Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

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bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every 18 to 54 times
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bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:19 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every time.
22nd.


You appear to be broken again.
Whose knows where your crackpot, flawed, freedom-first ideas would lead. It's impossible to tell how dangerous people like yourself are.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:19 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every time.
22nd.


You appear to be broken again.
Whose knows where your crackpot, flawed, freedom-first ideas would lead. It's impossible to tell how dangerous people like yourself are.
Send him for re-education comrade.

You seem the type that would like that.
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Re-education? Education the first time round would do.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:19 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every time.
22nd.


You appear to be broken again.
Whose knows where your crackpot, flawed, freedom-first ideas would lead. It's impossible to tell how dangerous people like yourself are.

Indeed it’s people who want personal Liberty and responsibility that are the truly dangerous. It’s not impossible to tell exactly what happens next with people like you though.
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bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:06 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:19 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:15 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm

“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every time.
22nd.


You appear to be broken again.
Whose knows where your crackpot, flawed, freedom-first ideas would lead. It's impossible to tell how dangerous people like yourself are.

Indeed it’s people who want personal Liberty and responsibility that are the truly dangerous. It’s not impossible to tell exactly what happens next with people like you though.
Saving lives? How terrible.
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Trostan wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:26 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every 18 to 54 times
:lol: :lol:
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bimboman wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:13 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:01 pm Whatever dumbot thinks or states, assume or do the opposite.

If he had his way, total Covid-19 deaths in Britain would be double or triple what they are now.


“Double” or “triple”.....

It’s the accuracy of any counter argument that gets me every time.
:lol: That's actually a good one.
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Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
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Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
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C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 am
Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
The scary variant criteria
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Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am
C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 am
Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
The scary variant criteria
Ah the one that became prevalent after travel from India was not stopped.
:thumbup:
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C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am
C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 am
Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
The scary variant criteria
Ah the one that became prevalent after travel from India was not stopped.
:thumbup:
The variant formerly called the India variant
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C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am
C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 am
Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
The scary variant criteria
Ah the one that became prevalent after travel from India was not stopped.
:thumbup:
guided by the science /message
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This certainly sums up some aspects of the Vaccine-deniers crowd

Richard Littler@richard_littler

I see that a famous guitarist who used to spend $16,000 a week on heroin in the 1970s ($90k+ in today's money), who almost died in hospital because he drank three bottles of brandy a day, is worried about the recognised side-effects of a tested, approved vaccine on his body.
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I have to ask, that since TEst and Trace seems to have failed rather abjectly at stopping the cases from shooting up again, should we be having a conversation about whether all this money we are spending on it is worth it at all? Especially the moonshot lateral flow tests that have just been rubbished by the FDA.
I mean I'm sure it is nice to say that we can do a million tests a day, but what is the practical benefit of it?
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not_english wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:40 am I have to ask, that since TEst and Trace seems to have failed rather abjectly at stopping the cases from shooting up again, should we be having a conversation about whether all this money we are spending on it is worth it at all? Especially the moonshot lateral flow tests that have just been rubbished by the FDA.
I mean I'm sure it is nice to say that we can do a million tests a day, but what is the practical benefit of it?
A few more millions donated to the Tory Party?
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not_english wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:40 am I have to ask, that since TEst and Trace seems to have failed rather abjectly at stopping the cases from shooting up again, should we be having a conversation about whether all this money we are spending on it is worth it at all? Especially the moonshot lateral flow tests that have just been rubbished by the FDA.
I mean I'm sure it is nice to say that we can do a million tests a day, but what is the practical benefit of it?
That's the quetsion.

One statistic I quoted mid-last year (I think) is one of the most potent correlations in COVID spread is the more compliant a population is with their government/authority the less it spread and lockdowns were needed.

So Test and trace works in South Korea, but it even failed in Germany last winter who were supposed to be getting the Corona virus response done right at first. Freedom is enriched and ingrained in European culture. Test and Trace is only as effective as the population is willing or able to comply with authority.

This attitude matches numerous survey's where the public blames, well, the public not the government for the rate of infections spread. Regardless of the media and political opinion/narratives/perceptions, the general populace can see if their neighbours and colleagues are following guidance or not. Not much test and trace can do there.
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eldanielfire wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:37 am This certainly sums up some aspects of the Vaccine-deniers crowd

Richard Littler@richard_littler

I see that a famous guitarist who used to spend $16,000 a week on heroin in the 1970s ($90k+ in today's money), who almost died in hospital because he drank three bottles of brandy a day, is worried about the recognised side-effects of a tested, approved vaccine on his body.
Bad example.
I am amazed you cannot see why.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:34 am
eldanielfire wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:37 am This certainly sums up some aspects of the Vaccine-deniers crowd

Richard Littler@richard_littler

I see that a famous guitarist who used to spend $16,000 a week on heroin in the 1970s ($90k+ in today's money), who almost died in hospital because he drank three bottles of brandy a day, is worried about the recognised side-effects of a tested, approved vaccine on his body.
Bad example.
I am amazed you cannot see why.
Feel free to explain.
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Spend 9 minutes of your lives and listen to an expert.



https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/14 ... 7242516482
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not_english wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:40 am I have to ask, that since TEst and Trace seems to have failed rather abjectly at stopping the cases from shooting up again, should we be having a conversation about whether all this money we are spending on it is worth it at all? Especially the moonshot lateral flow tests that have just been rubbished by the FDA.
I mean I'm sure it is nice to say that we can do a million tests a day, but what is the practical benefit of it?


