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News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
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I thought this was going to be about the destructive effects of wind turbines.
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guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Rejected by CBS records and Clive James as 'knowing nothing about Rock music'......... 40 million copies later.....Ouch.!!!
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The Sun God wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:36 am
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Rejected by CBS records and Clive James as 'knowing nothing about Rock music'......... 40 million copies later.....Ouch.!!!
40 million copies of overblown crap. Nearly Led Zep levels of awfulness.
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koroke hangareka wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:43 am
The Sun God wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:36 am
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Rejected by CBS records and Clive James as 'knowing nothing about Rock music'......... 40 million copies later.....Ouch.!!!
40 million copies of overblown crap. Nearly Led Zep levels of awfulness.
He worked his formula, the big numbers all sound like reworked versions of each other. But he mastered how to make them unique enough and powerful for the masses of the day. Fun for some drunken karaoke. Total Eclipse of the Heart, ftw.
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Ugh.
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koroke hangareka wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:05 am Ugh.
I didn’t say I liked it. Drunken karaoke is hardly a show of keen support for an artist.
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guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
RIP!

I loved his epic gothic-Rock-Opera style of music he did with Meatloaf. I'd do anything for Love (But I won't do that) is amazing.
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koroke hangareka wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:43 am
The Sun God wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:36 am
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Rejected by CBS records and Clive James as 'knowing nothing about Rock music'......... 40 million copies later.....Ouch.!!!
40 million copies of overblown crap. Nearly Led Zep levels of awfulness.
The music is purely a question of taste. The financial success is beyond dispute.
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guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Live version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wb8qHgK9kw

Or the Angelina Jolie version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Iay1J87x4
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The Sun God wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:38 am
koroke hangareka wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:43 am
The Sun God wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:36 am
guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:00 am News today that Jim Steinman has passed...

Jim who?

Only the bloke that wrote Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell along with an absolute plethora of hits for others.

RIP, rockgod...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqhc9Id-Os
Rejected by CBS records and Clive James as 'knowing nothing about Rock music'......... 40 million copies later.....Ouch.!!!
40 million copies of overblown crap. Nearly Led Zep levels of awfulness.
The music is purely a question of taste. The financial success is beyond dispute.
And in other news...
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I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
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It turns out he was about 63 when that pic was taken

Holy shit. Ozzy would be proud :shock:
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He hardly aged a bit...

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Funny story. I went to see Meatloaf while in the States

Me and about 5,000 regular Americans turned up hoping to see a greatest-hits, good-natured gig in a country town.

Boy, were we in for a shock! He refused to play any of that, preferring (instead) to focus on his new Arthouse material...

After 90 mins of this drivel he reluctantly played Bat and then left the stage without encore


Plum.
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Artists...

pfffft
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guy smiley wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:11 pm Artists...

pfffft
If he’d advertised it as ‘Meatloaf plays his new solo album’, then me and the 5,000 armed, pick-up driving locals spending our Friday night $50, might have had a more generous outlook on proceedings.
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Well, he wrote the song from the greatest ever performance on Old Grey Whistle Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U

So fair f*cks to Jim Steinman !
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My old man was/is a big fan.

Doing a shallow dive into Wiki I came across this description of the Steinman/Meatloaf music genre

Wagnerian Rock :nod:

Very apt.
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shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:48 pm I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
The Bee Gees wrote a lot of great music. I've never quite got the whole music snobbery with any artist/group in the past who wrote great tunes but where put down for not being cool/edgy/formed in a garage.
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4Bags wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:59 pm Well, he wrote the song from the greatest ever performance on Old Grey Whistle Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcEVkfuZ9U

So fair f*cks to Jim Steinman !
What I always remember about that was the performance of Karla devito... unbelievable live vocals.
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shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:03 pm Funny story. I went to see Meatloaf while in the States

Me and about 5,000 regular Americans turned up hoping to see a greatest-hits, good-natured gig in a country town.

Boy, were we in for a shock! He refused to play any of that, preferring (instead) to focus on his new Arthouse material...

After 90 mins of this drivel he reluctantly played Bat and then left the stage without encore


Plum.
At least I got to see him perform properly at Wembley Arena about 15 years ago.

