Monkey Magic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:46 pm
Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:12 pm
What a dumb thing to get patriotic about.
It wasn't even really patriotism.
We were heading to an election and some very influential people (not intelligent, influential) were constantly going on that Sweden was right and we were wrong and that we should open up the country and we'd all be fine. Sweden became the antithesis of our strategy (and the thread title here almost backs that up).
Therefore Sweden became the target when it became obvious which strategy was correct for us. In reality it should have been the Talkback virologists who should have had their mics turned off.
Exactly, when twats like this guy (and there are equivalents around the world), were plugging following Sweden, to counter them people started arguing against everything Swedish.
I don't know that guy, I took one look at his dumb head and turned it off.
But to fair, you don't know if you could have done it like Sweden (with vastly better results). You probably could have, being a tiny, low-population island in the middle of nowhere.
And we still don't really know how it's going to turn out for Sweden in the long term. Obviously it's not looking great right at this moment, but it's not looking great for a hell of a lot of places, all with different strategies for tackling the problem.
It's a logically disingenuous to cherry pick the one place the supports your ideology. You could pick countries that locked down hard and still have huge problems. New Zealand is a different place to Sweden.
To be clear I'm not taking any side here, especially not in NZ politics, and especially especially not with the guy in that video. I'm just saying you don't really know, none of us do, and we will not for quite a long time.
As I've said before, I don't know why they don't recommend people to wear masks, but apart from that, I don't have HUGE problems with anything else they've done and I'm smart enough to know what I don't know. I think in five or six years time the experts will be in a better place to pick apart what who did what right or wrong.