philip and Rodda will stiffen comp for second row spots.
Tate ahead of Gordon.
Petaia on the pine. He offers cover at 12-15.
Lonergan is too small for a test hooker. I’d start BPA with Mafi on the bench.

Slipper has been better at TH than on the loose side lately. Just an observation. Brumbies scrum was outplayed last night
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towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 am I don’t hate it but I’d definitely have Petaia and Hosea in there ahead of Vunivalu and Neville.

Also prefer Lolesio over Toomua but I can see the value of the old, hard bastard.
I'd have Neville over LSL, but Hosea has been the goods, deserves a shot.

Toomua is worth it for a post match interview.

Petaia certainly adds impact, I've not seen anything from Vunivalu yet that suggests he's ready for test matches.
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towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:58 am
shanky wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:39 am
towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 am Could Uru be “The White Samo”TM?
That’s awful. GTFO
I heard someone else say it. It sucks. I was just seeing if you guys agreed with me and seems that you do. Which is good.
I’m beginning to doubt whether you’re capable of coming up with a registered classic like TheCaboose.

:| :?:
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LSL will be the first picked if he sorts his discipline issues out, which he seems to have done. I've come around to the JP at 15 call.

1. Slipper
2. BPA (so what if he's leaving)
3. Tupou
4. Philip
5. LSL
6. Valetini
7. Hooper
8. Wilson
9. White
10. JOC
11. MK
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Wright
15. Petaia
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Petaia at 15? Maybe if he plays a single game there.
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How good is MK, eh?

We will miss him.
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Bindi wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:05 am LSL will be the first picked if he sorts his discipline issues out, which he seems to have done. I've come around to the JP at 15 call.

1. Slipper
2. BPA (so what if he's leaving)
3. Tupou
4. Philip
5. LSL
6. Valetini
7. Hooper
8. Wilson
9. White
10. JOC
11. MK
12. Paisami
13. Ikitau
14. Wright
15. Petaia
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I could live with that.
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Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:12 am Petaia at 15? Maybe if he plays a single game there.
Minor detail.
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Just checked Ikitau's attacking stats from last night and they were dire. Maybe not an automatic selection for 13. Hopefully an aberration.

0 passes, 2 runs for 6m, 2 defenders beaten, 0 clean breaks.

Flook for comparison:

0 passes, 7 runs for 75m, 5 defenders beaten, 2 clean breaks.
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Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 am Mertos pick from the 40 man PONI squad
Is Mertos, Mehrts?
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mr bungle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:37 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 am Mertos pick from the 40 man PONI squad
Is Mertos, Mehrts?
Now he is a fully fleged fair dinkum Aussie he's now known as Merto
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Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 am
mr bungle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:37 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 am Mertos pick from the 40 man PONI squad
Is Mertos, Mehrts?
Now he is a fully fleged fair dinkum Aussie he's now known as Merto
That is perfectly acceptable, although could probably do with the addition of an 'h'. Really just confirming you weren't referring to that dipshit Marto.
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mr bungle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 am
mr bungle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:37 am
Zakar wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:08 am Mertos pick from the 40 man PONI squad
Is Mertos, Mehrts?
Now he is a fully fleged fair dinkum Aussie he's now known as Merto
That is perfectly acceptable, although could probably do with the addition of an 'h'. Really just confirming you weren't referring to that dipshit Marto.
That's fair feedback. Mehrto it is.
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shanky wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:13 am How good is MK, eh?

We will miss him.
We will but we do have a log jam of test class wingers ATM. What is Australian rugby trying to do to MK having him on the wing in a side that virtually never gets the ball wider than 12?
I bet he cant wait to get out of there.
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Petaia could be our best 15 for a very long time, maybe ever. If thats the plan then playing him on the wing for now is good, maybe giving him some time at 15 late in test matches when possible.
The guy has aerial skills, kicking skills, speed and positional awareness. Folau with actual fullback skills?

Watch the reds post game presser from last night

https://youtu.be/PGNHIP77GlY
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Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 am

Watch the reds post game presser from last night

https://youtu.be/PGNHIP77GlY
Holy smoke, the first couple of 'questions' from the first journo x(
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Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 am Petaia could be our best 15 for a very long time, maybe ever. If thats the plan then playing him on the wing for now is good, maybe giving him some time at 15 late in test matches when possible.
The guy has aerial skills, kicking skills, speed and positional awareness. Folau with actual fullback skills?

Watch the reds post game presser from last night

https://youtu.be/PGNHIP77GlY
15 it is. Thorn and JOC are on board.
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mr bungle wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:53 am
Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 am

Watch the reds post game presser from last night

https://youtu.be/PGNHIP77GlY
Holy smoke, the first couple of 'questions' from the first journo x(
Who are these people??

