Reiko Ioane should be our 1st choice 11

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Bridge is done.
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We’ll nearly have as many threads on the subject as Bridge dropped balls tonight. Three and counting - excluding discussion on the match thread.
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We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
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Couch your drum is gonna break bitching about Bridge.

That being said, I agree Rieko is first choice 11. He's just better at winger than centre.

Him and Jordan/ Reece would do me.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
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The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
I agree, Bridge's mistake that led to the try was embarrassing obviously but it was a very very sloppy game from the All Blacks.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
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The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
I raise you OT. BR was marginally better.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
Only because Pollard exists.

He was easily the worst AB on the field, with respect to plucky challenges from the likes of Akira and Ofa. But both of those players have had decent performances this season and merit their places in the squad
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:26 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
I raise you OT. BR was marginally better.
Bridge was on the field longer. Gifted the Springboks 5 points and coughed the ball up 5 times giving the ball back in better field position.
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The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
Pollard & Lood gave a good run for the money on this award. Lood was good in the lineout but in the end wasn't fit enough to get back onside. Cost them multiple penalties.
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The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:30 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:26 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
I raise you OT. BR was marginally better.
Bridge was on the field longer. Gifted the Springboks 5 points and coughed the ball up 5 times giving the ball back in better field position.
You're right. GB did that over 70. But OT did it all in 20.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:54 am
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:30 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:26 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm

I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
He was the worst on the field.
I raise you OT. BR was marginally better.
Bridge was on the field longer. Gifted the Springboks 5 points and coughed the ball up 5 times giving the ball back in better field position.
You're right. GB did that over 70. But OT did it all in 20.
I know I’m right. Bridge played poorer for longer giving the Springboks more opportunities over the course of the game.
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Bridge was our worst player, there's no debate about that. But a number of our players underperformed. Whoever replaces George Bridge will be under immense pressure next week.
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The Native wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:05 am
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:54 am
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:30 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:26 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:25 pm
He was the worst on the field.
I raise you OT. BR was marginally better.
Bridge was on the field longer. Gifted the Springboks 5 points and coughed the ball up 5 times giving the ball back in better field position.
You're right. GB did that over 70. But OT did it all in 20.
I know I’m right. Bridge played poorer for longer giving the Springboks more opportunities over the course of the game.
OTs shitness per minute ratio trumps GBs.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:08 am Bridge was our worst player, there's no debate about that. But a number of our players underperformed. Whoever replaces George Bridge will be under immense pressure next week.
Why would they be under immense pressure? Because they’d not be carrying the weight of Bridge’s abysmal performance. I’ve said it multiple times this RC, he’s the worst performing outside back in the squad so he hasn’t exactly set the bar high for whoever replaces him.

If Bridge is lucky enough to retain his sport then he’d be under immense pressure.
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The Native wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:18 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:08 am Bridge was our worst player, there's no debate about that. But a number of our players underperformed. Whoever replaces George Bridge will be under immense pressure next week.
Why would they be under immense pressure?
Overly defensive reply, as is now the norm for you. They will be under immense pressure, just like all our back three players were last night. Bridge dropped three kicks, but Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan and Damien McKenzie all failed to diffuse multiple high kicks as well. The Springboks employ a high kick and chase as their number one attacking option. If Reiko Ioane is picked at 11 he will be targeted, hence my comment about him being under pressure.

Btw Joe Moody conceded two scrum penalties. I assume North Island based trolls such as yourself now believe he can no longer scrum and should be immediately replaced?
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:23 pm
The Native wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:09 pm
badmannotinjapan wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:21 pm We missed 14 tackles, conceded 23 turnovers and lost 4 line outs. Surely you can't pin this all on GB.
Can pin the Springbok try on him, definitely.
I agree. But the notion that he was worst out on the field is ridiculous.
:? He was comfortably the worst on the field.
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I thought Akira was close .

Sooooo disappointed.
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Eugenius wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:47 am I thought Akira was close .

Sooooo disappointed.
Yep two dropped passes, which were arguably much worse skill errors than Bridge's dropped kicks. Low tackles, few run meters and he gave away a stupid penalty whilst we were on attack. I hope Ian Foster gives him a chance to redeem himself next week, but after last night's performance I am worried about Akira Ioane at 6 in a tight, physical test match.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:54 am
Eugenius wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:47 am I thought Akira was close .

Sooooo disappointed.
Yep two dropped passes, which were arguably much worse skill errors than Bridge's dropped kicks. Low tackles, few run meters and he gave away a stupid penalty whilst we were on attack. I hope Ian Foster gives him a chance to redeem himself next week, but after last night's performance I am worried about Akira Ioane at 6 in a tight, physical test match.
I thought the forwards were collectively poor at the breakdown.

Akira Ioane has plenty of credit in the bank. He's been good to excellent in every test match so far and last night he struggled at times.

Players like Jordie Barrett have been given 5 years to come right at test level.

I note though that you had no concerns about Blackadder last week even though he missed 4 tackles and gave away 3 penalties including 1 in front of the sticks. Blackadder is a player of sufficient talent he's worth pursuing at this relatively early part of his career as is Akira Ioane even though neither have been perfect in the last two weeks.
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