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danny_fitz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:15 pm
danny_fitz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:06 pm
Nolanator wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:01 pm Some absolute freak had a shit haemorrhage at the gym staff this evening. Apparently one of the female staff members asked him not to do something and he flew off the handle. Called her a cúnt or something and was shepherded to the door by a male staff member.

He fully stomped around in a tantrum, pushing past people and tried walking through the cable stack when someone was doing flies. Proper red mist stuff. Shouted at the staff a bit, before finally figuring out how to go through the turnstyle while having a melt.

I asked the staff what happened. They reckoned he wasn't right in the head. I blame roid rage. :lol: :uhoh:
:lol: :lol:

Saw something similar when some dickhead positioned himself under the squat rack in a shoulder stand position and attempted to do some kind of inverted leg press by lifting the bar with his feet, no spotters or anything. Luckily one of the staff saw what he was attempting to do and rushed over to stop him, cue mayhem as this chap objected to his routine being upset. Part of me was curious to see what 100+kg of olympic bar would do if dropped on a human head.
Surely you mean a smith machine?

It is still totally bonkers but I can't imagine anyone trying that just with a barbell balanced on their feet.
Yup, it was a 'safety rack', still the risk of dropping the bar to the floor though if the grip hooks are not being controlled is still high.
completely insane for sure. There is levels to gym craziness. Bicep curls in the squat rack and calf raises on the leg press machine are level 1. That shit is level 58. BTW when you say "squat rack" I imagine free weights in a cage.

The dumb thing is he'd get better results squatting with a sack of garden soil or two in his yard. All these dudes inventing special exercises are hilarious. I've seen some weird shit before - most often people using machines in an "inventive" way, sitting backwards or at weird angles or whatever ... but that one surely takes the cake.
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Barbell inverted leg press is a proper old school exercise. Been around for as long as barbells probably.

Rightly though, most gyms won't be keen on you doing them.

If you're interested and open minded about this stuff, Range of Strength is a good Instagram account to follow. Guy is proper strong, flexible and interested in the history of what he does.
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bobbity wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:39 pm Barbell inverted leg press is a proper old school exercise. Been around for as long as barbells probably.

Rightly though, most gyms won't be keen on you doing them.

If you're interested and open minded about this stuff, Range of Strength is a good Instagram account to follow. Guy is proper strong, flexible and interested in the history of what he does.
That is an interesting bit of trivia, but it is also nuts now that we have so much better stuff available.

In fact, I dunno what anyone ever did it, let alone now. Like it's going to make a bee's dick of difference whether you're doing that weird and dangerous maneuver rather than a standard leg press, squat or whatever else. In fact, You'd be better off squatting rocks in your back yard.

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2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
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There is levels to gym craziness. Bicep curls in the squat rack and calf raises on the leg press machine are level 1. That shit is level 58
:lol: Back of the net. I’ve seen some crazy behaviour in gyms. Lads asking can they cut in and then having a sulk when told no and trying to stand there staring at you. Had another guy literally run across the gym floor to tell me he using a particular free weight as part of his set despite the 500 signs saying you can’t reserve weights. Funny old places gyms.
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All of the pressing today. Topped out with 100kg 3x3, and then volume sets of 8 and 10 on BB and DB bench. Pull ups, cable rows, TPDs, and face pulls to round it out. Fun session for getting all the bloodflow to the upper body.
Benching is feeling good. Technique is decent and strength is good, even though I haven't really chased strength numbers in weeks.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:49 am
There is levels to gym craziness. Bicep curls in the squat rack and calf raises on the leg press machine are level 1. That shit is level 58
:lol: Back of the net. I’ve seen some crazy behaviour in gyms. Lads asking can they cut in and then having a sulk when told no and trying to stand there staring at you. Had another guy literally run across the gym floor to tell me he using a particular free weight as part of his set despite the 500 signs saying you can’t reserve weights. Funny old places gyms.
My old Virgin active gym got bought out by Puregym a few years back and overnight changed from an £80 a month semi middle class type clientele to a £15 a month Love Island wannabe fluorescent teethed sleeve tattooed orange skinned f*ckwit brigade clientele. The amount of arguments over 'reserved' free weights and peacock displays of 'alpha' behaviour was a sight to behold as was the sudden proliferation of 'Golds Gym' weights vests.
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ElementFreak wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:51 am 2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
:thumbup:

I'm all Covidy at the moment, so a 2k erg test will probably kill me.
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Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
25:30.7 6,000m 2:07.5 169 880 20 149
5:07.9 1,200m 2:08.2 166 870 20 141
5:07.0 2,400m 2:07.9 167 875 20 146
5:06.7 3,600m 2:07.7 168 877 20 149
5:05.6 4,800m 2:07.3 170 883 20 154
5:03.5 6,000m 2:06.4 173 895 20 158

Progressive 6km. Fun session.
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danny_fitz wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
ElementFreak wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:51 am 2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
:thumbup:

I'm all Covidy at the moment, so a 2k erg test will probably kill me.
Proper covid or just the flu? Either way, lemsip and a wank.
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Once again, Bulgarian Split Squats brought me to the brink of vomitting in the gym this morning.
Cold sweats, headrush etc, had to go for an emergency poo. They absolutely destroy me, particularly doing them as assistance after heavier leg work.

I need to eat more in the morning beforehand. Training on an empty stomach is fine for upper body, doesn't work for leg day.
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ElementFreak wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:06 am
danny_fitz wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
ElementFreak wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:51 am 2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
:thumbup:

I'm all Covidy at the moment, so a 2k erg test will probably kill me.
Proper covid or just the flu? Either way, lemsip and a wank.
On the last few days of isolation, still feeling a bit energy minus so it will be interesting how I get on when I am back on the water this week. Last week I had the full cough, fluey achy symptoms but thankfully feeling okay now.

So where is your nearest rowing club?
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danny_fitz wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:35 am
ElementFreak wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:06 am
danny_fitz wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
ElementFreak wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:51 am 2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
:thumbup:

I'm all Covidy at the moment, so a 2k erg test will probably kill me.
Proper covid or just the flu? Either way, lemsip and a wank.
On the last few days of isolation, still feeling a bit energy minus so it will be interesting how I get on when I am back on the water this week. Last week I had the full cough, fluey achy symptoms but thankfully feeling okay now.

So where is your nearest rowing club?
Probably just a normal cold if you didn't test positive.

I'm not being snarky or a conspiracy theorist but most relative fit people I know - and you are extremely fit - shrugged off covid and said they found the common cold/flu to be worse.

As a disclaimer I'm fully aware it is generally much more dangerous. Just a random observation.
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Have no idea where my nearest rowing club is, but it's not something I've looked into or am particularly interested in to be honest. I bought the concept 2 to keep fit over the off season as I don't really have any races to train for in running and the rest of the rugby season has been cancelled here.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:00 pm
danny_fitz wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:35 am
ElementFreak wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:06 am
danny_fitz wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 am
ElementFreak wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:51 am 2 x 2000m with 4 rest. Held steady for the first and then wanted to go a bit quicker for the second, to really get comfortable pushing the pace for a long time.

Time Meters Pace S/M HR
7:50.9 2,000m 1:57.7 24 163
7:26.7 2,000m 1:51.6 26 184
:thumbup:

I'm all Covidy at the moment, so a 2k erg test will probably kill me.
Proper covid or just the flu? Either way, lemsip and a wank.
On the last few days of isolation, still feeling a bit energy minus so it will be interesting how I get on when I am back on the water this week. Last week I had the full cough, fluey achy symptoms but thankfully feeling okay now.

So where is your nearest rowing club?
Probably just a normal cold if you didn't test positive.

