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Mog The Almighty wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:29 pm
Ellafan wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:39 pm
towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:40 am
Zakar wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:36 am
towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:13 am How long before Bobby V gets the credit he deserves? He’s become an excellent No. 8. With and without the ball he’s doing all the right things.

He’s just turned 23.
hE tHiNKs hEs A cENtRe
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Sluggy has some years of frustration coming up. His only chance is to decide Bobby V has changed his ways - matter of time?
You really are a fucking moron. I said he'd gotten fitter and more mobile in camp and off the piss, and improved his defensive positioning about a month ago, you stupid dumb cunt.

Now, if he would learn to protect possession in the tackle and not knock it on all the time, he might start to deserve his spot.
C'mon mate. Valetini has looked great. Better with every game. He was always destroying rucks but now he's hitting up like an old-school wrecking-ball No.8 too. I think Wilson is also class and super unlucky not to be in the squad ... still not sure what he's done wrong ... but there can be no complaining about Valetini any more. Whatever early critisisms were warranted, he's put them to bed.
Valetini was the best Oz backrower by a mile in the SR - he started the season fit af and dominated against all comers. Sluggy was saying he was shit all year, but he’s given up and now claims that Valetini has blah, blah, blah.
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Zakar wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:28 am Hodge looks like he'll be on the next plane home.

With MK staying home, and Hodge down, they'll probably have to call someone up.

Muirhead, or someone from Europe?
The Three Amigos reunite?
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Olo wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:35 pm
Zakar wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:28 am Hodge looks like he'll be on the next plane home.

With MK staying home, and Hodge down, they'll probably have to call someone up.

Muirhead, or someone from Europe?
The Three Amigos reunite?
I'd be happy to see it.
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Kellaway and JOC can cover fullback as well as Hodge.
Daugunu and Perese are in the squad and DR has suggested bringing in Morahan, but I’d be keen to see Beale in the mix.
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Petaia, Kellaway and Wright were all excellent under the high ball. Could easily bring in Daugunu and put Kellaway at 15. But we do need to cover Hodge if he is ruled out. He is also our third option at 10.
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Olo wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:52 pm Petaia, Kellaway and Wright were all excellent under the high ball. Could easily bring in Daugunu and put Kellaway at 15. But we do need to cover Hodge if he is ruled out. He is also our third option at 10.
Tupou can cover 10.
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Lolesio might get a call
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Beale makes sense. He’s there, hes keen and he qualifies under the Gits law.
He has been playing well.

Maybe Hodge is OK but he didn’t look great.
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Zakar wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:43 am
Bindi wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:30 am
wamberal wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:10 am
Bindi wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:31 am That was shit. Petaia the only good story in that one. Mainly for catching the ball.
Samu did some good things when he came on. But we are heading for a string of losses now.
WIll be a different team with Latu, Arnold, Skelton and Kerevi in. Hopefully Tate too, so Cooper doesn't think he has to do everything in attack.
Kerevi yes, but do you really think the Euro 3 will be ready to go with one week in camp with the boys?
Probably not all 3, but I can dream. Kerevi pretty much slotted straight in from memory though. Given they're all in positions of weakness, I reckon at least 1 of those 3 will start.
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Zakar wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:43 am

Kerevi yes, but do you really think the Euro 3 will be ready to go with one week in camp with the boys?
I read a quote attributed to Rennie somewhere in which he asserted that all the ring-ins are "doing a lot of homework".

If we don't get Arnold into the starting XV and Skelton onto the bench, I will be surprised and disappointed. We want to beat Scotland, but we are desperate to beat Eddie's Poaches.
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You can probably guarantee Latu on the bench. I’d love to see Arnold and Rodda start in the row.
We have 2 weeks from yesterday?
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towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 pm
Olo wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:52 pm Petaia, Kellaway and Wright were all excellent under the high ball. Could easily bring in Daugunu and put Kellaway at 15. But we do need to cover Hodge if he is ruled out. He is also our third option at 10.
Tupou can cover 10.
I believe Qlders think that.
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towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:59 pm

