ID2 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:04 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:05 pm
Rogan is entertaining and charismatic but also a bit of an idiot and at times mind-blowingly gullible.
I agree he is liberal - as in libertarian - but if you're going to plot him on the spectrum of American politics he's way further right than left. I have little doubt he'd genuinely prefer Trump over BIden, for example. He talks loads of shit about the American left and most of it only has grains of truth attached. He's nowhere even close to that cynical and critical of the American right.
That all said, I think he's got a totally valid point about Ivermectin. But he's really just towing a typical rightish anti-vaxxer line (no matter how many times he repeatedly denies that he is one). It makes no coherent logical sense at all that he's perfectly willing to throw the kitchen sink cocktail of drugs at it when he gets covid, many of them unproven, yet he's super highly critical of a different medication - vaccines. It doesn't have to be either-or. But he makes it that along ideological lines, not rational scientific ones.
Image all the side effects that would be reported if you gave 6 billion people the amount of drugs he took for covid. I'm sure it would be much worse than the vaccines. Even if it was still very rare.
And him recovering fairly quickly means fudge all. I got covid and handled it waaaaay better than Rogan did. I basically felt a bit tired for a single day. I was doing heavy squats when I got notified I was positive. I didn't take shit. Not even paracetamol. So his anecdotal story about recovering means nothing.
But then again we are talking about a guy who has indulged in many ridiculous conspiracy theories including believing a few grainy blobs that have been convincingly explained as mundane nothings are actually alien space ships doing acrobatic shows for the US Navy.
Entertaining, yeah. Cool guy, yeah. But take his advice on anything at all barring maybe MMA or comedy at your own risk.
I think the combination of covid and moving to Texas and surrounding himself with the right wingers there has sent him more to the right than ever. He has the blinders on when it comes to anything covid and has pretty much been anti-mask and anti-vax. Hypocritical too considering he was apparently getting everyone tested and in his own words 'threw the kitchen sink at it' when he got covid and spent who knows how much on experimental treatments. He'll lap up anecdotal reports of people having an adverse reaction to the vaccine and ignore all those he knows who've had a tough time with covid. He's always been more right wing sympathetic despite holding some traditionally left wing views. I used to be a fairly regular listener but the constant shoehorning of covid into everything means I rarely listen now unless there's a particularly interesting guest. From what I can tell he got upset that he couldn't perform comedy and there was no way back from that. Not sure when I switched off but listening to him try to argue that standup comedians should be considered essential workers (and clubs reopened) because people need to laugh was up there
Yeah, I used to really like him. I still listen to him to kill time, but it's getting more grating and annoying than ever before.
Firstly, he's not really getting scientists on any more. And when he does he argues with them unless they're telling him exactly what he already wants to hear. Heather and Brett Weinstien barely count. Yes, they are legit scientists, but they've downed the cool-aid on this issue. Rogan presents them as if they're the only ones making any sense, when in reality they're fringe outliers who are being torn apart by their peers. Sam Harris' take-down of their nonsense was particularly brutal.
I really lost a lot of respect for Rogan when he started going cuckoo about aliens. He demonstrated the rational, critical thinking ability of a five year old. And blasted this ridiculously moronic nonsense out to his millions of followers ... most of whom seem to be extremely gullible themselves. His views on covid are roughly in line with his views on aliens: they barely even make coherent sense.