Well, eventually - he collapsed with a Heart Attack during the first show.
Came back 6 months later and did it properly - including a 25ft high giant inflatable bat!
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:55 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:48 pm I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
The Bee Gees wrote a lot of great music. I've never quite got the whole music snobbery with any artist/group in the past who wrote great tunes but where put down for not being cool/edgy/formed in a garage.


Oh this all over.

Especially Meat Loaf who was brilliant live.

The Bee Gees wrote brilliant music for fun though and covered 4 decades.
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Yer Man wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:28 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:03 pm Funny story. I went to see Meatloaf while in the States

Me and about 5,000 regular Americans turned up hoping to see a greatest-hits, good-natured gig in a country town.

Boy, were we in for a shock! He refused to play any of that, preferring (instead) to focus on his new Arthouse material...

After 90 mins of this drivel he reluctantly played Bat and then left the stage without encore


Plum.
At least I got to see him perform properly at Wembley Arena about 15 years ago.

Well, eventually - he collapsed with a Heart Attack during the first show.
Came back 6 months later and did it properly - including a 25ft high giant inflatable bat!
Jaysus.

That’s hardcore. :lol:
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bimboman wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:55 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:48 pm I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
The Bee Gees wrote a lot of great music. I've never quite got the whole music snobbery with any artist/group in the past who wrote great tunes but where put down for not being cool/edgy/formed in a garage.


Oh this all over.

Especially Meat Loaf who was brilliant live.

The Bee Gees wrote brilliant music for fun though and covered 4 decades.
I generally take the criticism of "middle of the road" from a music magazine to a group who were popular as a sign post of a music genius these days.
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Does that sentiment apply to U2 also?
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shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:58 pm Does that sentiment apply to U2 also?
Were they ever described as middle of the road?
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:00 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:58 pm Does that sentiment apply to U2 also?
Were they ever described as middle of the road?
Dunno. I’d assume so?
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:57 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:55 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:48 pm I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
The Bee Gees wrote a lot of great music. I've never quite got the whole music snobbery with any artist/group in the past who wrote great tunes but where put down for not being cool/edgy/formed in a garage.


Oh this all over.

Especially Meat Loaf who was brilliant live.

The Bee Gees wrote brilliant music for fun though and covered 4 decades.
I generally take the criticism of "middle of the road" from a music magazine to a group who were popular as a sign post of a music genius these days.
Nickelback say hi.

The industry being what it is, you can be so exposed to some shithouse anthem to mediocrity that when the soft fuzz of nostalgia drapes it in some mossy looking shit like a Buddha statue in your mum's garden, you fool yourself into thinking it was genius. It's just the neural pathways in your brain giving up in futility.
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Paradise by the dashboard light.
Still sets the teenage level of thinking/acting for this 1980s couple 30 plus years later.
Love it.
Thank you Jim.
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Of course it was overblown theatrical guff for the most part. What of it? It was fun. RIP.

Forever seared in my mind was a trip home in a schoolbus from an away cup fixture, with a particularly well endowed young classmate of mine deciding she'd torture the poor token teacher - a trainee, on placement, who was onboard, by going full-on lapdancer on him at the front of the bus, while singing along to "I would do anything for love..."

He didn't know where to put his eyes, hands, or his increasingly very obvious Mickey...

Sixty odd kids going mental watching it all unfold, singing along...

We never saw the poor fecker in the school again.
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redderneck wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:47 am Of course it was overblown theatrical guff for the most part. What of it? It was fun. RIP.

Forever seared in my mind was a trip home in a schoolbus from an away cup fixture, with a particularly well endowed young classmate of mine deciding she'd torture the poor token teacher - a trainee, on placement, who was onboard, by going full-on lapdancer on him at the front of the bus, while singing along to "I would do anything for love..."

He didn't know where to put his eyes, hands, or his increasingly very obvious Mickey...

Sixty odd kids going mental watching it all unfold, singing along...

We never saw the poor fecker in the school again.
:lol: :lol:
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:09 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:57 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:55 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:48 pm I like it

I also like boy bands, the Bee Gees, A-ha and middle-career Rick Ashley

So, RIP Jim.
The Bee Gees wrote a lot of great music. I've never quite got the whole music snobbery with any artist/group in the past who wrote great tunes but where put down for not being cool/edgy/formed in a garage.


Oh this all over.