Tupou can cover 10.
That's well and good, but would the 10 survive the encounter?
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Olo wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:27 am You can probably guarantee Latu on the bench. I’d love to see Arnold and Rodda start in the row.
We have 2 weeks from yesterday?
Rodda needs to learn to clean out properly. Actually, the whole forward pack apart from Hooper needs to learn that. It's the pack's biggest weakness.
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towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:47 pm Kellaway and JOC can cover fullback as well as Hodge.
Daugunu and Perese are in the squad and DR has suggested bringing in Morahan, but I’d be keen to see Beale in the mix.
I'd rather see my cock in a mincer than see KB back in a Wobs jersey. Fúck him.
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MungoMan wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:31 pm
towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:47 pm Kellaway and JOC can cover fullback as well as Hodge.
Daugunu and Perese are in the squad and DR has suggested bringing in Morahan, but I’d be keen to see Beale in the mix.
I'd rather see my cock in a mincer than see KB back in a Wobs jersey. Fúck him.
He is playing well at FB in France. Like JOC and Cooper he is bigger and stronger. Hodge is our 3rd ten so need someone who can cover both.
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Bindi wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:10 am
Olo wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:27 am You can probably guarantee Latu on the bench. I’d love to see Arnold and Rodda start in the row.
We have 2 weeks from yesterday?
Rodda needs to learn to clean out properly. Actually, the whole forward pack apart from Hooper needs to learn that. It's the pack's biggest weakness.
I thought he was one of our best putting big hits on the Jap forwards behind the ad line and carrying/cleaning out well. He gets through a ton of work. Great in the set piece as well. He is our no nonsense lock.
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MungoMan wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:31 pm
towny wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:47 pm Kellaway and JOC can cover fullback as well as Hodge.
Daugunu and Perese are in the squad and DR has suggested bringing in Morahan, but I’d be keen to see Beale in the mix.
I'd rather see my cock in a mincer than see KB back in a Wobs jersey. Fúck him.
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Exclusive: The Wallabies’ spring tour has taken a massive hit, with Samu Kerevi and Sean McMahon ruled out.

Kerevi, as well as McMahon, failed to take the plane to England and has meetings on Monday, where it is understood the duo have opted not to take part in the end of year Tests.

Quade Cooper, however, is expected to feature in all three Tests against Scotland, England and Wales.

It’s understood the Wallabies will send Kurtley Beale an SOS, as they look for cover at fullback.

More to come.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/excl ... 30b42f79fb
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Ah well. I guess the one win against Japan will have to do.
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Perese to 12?
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Kerevi is a nice to have, but we have oodles of backup there. Perese, Paisami and Ikitau have all looked good in the centres. And OConnor can cover if need be.

McMahon is a fringe player at best and so is not a loss. He would be bench only.

If Beale comes into the squad to cover Hodge and Morahan to cover Korobeite, that is pretty good replacements. And then throw in Latu at 2 and Arnold at 4 and we have a very good pack.
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We have replacements, but Kerevi is arguably the best 12 in the world right now.

Paisami, Perese, etc are good players, but not in the same class.

That said, none of the backlines we are playing will be super physical(other than maybe Wales, or England if they pick the out of form Tuilagi) so we could be ok.
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Kerevi loss is massive. Paisami and Cooper need to work out how to play together quickly. Paisami made 13 tackles with 0 misses, so probably the main reason he was quiet in attack against Japan. Hasn’t been that same since his eye injury though.
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Bindi wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:37 am Kerevi loss is massive. Paisami and Cooper need to work out how to play together quickly. Paisami made 13 tackles with 0 misses, so probably the main reason he was quiet in attack against Japan. Hasn’t been that same since his eye injury though.
Yeah he's a good ball runner, but wasn't used for that against Japan curiously.

I expect they planned to use Hodge as the hammer, but that came undone early on with his pec injury.
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With Henry Stowers signing for Moana Pacifika, will we have Valetini being accused of lollygaging on the wing for 2 games a week next year?
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So what happens with Kerevi now? Rennie pursued him, got him and it was a great fit. He has now opted out of going to Europe, most likely due to pressure from his club.
Bringing Maddog in was a waste of time and most likely put more pressure on Kerevis availability status.