They’re testing a million a day for the cases to “shoot” , I doubt they’re getting a million a day clicking on test and trace apps.
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C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:21 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:15 am
C69 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:12 am
Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:09 am Looks like we're going to get thrown a bone today. Weddings and possibly outdoor events having their capacity extended. The rest being kicked down the road
Iirc there were certain conditions that had to be met.
Which ones have not been met?
The scary variant criteria
Ah the one that became prevalent after travel from India was not stopped.
:thumbup:


Which has “replaced” the spread of previous variants not added a new virus.


See the interview with the expert above.
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Under "More Tweets" I'm getting:
Sam Bright
@WritesBright
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“We are proud to be British” says #GBNews founder Andrew Neil.

Every single one of GB News’ major shareholders is based outside Great Britain
Jim Waterson
@jimwaterson
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Andrew Neil’s opening monologue on GB News was about how the channel wouldn’t push false narratives.

Anyway an hour later there’s an uninterrupted, unchallenged to-camera monologue by host Dan Wootton on GB News about how lockdowns don’t work. This is definitely new territory.
James Ball
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20h
“That’s my prime minister!” shouts a guy at the table behind us in the pub as
@MarcusRashford is subbed in. #eng
David Schneider
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“It’s utterly offensive that the EU treats Northern Ireland as separate from the UK” says government that negotiated, signed up to and championed deal that treats Northern Ireland as separate from the UK.
Emma KennedyBlue heart
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POP QUIZ! Which Prime Minister knew about the Indian variant at the beginning of April and did the precise sum of nothing about it until the end of April?
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You follow David Schneider. x(

Do you frequent the same clubs?
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:39 am You follow David Schneider. x(

Do you frequent the same clubs?
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Jun 12
Late into first lockdown
Late into second lockdown
Late into third lockdown
Late to put India on the red list
Over a year late to even half secure secure borders

But they “did everything they could”
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Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:39 am You follow David Schneider. x(

Do you frequent the same clubs?
David Schneider
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Jun 12
Late into first lockdown
Late into second lockdown
Late into third lockdown
Late to put India on the red list
Over a year late to even half secure secure borders

But they “did everything they could”


I always look for my epidemiology from washed up old comedians. :thumbup:
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bimboman wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:21 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:39 am You follow David Schneider. x(

Do you frequent the same clubs?
David Schneider
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Jun 12
Late into first lockdown
Late into second lockdown
Late into third lockdown
Late to put India on the red list
Over a year late to even half secure secure borders

But they “did everything they could”


I always look for my epidemiology from washed up old comedians. :thumbup:
That washed up old comedian is bang on the money. It's so obvious, ordinary people do get it.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:25 pm
bimboman wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:21 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:55 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:39 am You follow David Schneider. x(

Do you frequent the same clubs?
David Schneider
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Jun 12
Late into first lockdown
Late into second lockdown
Late into third lockdown
Late to put India on the red list
Over a year late to even half secure secure borders

But they “did everything they could”


I always look for my epidemiology from washed up old comedians. :thumbup:
That washed up old comedian is bang on the money. It's so obvious, ordinary people do get it.


I posted just a page back a serious professor of this stuff who doesn’t think it’s “obvious” , you on the other hand are really the ordinary so good for you.
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80% of Covid hospital patients in June caught it while already in the hospital? 80%! And they want to delay full reopening of the hospitality? How about moving hospital patients into nice safe pubs instead? https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... tement.pdf
It’s accurate.

If my quote is accurate (from the quoted thread) then the piss take really is in.
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Got a builder in for the week. I didn't know this but all the NHS workers are refusing the jab due to the planted genetic sequence design to attack your immune system.

Apparently Bill Gates said something in 2017 about killing ~1m people and this is his plan coming to pass.

Any posters on here know anymore than me?
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Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:25 pm Got a builder in for the week. I didn't know this but all the NHS workers are refusing the jab due to the planted genetic sequence design to attack your immune system.

Apparently Bill Gates said something in 2017 about killing ~1m people and this is his plan coming to pass.

Any posters on here know anymore than me?
He is a builder.

I know plenty NHS refusing though.
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Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:25 pm Got a builder in for the week. I didn't know this but all the NHS workers are refusing the jab due to the planted genetic sequence design to attack your immune system.

Apparently Bill Gates said something in 2017 about killing ~1m people and this is his plan coming to pass.

Any posters on here know anymore than me?
I don't, but I'm sure the bloke down the pub will.
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Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:25 pm Got a builder in for the week. I didn't know this but all the NHS workers are refusing the jab due to the planted genetic sequence design to attack your immune system.

Apparently Bill Gates said something in 2017 about killing ~1m people and this is his plan coming to pass.

Any posters on here know anymore than me?
Loads, I'd expect. :P
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Frodder wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:25 pm Got a builder in for the week. I didn't know this but all the NHS workers are refusing the jab due to the planted genetic sequence design to attack your immune system.

Apparently Bill Gates said something in 2017 about killing ~1m people and this is his plan coming to pass.

Any posters on here know anymore than me?
You should ask a taxi driver. They always have an opinion.
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Just listened to Dr of micro biology on radio 2, who saying it his job to give the facts about the effect of the virus on humans, politicians to decide how to communicate it. He then proceeded to give no facts or figures on the Delta variant at all, while using emotive kanguage to describe the possible awful effects. No IFR, no hospitalisation data, nothing. F ing annoying and the presenter did not pull him up at all.
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ChipSpike wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:00 pm
Just listened to Dr of micro biology on radio 2, who saying it his job to give the facts about the effect of the virus on humans, politicians to decide how to communicate it. He then proceeded to give no facts or figures on the Delta variant at all, while using emotive kanguage to describe the possible awful effects. No IFR, no hospitalisation data, nothing. F ing annoying and the presenter did not pull him up at all.


This has been constant....
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So how many are they expecting fully vaccinated by 21st July and will they honour that date?
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