CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:39 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:26 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:14 am
No one would hard lockdown again. But no one would treat it as casually as the Swedes initially did either.
How casually did Sweden treat it do you think?
BTW, you're probably right, I'm sure Sweden would do things differently too, like I said. Retrospect is a wonderful thing. However the fact still remains that the lack of a hard lockdown in Sweden likely had only a minor effect.
They treated it like it was something easily handled by proper social responsibility. They were incredibly slow to get the message out to shield the vulnerable.
I think they made some mistakes with the way they handled nursing homes, and they own those mistakes. But I don't think they were slow to get the message out to shield the vulnerable--my girlfriend's parents have been isolated from the start, she and her brother even do their shopping for them, and this is fairly common--and I think at least some of the evidence suggests they are correct that it can be handled (not easily) by proper social responsibility. Sweden's numbers are blown out for a various reasons explained in the scientific studies I've posted and the video analysis, some of them Sweden's fault, others just circumstance. I'm sure they would do a lot differently given their time again, but a hard lock down still wouldn't be on the cards.
That all said, I can also see both sides. it is disappointing and frustrating to note that the Swedish people have let their guard down notably. It's just my own personal anecdotal stories, but where as before there was caution, empty streets, proper social distancing, now it's degenerated into pretty much "life as normal". Even the pubs and bars no longer seem to be enforcing the "every other table" rule. So, maybe they have got a bit cocky thanks to their plummeting infection rate compared to everyone else. That would be a shame and a good argument for
lockdown. "Look ... we gave you a chance to do the right thing by yourself--and you almost did it too--but in the end you acted like a bunch of silly brats, so now we're just going to have to force you like everywhere else".