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Horrible squad - but you can just about select a decent match day 23 from them.

Are Jonny Hill and Elliot Daly good at team-building or something? Decent at singing maybe?

My test team:

Wyn Jones, Owens, Furlong
AWJ, Itoje
Beirne, Faletau, Curry
Murray
Biggar
Henshaw, Aki I guess? (shit options at 13)
Watson, Hogg, Rees-Zammit

Bench: Sutherland, George, Porter, Henderson, Watson / Tipuric, G Davies, Farrell, L Williams
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DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 pm Just noticed Courtney Lawes in!

Shows how far James Ryan has fallen.
Can Ryan play backrow too?
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:02 pm Bundee Aki is a mad selection
Squidge had a good take on it
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DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm Aki is TOP trolling :lol:

Sinkler probably failed the no dickheads policy. Daly isn’t my choice but he’s versatile and can play badly in several positions.
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I genuinely feel the incorrect leaked squad was stronger than this one :lol:

Gatland clearly likes credit in the bank from previous tours and knows what style he wants to play and has selected accordingly although what Finn Russell is supposed to do with that backline (Guessing Faz at 12 and Henshaw at 13 is his plan) is anyone's guess

Oh well congrats to the chaps who made the team and commiserations to those that didn't. Here's hoping they smash hell out of the match dodgers
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The Sun God wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm Aki is TOP trolling :lol:

Sinkler probably failed the no dickheads policy. Daly isn’t my choice but he’s versatile and can play badly in several positions.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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A little underwhelmed. Foxy out is fine, but Daly is no better - maybe just versatile enough to nick it. Has Simmonds actually got an England cap or just not picked recently?

Gatland's starting XXIII

15. Hogg
14. Liam
13. Henshaw
12. Farrell
11. Watson
10. Biggar
9. Murray
8. Faletau
7. Watson
6. Beirne
5. Henderson
4. AWJ
3. Furlong
2. Owens
1. Wyn Jones

16. Sutherland
17. Cowan-Dickie
18.Fagerson
19. Itoje
20. Lawes
21. Curry
22. Cawdor
23. Daly

Farrell in because I think he will go 6-2 and Daly covers a lot. He'll pick big men on the bench.
Bolded are locked in for me.

It can all change, and some new players will come in with injuries mounting.
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So 6N 5th placed shithouse team get the most players on the plane :thumbup:

Hope Gats knows what he is dping picking an uncapped player not good enough for the bottom feeders team and Hill and Daly :lol:

Joking apart, I will get behind the team whatever the make up :thumbup:

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Dobbin wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:04 pm Question is, how many of the 37 won't even make it to the plane. This almost certainly isn't the squad that will be flying to South Africa.
Sutherland is injured and Edinburgh say he does not need an operation but is touch and go. Watson has not played since Montpellier, is struggling with a groin injury, and is not training at all.
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As an abstract thought, might a Hogg, Watson, Williams back three be one of the most balanced/talented trios to ever turn out for the Lions?
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LandOTurk wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:57 pm A little underwhelmed. Foxy out is fine, but Daly is no better - maybe just versatile enough to nick it. Has Simmonds actually got an England cap or just not picked recently?

Gatland's starting XXIII

15. Hogg
14. Liam
13. Henshaw
12. Farrell
11. Watson
10. Biggar
9. Murray
8. Faletau
7. Watson
6. Beirne
5. Henderson
4. AWJ
3. Furlong
2. Owens
1. Wyn Jones

16. Sutherland
17. Cowan-Dickie
18.Fagerson
19. Itoje
20. Lawes
21. Curry
22. Cawdor
23. Daly

Farrell in because I think he will go 6-2 and Daly covers a lot. He'll pick big men on the bench.
Bolded are locked in for me.

It can all change, and some new players will come in with injuries mounting.
Daly on the bench? He should be on the beach
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Is something up with J Davies and Ringrose? Can’t believe neither of them made it.

Daly was an absolute horror show in the 6N - very very lucky - maybe Gats backs him as a wing, which tbf he can actually play unlike full back, and has fond memories of him nailing 60m kicks against NZ last time.

Simmonds against a physical team like SA doesn’t make a lot of sense to me - he has a lot of freedom at Ex because he has two massive lumps either side of him in the backrow - interested to see what he can do though and god knows Billy doesn’t deserve to be there.
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Well, some surprises, and although I feel a couple of players were unlucky and a couple were lucky as a result, it's not like they left the modern day equivalent of BOD at home. 9, 10, and the centres outside of Henshaw haven't looked consistently amazing.

I do think the pack looks pretty good, and generally has good depth too. I think it can front up to the Boks, hopefully the Lions forwards can gel quickly though. Boks may face a slightly similar race against time (?)

But the backs do look, on the whole, a little weak in comparison, imho, but we've known that for this season at least.