I'm not being snarky or a conspiracy theorist but most relative fit people I know - and you are extremely fit - shrugged off covid and said they found the common cold/flu to be worse.

As a disclaimer I'm fully aware it is generally much more dangerous. Just a random observation.
I did test positive, had one day of feeling ropey, other then that it was a case of feeling energy minus and a bit snotty. Will be back on the water tomorrow so that will be a bit of a wake up call as to where I am.
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Nolanator wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:28 am Once again, Bulgarian Split Squats brought me to the brink of vomitting in the gym this morning.
Cold sweats, headrush etc, had to go for an emergency poo. They absolutely destroy me, particularly doing them as assistance after heavier leg work.

I need to eat more in the morning beforehand. Training on an empty stomach is fine for upper body, doesn't work for leg day.
Some people at my gym finally convinced me I needed to eat more in general and especially before working out. I've only been back in the gym for 3 months after 16 months off from just before covid (got married, honeymoon and then everything closed down) so for the first 6 weeks I got by without eating enough just because the weight was low enough and the gains were really easy. I've been eating a lot more in general too, and the weight on the bar keeps going up which is good. Yesterday was (weights in pounds) deadlift 360x5, squat 340x5x3 and overhead press 137.5x5x3. I can see getting by on upper body without eating enough but definitely legs need it. And I'm doing Starting Strength so every lift day is leg day. Now the challenge is to make sure I don't get fat from eating too much. I'm already on the upper end of where I want to be with regard to that so probably gonna go get a DEXA scan to make sure I'm not going the wrong direction there.
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I had to pull out of my comp because of work so I thought I test my Deadlift max as that was one of the events. Pulled a nice 600lb/273kg deadlift, probably had another 30lbs in the tank. Really happy with that as I’ve not pulled anything over 475lbs/215kg during my last training block.

https://youtube.com/shorts/uOhxpZGOnqQ?feature=share
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Big :thumbup: :thumbup:

I'm really enjoying seated cable rows these days. Just seem to have found a good groove and the movement is clean, good contraction in the lats etc. Mixing it between the medium and narrow neutral grip.
Back feels juicy afterwards. That's an area that I've never really been big or strong. :thumbup:
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Nolanator wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:09 am Big :thumbup: :thumbup:

I'm really enjoying seated cable rows these days. Just seem to have found a good groove and the movement is clean, good contraction in the lats etc. Mixing it between the medium and narrow neutral grip.
Back feels juicy afterwards. That's an area that I've never really been big or strong. :thumbup:
Thanks. I never got on with cable rows, I don’t like how my lower back feels.
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mr flaps wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:23 am I had to pull out of my comp because of work so I thought I test my Deadlift max as that was one of the events. Pulled a nice 600lb/273kg deadlift, probably had another 30lbs in the tank. Really happy with that as I’ve not pulled anything over 475lbs/215kg during my last training block.

https://youtube.com/shorts/uOhxpZGOnqQ?feature=share
Awesome
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mr flaps wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:23 am I had to pull out of my comp because of work so I thought I test my Deadlift max as that was one of the events. Pulled a nice 600lb/273kg deadlift, probably had another 30lbs in the tank. Really happy with that as I’ve not pulled anything over 475lbs/215kg during my last training block.

https://youtube.com/shorts/uOhxpZGOnqQ?feature=share
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Impressive- looked comfortable
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Commencing Total Meters Total Time
13/09/21 30,192m 2:21:45.8
20/09/21 48,941m 3:41:22.9
27/09/21 30,384m 2:26:40.1
04/10/21 42,090m 3:10:20.2
11/10/21 16,276m 1:16:14.3