BT is such a class act. The Reds have so much talent, but BT has created such a great culture at the club. I think there are plenty of better coaches in the game, but I would not swap BT for anyone.
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Bindi wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:28 am
Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:49 am Petaia could be our best 15 for a very long time, maybe ever. If thats the plan then playing him on the wing for now is good, maybe giving him some time at 15 late in test matches when possible.
The guy has aerial skills, kicking skills, speed and positional awareness. Folau with actual fullback skills?

Watch the reds post game presser from last night

https://youtu.be/PGNHIP77GlY
15 it is. Thorn and JOC are on board.
Brumbieman has been saying this ages and I called him a clown. I think I'm locked into Latho 2.0 at 15...

I really like Wright and MK and I LOVE Petaia. If I can work out a way to spin this without losing face.... Choo choo!
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Who is playing well but not in the 40 man PONI?

- Fotuaiki gave AAA a touch up last night. Lots of talk about the THP boring in, but Fotuaiki was giving AAA a hard time on the other side. Once the THP was literally split from his hooker - something I haven't seen since Sheridan defiled the Wobs in the 2007 RWC quarter final. Maybe wahface Brumbies' fans will say that both Reds' props were boring in? I'm a big fan of Slipper and Bell, but Fotuaiki must be next in line on the left side.

- BPA and Mafi are the two best hookers in the country atm and should play every Wallaby test, at least until BPA goes overseas and/or Uelese finds his form and/or Latu (a.k.a. "Papillion") busts out of France and finds his way home. Porecki is a nothing player and wee Lonergan is part of a scrum that is getting made look like juggaloes.

Anyone else?
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I say break Latu out and send him to Betty Ford for a spell.
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Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:29 am I say break Latu out and send him to Betty Ford for a spell.
I like how you think. Presumably Betty Ford is the new name for Brad Thorn?
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‘Papillon’

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towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:07 am
Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:29 am I say break Latu out and send him to Betty Ford for a spell.
I like how you think. Presumably Betty Ford is the new name for Brad Thorn?
The Betty Ford Clinic is an addiction rehab centre in the USA. There must be equivalent programs available here? Handing him over to BT might be a little OTT. Maybe we just hire him a car with driver?
I see hooker as an issue. If Uelese can get off his arse and play to his potential it would be great but he doesn’t seem to be angry enough? Latu can fill the hole.
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Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:56 am
towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:07 am
Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:29 am I say break Latu out and send him to Betty Ford for a spell.
I like how you think. Presumably Betty Ford is the new name for Brad Thorn?
The Betty Ford Clinic is an addiction rehab centre in the USA. There must be equivalent programs available here? Handing him over to BT might be a little OTT. Maybe we just hire him a car with driver?
I see hooker as an issue. If Uelese can get off his arse and play to his potential it would be great but he doesn’t seem to be angry enough? Latu can fill the hole.
I was trying to be funny, but I appreciate the kind explanation anyway. I actually think BT is exactly the guy that would get the best out of Uelese and Latu. He doesn’t compromise and it looks like his players reach their potential.

It can be frustrating. Reds likely would have played finals footy the first year he coached - but they had to battle on without a flyhalf because Quade didn’t fit in the plans. Rodda didn’t either and he ended up leaving the Reds very short on locks. But BT isn’t focused on short term success if it in any way compromises the culture he’s building. Now he’s got a team of superstars, but only one came for big money - the rest are redemption stories, blokes looking for a break or talent that’s come out of the system BT and co have created.

I think it was BT that said:
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
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I am a bit worried about the style of play that Wilson is playing for the Reds...trucking it up head first into contact time after time will not work for us against the Darkness.
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wamberal wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:03 pm I am a bit worried about the style of play that Wilson is playing for the Reds...trucking it up head first into contact time after time will not work for us against the Darkness.
That was his best game this year, but I agree. Against the ABs I think he should take on the wide running role that Samu has at the Brumbies.
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It’s probably a good time to extend an olive branch to Latu? The Tahs could use him. Maybe send him down to Melbourne to school Uelese in bodily harm?
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towny wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:16 pm
wamberal wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:03 pm I am a bit worried about the style of play that Wilson is playing for the Reds...trucking it up head first into contact time after time will not work for us against the Darkness.
That was his best game this year, but I agree. Against the ABs I think he should take on the wide running role that Samu has at the Brumbies.
There is also the question of longevity in the game. Concussion etc.
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Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 pm It’s probably a good time to extend an olive branch to Latu? The Tahs could use him. Maybe send him down to Melbourne to school Uelese in bodily harm?
Latu doesn't need an olive branch. He needs to join AA.
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Thomas wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:42 am
Olo wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 pm It’s probably a good time to extend an olive branch to Latu? The Tahs could use him. Maybe send him down to Melbourne to school Uelese in bodily harm?
Latu doesn't need an olive branch. He needs to join AA.
You can wrap both up in the same bundle? We don’t need him to be a Saint, just keep him out of jail for the next couple of years.
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Petaia @ 15. He is horrible under the high ball... no composure at all. I thought you guys watched rugby :x

Watching Jpn League on wknd, Sean McMahon and Kerevi :o Aus Rugby could use them.
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