As someone else mentioned, injuries, suspensions, etc. will change the squad somewhat.

Anyway, I'm excited! Love selection day
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I'd only play Curry and Itoje from England, tbf. Maybe Watson too.

3-0 to SA, whoever plays.
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What are Simmonds' hands like? Given the centres are poor let's play him at 12.

As bad as the centre cohort are (and I'd argue it's the worst set in the pro era) with JD2 and Ringrose off form, Huw Jones somewhat still in the wilderness and North and Tuilagi injured it's not like there are many others to pick from.
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Da iawn diolch wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:08 pm
Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:02 pm Bundee Aki is a mad selection
It's only mad if you completely ignore the coaching team and the style of play that they will coach to.

Taking that into account, it makes perfect sense.
Not with Towny
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DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:27 pmSo position wise we have:

FB Options: Hogg, Williams, Daly
Wing options: Adams, Rees Zammit, Watson, vdMerwe, Williams
13 options: Henshaw, Aki, Harris, Daly
12 options: Henshaw, Aki, Farrell
OH options: Farrell, Russell, Biggar
SH options: Davies, Murray, Price
1 options: Jones, Sutherland, Vunipola, Porter
2 options: Owens, Cowan-Dickie, George
3 options: Furlong, Porter, Fagerson
2nd row options: Beirne, Henderson, Itoje, AW Jones, Lawes, Hill
7 options: Tipuric, Watson, Curry
6 options: Conan, Beirne, Curry, Faletau, Henderson, Itoje, Lawes
8 options: Conan, Simmonds, Faletau
I'd love to know what Gatlands thinking was positionally

He has one specialist FB, 3/4 specialist wings and a number of players (3/4) who can cover either.
Only one real specialist in the centres - Harris, with most of the others offering interchangability or another position (e.g. Farrell/Daly)
2 specialist 10s and 3 nines
3 specialists for each of the front row positions, albeit Porter might be movable in a pinch
2 specialist second rows
At 8 we have 2 specialists (from what I know of Simmonds, and acknowldging that Conan can play 6 at a pinch), with Faletau playing his club rugby at 6.
2 specialist sevens, with Curry able to cover other positions
5 & 6 seem to be a blend of players who can and do moderately regularly play between both positions.
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earl the beaver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:18 pm What are Simmonds' hands like? Given the centres are poor let's play him at 12.

As bad as the centre cohort are (and I'd argue it's the worst set in the pro era) with JD2 and Ringrose off form, Huw Jones somewhat still in the wilderness and North and Tuilagi injured it's not like there are many others to pick from.
Don't rate Slade?
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The Sun God wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 12:54 pm Aki is TOP trolling :lol:

Sinkler probably failed the no dickheads policy. Daly isn’t my choice but he’s versatile and can play badly in several positions.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:19 pm
Da iawn diolch wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:08 pm
Ulsters Red Hand wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:02 pm Bundee Aki is a mad selection
It's only mad if you completely ignore the coaching team and the style of play that they will coach to.

Taking that into account, it makes perfect sense.
Not with Towny
Gats is a f**king megalomaniac.

There's no way he's going to divest ownership of strategy. Towny will be there to run nice set-piece moves.
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DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:23 pm
DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:27 pmSo position wise we have:

FB Options: Hogg, Williams, Daly
Wing options: Adams, Rees Zammit, Watson, vdMerwe, Williams
13 options: Henshaw, Aki, Harris, Daly
12 options: Henshaw, Aki, Farrell
OH options: Farrell, Russell, Biggar
SH options: Davies, Murray, Price
1 options: Jones, Sutherland, Vunipola, Porter
2 options: Owens, Cowan-Dickie, George
3 options: Furlong, Porter, Fagerson
2nd row options: Beirne, Henderson, Itoje, AW Jones, Lawes, Hill
7 options: Tipuric, Watson, Curry
6 options: Conan, Beirne, Curry, Faletau, Henderson, Itoje, Lawes
8 options: Conan, Simmonds, Faletau
I'd love to know what Gatlands thinking was positionally

He has one specialist FB, 3/4 specialist wings and a number of players (3/4) who can cover either.
Only one real specialist in the centres - Harris, with most of the others offering interchangability or another position (e.g. Farrell/Daly)
2 specialist 10s and 3 nines
3 specialists for each of the front row positions, albeit Porter might be movable in a pinch
2 specialist second rows
At 8 we have 2 specialists (from what I know of Simmonds, and acknowldging that Conan can play 6 at a pinch), with Faletau playing his club rugby at 6.
2 specialist sevens, with Curry able to cover other positions
5 & 6 seem to be a blend of players who can and do moderately regularly play between both positions.
Must have thrown darts at board
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Joost wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:15 pm Is something up with J Davies and Ringrose? Can’t believe neither of them made it.