Especially Meat Loaf who was brilliant live.

The Bee Gees wrote brilliant music for fun though and covered 4 decades.
I generally take the criticism of "middle of the road" from a music magazine to a group who were popular as a sign post of a music genius these days.
Nickelback say hi.

The industry being what it is, you can be so exposed to some shithouse anthem to mediocrity that when the soft fuzz of nostalgia drapes it in some mossy looking shit like a Buddha statue in your mum's garden, you fool yourself into thinking it was genius. It's just the neural pathways in your brain giving up in futility.
I think you can reduce anything we do down to responses of neural pathways firing up. But that doesn't make great music mediocre.

Most of the music I love is before I was born and discovered, or explored later on. I love the music of Elton John, Abba, Earth, Wind and Fire, Beatles, Queen, early 70's Bowie and early 70's Stevie Wonder. Most of whom are utter genius, genuinely brilliant listens. But I've said before I can't get into much of The Rolling Stones, I only enjoy a few U2 hits. However one of my all time favour Albums is 'The Arcade Fire's' debut and there was no nostalgia there in my immediate enjoyment of it, nor my disappointment of many other albums this past decade or so when they came out suggesting a lot more than familiarity.
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redderneck wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:47 am Of course it was overblown theatrical guff for the most part. What of it? It was fun. RIP.

Forever seared in my mind was a trip home in a schoolbus from an away cup fixture, with a particularly well endowed young classmate of mine deciding she'd torture the poor token teacher - a trainee, on placement, who was onboard, by going full-on lapdancer on him at the front of the bus, while singing along to "I would do anything for love..."

He didn't know where to put his eyes, hands, or his increasingly very obvious Mickey...

Sixty odd kids going mental watching it all unfold, singing along...

We never saw the poor fecker in the school again.
That's a fun story! :lol:
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shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Yer Man wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:28 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:03 pm Funny story. I went to see Meatloaf while in the States

Me and about 5,000 regular Americans turned up hoping to see a greatest-hits, good-natured gig in a country town.

Boy, were we in for a shock! He refused to play any of that, preferring (instead) to focus on his new Arthouse material...

After 90 mins of this drivel he reluctantly played Bat and then left the stage without encore


Plum.
At least I got to see him perform properly at Wembley Arena about 15 years ago.

Well, eventually - he collapsed with a Heart Attack during the first show.
Came back 6 months later and did it properly - including a 25ft high giant inflatable bat!
Jaysus.

That’s hardcore. :lol:
Yeah.

He played exactly the same set as he had planned first time round.
When it reached the point where the first concert had stopped, he told the audience
"Last time I tried to sing this song in London it nearly killed me. But what the hell"
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AND-y wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:34 am
redderneck wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:47 am Of course it was overblown theatrical guff for the most part. What of it? It was fun. RIP.

Forever seared in my mind was a trip home in a schoolbus from an away cup fixture, with a particularly well endowed young classmate of mine deciding she'd torture the poor token teacher - a trainee, on placement, who was onboard, by going full-on lapdancer on him at the front of the bus, while singing along to "I would do anything for love..."

He didn't know where to put his eyes, hands, or his increasingly very obvious Mickey...

Sixty odd kids going mental watching it all unfold, singing along...

We never saw the poor fecker in the school again.
That's a fun story! :lol:
Glorious!
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Did great work with The Sisters of Mercy.
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Yer Man wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:07 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Yer Man wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:28 pm
shanky wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:03 pm Funny story. I went to see Meatloaf while in the States

Me and about 5,000 regular Americans turned up hoping to see a greatest-hits, good-natured gig in a country town.

Boy, were we in for a shock! He refused to play any of that, preferring (instead) to focus on his new Arthouse material...

After 90 mins of this drivel he reluctantly played Bat and then left the stage without encore


Plum.
At least I got to see him perform properly at Wembley Arena about 15 years ago.

Well, eventually - he collapsed with a Heart Attack during the first show.
Came back 6 months later and did it properly - including a 25ft high giant inflatable bat!
Jaysus.

That’s hardcore. :lol:
Yeah.

He played exactly the same set as he had planned first time round.
When it reached the point where the first concert had stopped, he told the audience
"Last time I tried to sing this song in London it nearly killed me. But what the hell"
:lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol:
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