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bimboman wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:22 pm
AND-y wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:32 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:07 am
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DragsterDriver wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:30 am

I’m still wearing a mask in shops- but there’s no way that’s preventing spread really when you can be in a 16 man scrum, a pub, a nightclub, a restaurant etc.

This plan B the nhs confederation are pushing for, it only seems effective if you stop sport, social life, public transport etc and we go back into lockdown caves. I just feel anymore economic damage and we’ll end up living in Bartertown.

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Presumably schools and colleges would go under the bus, land of the super spreaders.
I think plan B would just bring us in line with scotland and wales. Not sure how wonderfully different the effects of those are.
Looking at the people promoting it they want:

A) overthrow the government.
B) lockdown by stealth.
C) overthrow the government.

It will start with mandatory masks and result in full lockdowns- any middle ground is still Tory murder.
Kin hell if these tories arent dead men walking now they never will be despite manipulation from "leftist twitter"


You’ve seen the latest polls right ? :lol:
Not really, i assume they are doing well? One place i think you and i agree is that the world has gone mad. I actuly agree with you on respecting democratic will,but it is all going crazy.
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What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.

When they model public reactions as they slowly lock and unlock they are counting on the dim Joe public to think and interpret it all just like you. You have zero critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Engineer my ass.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.
We were supposed to but cases have sky rocketed. ICUs filling up again with non vaccinated people.

We can't lockdown for them. Covid passes it is
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
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message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.

When they model public reactions as they slowly lock and unlock they are counting on the dim Joe public to think and interpret it all just like you. You have zero critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Engineer my ass.
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.
We were supposed to but cases have sky rocketed. ICUs filling up again with non vaccinated people.

We can't lockdown for them. Covid passes it is
Christ you are shockingly gullible. Isn't Ireland like 92% jabbed or so they claim. So the 8% is the handful of unjabbed and under 12s. Bet they are saying cases now in primary schools and in under 12s means that they all need jabs now.

Are you this easy to sell too, seriously ???
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:24 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.
We were supposed to but cases have sky rocketed. ICUs filling up again with non vaccinated people.

We can't lockdown for them. Covid passes it is
Christ you are shockingly gullible. Isn't Ireland like 92% jabbed or so they claim. So the 8% is the handful of unjabbed and under 12s. Bet they are saying cases now in primary schools and in under 12s means that they all need jabs now.

Are you this easy to sell too, seriously ???
Dozy.

Trump's new platform is that way if you want an echo chamber->

No those in ICU are average age 39 and 80% of those are unvaccinated. The remainder are a combination of break through cases and those with underlying illnesses.

Ireland’s problem as you well know is our capacity issues with public health. It doesn't take much to overwhelm it.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
Simple. Those who refuse to get vaccinated can stay outside
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:29 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
Simple. Those who refuse to get vaccinated can stay outside
What is the state doing to compensate vaccine injuries
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:53 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:29 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am

Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
Simple. Those who refuse to get vaccinated can stay outside
What is the state doing to compensate vaccine injuries
Is one of your gotcha questions where you pretend the question is rhetorical.

Nothing is without risk . There will be lawsuits over the coming years as a very small minority who suffered bad effects from vaccines file a civil lawsuit against dep of Health.

Still vast majority are protected from serious illness. It's those unvaccinated turning up in ICU . Get that vaccine Dozy
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:53 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:29 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am

Plan B means unlocking another few billion for local councils. More importantly it is a step towards another lockdown, so the longer it can be held off, the better.
I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
Simple. Those who refuse to get vaccinated can stay outside
What is the state doing to compensate vaccine injuries
Vaccine injury claims should be unlimited (unlike the govt scheme), and lie exclusively with the manufacturers.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.

When they model public reactions as they slowly lock and unlock they are counting on the dim Joe public to think and interpret it all just like you. You have zero critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Engineer my ass.
You have such little grasp of the situation in Ireland that you actually think the government want covid passes as a de facto state of play?

I said to you a month or two ago to come back in six months and we'll see where the passes are. This winter was always going to still be a risk.

And imagine vaccinating a whole population for a rampant disease that sees people hospitalised and in ICU in huge numbers. We should really have thought of that for flu. Oh wait, we did.
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:58 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:53 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:29 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:22 am

I'd see putting people back on furlough as a backward step with a lockdown.

We just have to get through this winter.
Just this winter....and where do you see the passes will next summer? Just gone ?? 😂
Simple. Those who refuse to get vaccinated can stay outside
What is the state doing to compensate vaccine injuries
Is one of your gotcha questions where you pretend the question is rhetorical.

Nothing is without risk . There will be lawsuits over the coming years as a very small minority who suffered bad effects from vaccines file a civil lawsuit against dep of Health.