Daly was an absolute horror show in the 6N - very very lucky - maybe Gats backs him as a wing, which tbf he can actually play unlike full back, and has fond memories of him nailing 60m kicks against NZ last time.

Simmonds against a physical team like SA doesn’t make a lot of sense to me - he has a lot of freedom at Ex because he has two massive lumps either side of him in the backrow - interested to see what he can do though and god knows Billy doesn’t deserve to be there.
Good points.

I think for J Davies, form wasn't great / coming back from (constant now it seems?) injury / age, he would have been lucky to make it imho.
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Hawk97 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:23 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:18 pm What are Simmonds' hands like? Given the centres are poor let's play him at 12.

As bad as the centre cohort are (and I'd argue it's the worst set in the pro era) with JD2 and Ringrose off form, Huw Jones somewhat still in the wilderness and North and Tuilagi injured it's not like there are many others to pick from.
Don't rate Slade?
I don't think he'd cut the mustard and he makes a fair few errors but I'd agree he should be there ahead of Aki or Harris.
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Frodder wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:11 pm
LandOTurk wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:57 pm A little underwhelmed. Foxy out is fine, but Daly is no better - maybe just versatile enough to nick it. Has Simmonds actually got an England cap or just not picked recently?

Gatland's starting XXIII

15. Hogg
14. Liam
13. Henshaw
12. Farrell
11. Watson
10. Biggar
9. Murray
8. Faletau
7. Watson
6. Beirne
5. Henderson
4. AWJ
3. Furlong
2. Owens
1. Wyn Jones

16. Sutherland
17. Cowan-Dickie
18.Fagerson
19. Itoje
20. Lawes
21. Curry
22. Cawdor
23. Daly

Farrell in because I think he will go 6-2 and Daly covers a lot. He'll pick big men on the bench.
Bolded are locked in for me.

It can all change, and some new players will come in with injuries mounting.
Daly on the bench? He should be on the beach
Not arguing that, but he is in the squad and it can only be because of versatility. I think Gats sees him as one of he 2 backs in the 6-2 bench. That's why Farrell starts at 12.
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I had a sneaking suspicion Nowell may have been included, thought he'd got over injuries just in nick of time.

Still don't really get this 6N form thing, can play well in Nov/Dec autumn nations cup thingy, poorly in Feb/March 6N, but then extrapolate form out to July. If your form can change between Dec and Feb it can change between March and July, surely.

To make form decisions easier I'd be up for a pre-tour selection death match :thumbup:
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DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:23 pm
DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:27 pmSo position wise we have:

FB Options: Hogg, Williams, Daly
Wing options: Adams, Rees Zammit, Watson, vdMerwe, Williams
13 options: Henshaw, Aki, Harris, Daly
12 options: Henshaw, Aki, Farrell
OH options: Farrell, Russell, Biggar
SH options: Davies, Murray, Price
1 options: Jones, Sutherland, Vunipola, Porter
2 options: Owens, Cowan-Dickie, George
3 options: Furlong, Porter, Fagerson
2nd row options: Beirne, Henderson, Itoje, AW Jones, Lawes, Hill
7 options: Tipuric, Watson, Curry
6 options: Conan, Beirne, Curry, Faletau, Henderson, Itoje, Lawes
8 options: Conan, Simmonds, Faletau
I'd love to know what Gatlands thinking was positionally

He has one specialist FB, 3/4 specialist wings and a number of players (3/4) who can cover either.
Only one real specialist in the centres - Harris, with most of the others offering interchangability or another position (e.g. Farrell/Daly)
2 specialist 10s and 3 nines
3 specialists for each of the front row positions, albeit Porter might be movable in a pinch
2 specialist second rows
At 8 we have 2 specialists (from what I know of Simmonds, and acknowldging that Conan can play 6 at a pinch), with Faletau playing his club rugby at 6.
2 specialist sevens, with Curry able to cover other positions
5 & 6 seem to be a blend of players who can and do moderately regularly play between both positions.
He has 2 specialist fullbacks in Hogg and Williams, the fact Williams can't play wing doesn't disguise the fact his primary position is fullback.

Equally, when was the last time Henderson played 6? Or who is arguing that Itoje isn't a specialist second row?
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Morgan14 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:26 pm
Joost wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:15 pm Is something up with J Davies and Ringrose? Can’t believe neither of them made it.

Daly was an absolute horror show in the 6N - very very lucky - maybe Gats backs him as a wing, which tbf he can actually play unlike full back, and has fond memories of him nailing 60m kicks against NZ last time.

Simmonds against a physical team like SA doesn’t make a lot of sense to me - he has a lot of freedom at Ex because he has two massive lumps either side of him in the backrow - interested to see what he can do though and god knows Billy doesn’t deserve to be there.
Good points.