We are really lacking in the backs as far as big boshers who an make yards through traffic with both MK and Kerevi no longer in the squad. The loss of Hodge just compounds the issue.

Both Paisami and Ikitau are relatively small as far as tests centres go and Kellaway and Wright are also on the smaller side. Perese is an option at 12 but not sure his defence is as efficient as Paisamis.
Lots for Rennie to think about.
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Kerevi has given a lot this year considering 7s.

They should keep him in the fold and look to increase his appearances through to 2023. He made a real difference.

McMahon has just shat his bed - don’t go there again.
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This revised Giteau Law is a fudge up, Cooper out now, dropping like flies.
Seems like no one is in charge and its like a PI team trying to settle on a squad before a World cup, players being pressured by French clubs.
It cant be based on a word, how are these players contracted, even if its one game, RA go missing in the HR department again.
Any wins are looking doubtful now.
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grievous wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:29 am
It cant be based on a word, how are these players contracted, even if its one game, RA go missing in the HR department again.
Scratches head. :uhoh:

Has it occurred to you that maybe the players who are dropping out are doing so because they perceive it to be in their best interests to do so?
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wamberal wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:41 am
grievous wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:29 am
It cant be based on a word, how are these players contracted, even if its one game, RA go missing in the HR department again.
Scratches head. :uhoh:

Has it occurred to you that maybe the players who are dropping out are doing so because they perceive it to be in their best interests to do so?
Thats fair enough but doing so a few days before they are supposed to depart after committing to the tour when the coach has left players at home due to their commitment is rough. They changed their minds suddenly(overnight)on the back of what was most likely some sort of ultimatum from their club.
Its neither here nor there but of course they wanted to tour. Otherwise they would not have been selected.
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Anyway, McMahon, Kerevi, etc are doing wonders maintaining players in Australia by their actions.

Coaches will think twice about selecting players for the Wallabys that are not based in Australia and signed to the ARU in the future.
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wamberal wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:41 am
grievous wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:29 am
It cant be based on a word, how are these players contracted, even if its one game, RA go missing in the HR department again.
Scratches head. :uhoh:

Has it occurred to you that maybe the players who are dropping out are doing so because they perceive it to be in their best interests to do so?
Think about that for bit, its a national team not the u16s tour to Newcastle.
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Farva wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:52 am Anyway, McMahon, Kerevi, etc are doing wonders maintaining players in Australia by their actions.

Coaches will think twice about selecting players for the Wallabys that are not based in Australia and signed to the ARU in the future.
Or contractually lock them in for an agreed period. Hard to fathom how this happened.
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Farva wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:26 am Kerevi is a nice to have, but we have oodles of backup there. Perese, Paisami and Ikitau have all looked good in the centres. And OConnor can cover if need be.

McMahon is a fringe player at best and so is not a loss. He would be bench only.

If Beale comes into the squad to cover Hodge and Morahan to cover Korobeite, that is pretty good replacements. And then throw in Latu at 2 and Arnold at 4 and we have a very good pack.
Paisami stinks as a test 12.
I agree with the rest but we’re in all sorts if JOC can’t play 240 minutes straight.
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1 win from the remaining 3 would be a good result now. 2 or 3 would be incredible.
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Bindi wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:23 am 1 win from the remaining 3 would be a good result now. 2 or 3 would be incredible.
Nah. We’ll be alright.
Wallabies’ pack is their strength - JOC knows how to manage a game.
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3 tough games - England and Wales will be humming by the time it gets to them….2 from 3 would be a good result / great outcome.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:26 am 3 tough games - England and Wales will be humming by the time it gets to them….2 from 3 would be a good result / great outcome.
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Kerevi and Koroibete are World XV players imo. Massive loss.

Cooper is very good, but JOC is on par and he’s apparently the fittest he’s been in many years - it’s perhaps a great opportunity to get him out there rather than letting him have a few minutes at the end. Now he can prepare to start so he’ll be better for it.

Foketi is in the tour and you’d think he’ll get a call up. He’s got some potential. However, the Tate/JOC/Paisami combination may be worth a look.
We’ve still got lots of PoW 💥 out wide and the next pack in a long, long time. Slot Beale in at the back and this is a better team than many we’ve taken to Europe.
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