Still vast majority are protected from serious illness. It's those unvaccinated turning up in ICU . Get that vaccine Dozy
And it is up to the individual to protect themselves and make risk judgements.

The state is forcing that decision. I am happy to take an inactivated vaccine and even pay £1000 per shot...let me have it
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For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
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CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other.

And if its not good enough then other non western nations need to reciprocate and acknowledge "hey, we know how you feel now, noted, let the games commence"
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
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It's OK dozy, we have 2 antivirals now. Tested and approved.
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CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
4th of May in the EU ....long time chewing on the most used jab on earth.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
4th of May in the EU ....long time chewing on the most used jab on earth.
A different vaccine. Genetically engineered.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
4th of May in the EU ....long time chewing on the most used jab on earth.
One of the vaccines that message refuses to name after he made his 6bn people vaccinated claim.
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message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am It's OK dozy, we have 2 antivirals now. Tested and approved.
What you saying

So jabs not required or the two antivirals from big western pharma are ok because they are from big western pharma and therefore humans
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
4th of May in the EU ....long time chewing on the most used jab on earth.
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit sufficient data for it to be considered

Apologies, I've corrected my sentence.
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am It's OK dozy, we have 2 antivirals now. Tested and approved.
What you saying

So jabs not required or the two antivirals from big western pharma are ok because they are from big western pharma and therefore humans
They've been approved for humans.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:27 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:13 am For the umpteenth time, population wide vaccination has nothing to do with any one individual protecting themselves.
Sinovac is WHO approved, Gavi and Covax approved. Is the west saying they don't rate these bodies standards and that it's ok only for as #massage and others have said here...for "non humans"

If this is the west stands they need to state it and get questioned in it repeatedly until they make a call one way or the other
I'm sure Sinovac will be considered when they submit the data for it to be considered.
4th of May in the EU ....long time chewing on the most used jab on earth.
One of the vaccines that message refuses to name after he made his 6bn people vaccinated claim.
You can bet your bottom dollar after all the chaos of this crisis and all the smears that China wouldnt be putting one of their jabs forward in the west unless it was safe as hell.

They will look for anything to smear it, anything...they must be struggling so they drag it out
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message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:30 am
Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:28 am
message #2527204 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:23 am It's OK dozy, we have 2 antivirals now. Tested and approved.
What you saying

So jabs not required or the two antivirals from big western pharma are ok because they are from big western pharma and therefore humans
They've been approved for humans.
We all know from before what your definition of humans is.

Disgraceful man. The bored in its silence on you can never have the moral high ground on a topic again...you destroyed that
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Dozy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:17 am
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 am What's plan B again?

Is it just covid passes and masks ? If so that's not bad.

It's lockdown that needs to be avoided at all costs
You were saying Ireland were getting rid of Covid passes, they are not , they have no intention.

Also, Covid passes are that bad, if you have the first idea about where they are going and what they will be used for.

When they model public reactions as they slowly lock and unlock they are counting on the dim Joe public to think and interpret it all just like you. You have zero critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Engineer my ass.
What's your view on how the Chinese handle this? The app on the phone and the QR code you have to scan at every public place you're going so that you can be traced back in the event that you could have been exposed to COVID?

And their locking down entire neighborhoods if a COVID case if confirmed? Closing their borders?

Are they overreacting? Are there methods a danger to democracy?
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So a new variant that's more transmissible than delta?

fudge.......sake
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:07 pm So a new variant that's more transmissible than delta?

fudge.......sake
Link?
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CM11 wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:17 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:07 pm So a new variant that's more transmissible than delta?

fudge.......sake
Link?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... and-covid/
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German numbers taking off.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm German numbers taking off.
:shock: Hoped to be flying in there next month.
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sorCrer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm German numbers taking off.
:shock: Hoped to be flying in there next month.
I’m not sure the deal- only that their numbers are rocketing and they’re pretty much mirroring the U.K.
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sorCrer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm German numbers taking off.
:shock: Hoped to be flying in there next month.
Europe will shut down again in November.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:57 pm
sorCrer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm German numbers taking off.
:shock: Hoped to be flying in there next month.
Europe will shut down again in November.
What matters is how the health system copes and how many people die. So far, in countries with high vaccination rates, there are much less deaths than during the previous wave.

No need to close down if people don't need hospitalization in numbers.
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Sandstorm wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:57 pm
sorCrer wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:49 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm German numbers taking off.
:shock: Hoped to be flying in there next month.
Europe will shut down again in November.
I'd be very surprised.

I think there will be covid passes and masks brought into England
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Molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright on Wednesday posted a letter from the National Institute of Health (NIH) showing that an NIH grant did fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, contrary to what Dr. Anthony Fauci had testified to the Senate.
Why am I not surprised? I am shocked, shocked that Fauci would lie and Crazy Rand Paul was right.

https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/ ... han-lab%2F
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