I think for J Davies, form wasn't great / coming back from (constant now it seems?) injury / age, he would have been lucky to make it imho.
Yep. John 'Foxy' Davies always took about 2-3 games to hit stride after injury. Not one to hit the first game with a bang. But we've waited the past 4 months and nothing materialized after his year long rehabilitation from the RWC knee injury. He has lost a lot of gas unfortunately.
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Bloody hell.
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Da iawn diolch wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:09 pm As an abstract thought, might a Hogg, Watson, Williams back three be one of the most balanced/talented trios to ever turn out for the Lions?
from the pro era, perhaps. 2009 was pretty good I'd have though, albeit different in style
think the 71, 73 or 77 Lions would probably be up there, with some all-time legends
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DeDoc wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:32 pm
Da iawn diolch wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:09 pm As an abstract thought, might a Hogg, Watson, Williams back three be one of the most balanced/talented trios to ever turn out for the Lions?
from the pro era, perhaps. 2009 was pretty good I'd have though, albeit different in style
think the 71, 73 or 77 Lions would probably be up there, with some all-time legends
Kearney was awesome, but I don't remember Bowe, Fitzy or anyone else on the wing having any impact whatsoever. Could be mistaken.
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Bosher centres and a relatively small, quick back row. Solid set piece. Lots of players who are very strong over the ball.

Elliot Daly has landed a penalty from behind his own 10m line in Joburg, so thats that mystery solved.
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earl the beaver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:18 pm What are Simmonds' hands like? Given the centres are poor let's play him at 12.

As bad as the centre cohort are (and I'd argue it's the worst set in the pro era) with JD2 and Ringrose off form, Huw Jones somewhat still in the wilderness and North and Tuilagi injured it's not like there are many others to pick from.
Eh?

Henry Slade?
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Short Man Syndrome wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:48 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 pm Just noticed Courtney Lawes in!

Shows how far James Ryan has fallen.
Can Ryan play backrow too?
No, Beirne can and Henderson at a stretch
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Luckycharmer wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:38 pm
Short Man Syndrome wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:48 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 pm Just noticed Courtney Lawes in!

Shows how far James Ryan has fallen.
Can Ryan play backrow too?
No, Beirne can and Henderson at a stretch
If we're picking a secondrow at 6, it will be Bierne or Lawes, I'd be very surprised if Itoje or Hendy play 6 on tour.
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So Warren. Tactics?

Run hard and straight. Win the collision. Pick yourself up and be ready willing and able to repeat. That's both sides of the ball obviously. In case anyone figures me for one-dimensional, if the above is not working when we are in possession, we will nuance it by tasking them to chase hard and straight, and kick like feck.

Fair enough Warren.

Our trickplay will involve mauling the ball from a midfield breakdown inside our own 22. That'll learn 'em.
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redderneck wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:40 pm So Warren. Tactics?

Run hard and straight. Win the collision. Pick yourself up and be ready willing and able to repeat. That's both sides of the ball obviously. In case anyone figures me for one-dimensional, if the above is not working when we are in possession, we will nuance it by tasking them to chase hard and straight, and kick like feck.

Fair enough Warren.
He got closer to beating the Boks in the RWC with those tactics than England got. Could be v boring tests!
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redderneck wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:40 pm So Warren. Tactics?

Run hard and straight. Win the collision. Pick yourself up and be ready willing and able to repeat. That's both sides of the ball obviously. In case anyone figures me for one-dimensional, if the above is not working when we are in possession, we will nuance it by tasking them to chase hard and straight, and kick like feck.

Fair enough Warren.
He's picked loads of players who are good on the deck (I'm confused by the lack of Navidi on that front), I think we will be going for that.

I think Henshaw could thrive at 13 on this tour.
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MrDominator wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:36 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:18 pm What are Simmonds' hands like? Given the centres are poor let's play him at 12.

As bad as the centre cohort are (and I'd argue it's the worst set in the pro era) with JD2 and Ringrose off form, Huw Jones somewhat still in the wilderness and North and Tuilagi injured it's not like there are many others to pick from.
Eh?

Henry Slade?
I don't mind Slade, feel he's a little unlucky, but it's not like he'd move the needle significantly imho. Centres were problematic, and injuries have not helped.
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Luckycharmer wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:41 pm
redderneck wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 2:40 pm So Warren. Tactics?

Run hard and straight. Win the collision. Pick yourself up and be ready willing and able to repeat. That's both sides of the ball obviously. In case anyone figures me for one-dimensional, if the above is not working when we are in possession, we will nuance it by tasking them to chase hard and straight, and kick like feck.

Fair enough Warren.
He got closer to beating the Boks in the RWC with those tactics than England got. Could be v boring tests!
I know I'll get as sucked in as the next guy when(if) the games come closer - but I am finding it very hard to give a flying fcuk about this series.
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