Been trying to get at least 30km on each week, but looking to increase it to 60-70km a week over the next 10 weeks. Feeling pretty fit at the moment, interval pieces are getting easier even with a higher HR. Like this one from today 4x800m/2 min rest:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
11:45.4 3,200m 1:50.2 261 1199 25 175
2:56.9 800m 1:50.5 259 1191 25 167
2:56.7 800m 1:50.4 260 1194 26 174
2:56.5 800m 1:50.3 261 1197 25 179
2:55.4 800m 1:49.6 266 1214 26 182
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:40 pm Impressive- looked comfortable
Thanks. Looking for 660lbs/300kg early in the new year.
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mr flaps wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:16 pm
Nolanator wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:09 am Big :thumbup: :thumbup:

I'm really enjoying seated cable rows these days. Just seem to have found a good groove and the movement is clean, good contraction in the lats etc. Mixing it between the medium and narrow neutral grip.
Back feels juicy afterwards. That's an area that I've never really been big or strong. :thumbup:
Thanks. I never got on with cable rows, I don’t like how my lower back feels.
TBF, you'd be pulling such an enormous amount of weight that your lower back would be under lots of tension. :lol:
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Nolanator wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:09 am
mr flaps wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:16 pm
Nolanator wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:09 am Big :thumbup: :thumbup:

I'm really enjoying seated cable rows these days. Just seem to have found a good groove and the movement is clean, good contraction in the lats etc. Mixing it between the medium and narrow neutral grip.
Back feels juicy afterwards. That's an area that I've never really been big or strong. :thumbup:
Thanks. I never got on with cable rows, I don’t like how my lower back feels.
TBF, you'd be pulling such an enormous amount of weight that your lower back would be under lots of tension. :lol:
True😮😂
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Back spasms can go and shite.

Did a fairly whopper leg session yesterday, felt grand during it, but then my lower back seized up over the course of the evening. In bits today. Blagged some neurofen plus from the pharmacy and trying to keep moving and stretching.

The DOMS radiating through my quads and glutes isn't helping. Can't tell if it's relaated to the spasm, or just the lifting.
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Still getting over Covid, feel like an asthmatic ant with a particularly heavy load of shopping at the moment.
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Nolanator wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:08 pm Back spasms can go and shite.

Did a fairly whopper leg session yesterday, felt grand during it, but then my lower back seized up over the course of the evening. In bits today. Blagged some neurofen plus from the pharmacy and trying to keep moving and stretching.

The DOMS radiating through my quads and glutes isn't helping. Can't tell if it's relaated to the spasm, or just the lifting.

Almost certain that my lower issues over the years have been piriformis and glute related. Too much volume has also been an issue. I was pretty surprised at how low the volume was and how low the loads were when I started working with Graham Hicks.
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mr flaps wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:35 pm
Nolanator wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:08 pm Back spasms can go and shite.

Did a fairly whopper leg session yesterday, felt grand during it, but then my lower back seized up over the course of the evening. In bits today. Blagged some neurofen plus from the pharmacy and trying to keep moving and stretching.

The DOMS radiating through my quads and glutes isn't helping. Can't tell if it's relaated to the spasm, or just the lifting.

Almost certain that my lower issues over the years have been piriformis and glute related. Too much volume has also been an issue. I was pretty surprised at how low the volume was and how low the loads were when I started working with Graham Hicks.
I'd physio booked in for Wednesday as it was. Was planning on getting back to some serious shoulder capsule stuff, but I need to sort the back ASAP. Holliers coming up, plane journeys on Friday and Saturday. Having even residual spasm for those will be awful and genuinely affect my enjoyment of the trip.

Gonna ask the physio to go to town on my quads, IT, TFL, hip flexors. I think I'll need to take a leak first and also some anti-vomiting pills. It is going to be absolutely horrendous, there's a good chance I'll soil myself with the pain.
The tissues around my hips are so tight in general, they clearly need a lot of stretching a loosening.
To go with the uber tight shoulder. Yay.
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danny_fitz wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:31 pm Still getting over Covid, feel like an asthmatic ant with a particularly heavy load of shopping at the moment.
That's the thing that terrifies me about covid, any long covid type symptoms.
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