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Lick your wounds and shuffle on back to the cheap seats Towny. Your guys get to host the damn thing so about time you learn how to be gracious hosts.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.
:?:

Australia was the only one on NZs side. Ffs SA have f**ked off to the NH. Why target us?

True if I were in charge I would have sided with Argentina and South Africa. Its not as if the All Blacks are the first people in history to be away for Christmas. I would have said its NZs problem to sort out, nobody else's business. Once upon a time, like that journo said, blokes would have crawled over broken glass to pull on a black Jersey. These days, opening your presents on Christmas day is more important. Weird but whatever, don't blame us Aussies, we were on your side.
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A simple schedule change, didn't seem such a hard thing to do.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:02 pm
Magpie26 wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:43 pm Seems RA has folded and new dates scheduled meaning the ABs last game is on Saturday 5 December.
NZ lied, complained and made fools of themselves but got what they wanted. Your first reaction is to ignore their behaviour and bag the party that sacrificed and get NZR to step back from the cliff.

When did kiwis become Trumpsters?
NZ lied, Christmas Day died.
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.

You're like a hacky parody of your former self. What happened?
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Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:43 pm
guy smiley wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.

You're like a hacky parody of your former self. What happened?
He became Shanky's mate.
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So Mark Robinson is refusing to say just how much compensation they gave up to have Xmas day off? Do you think he will get backlash from the public? I am not sure the reasoning but maybe he is scared everyone will think he got played, again?

Apparently it came at a Commercial cost.


https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-b ... ule-change
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Isn't it great when an employer takes note of their employees wishes to obtain a fair work/life balance?
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Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:46 am Isn't it great when an employer takes note of their employees wishes to obtain a fair work/life balance?
Yeah. Pity about Argentina, South Africa and the SANZAR alliance. But at least the All Blacks get to open their presents on the right day and will now stop treatening to boycott the competition.
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Which alliance - the one that just shat on us 2/3 weeks earlier. Pineapples and rectums comes to mind
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:51 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:46 am Isn't it great when an employer takes note of their employees wishes to obtain a fair work/life balance?
Yeah. Pity about Argentina, South Africa and the SANZAR alliance. But at least the All Blacks get to open their presents on the right day and will now stop treatening to boycott the competition.
Nothing has changed for South Africa or Argentina has it?
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JB1981 wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:21 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:51 am
Enzedder wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:46 am Isn't it great when an employer takes note of their employees wishes to obtain a fair work/life balance?
Yeah. Pity about Argentina, South Africa and the SANZAR alliance. But at least the All Blacks get to open their presents on the right day and will now stop treatening to boycott the competition.
Nothing has changed for South Africa or Argentina has it?
Both teams dont care about getting back home after New Year. The Currie Cup will only end in late January
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.
Shushh now. We aren’t talking about the wailings of online nobodies - we are talking about the softness, selfishness and lack of self awareness of the NZ rugby team.

What happened to the humility and ‘no dickheads (but occasional wifebeaters okay) policy?
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mr bungle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:19 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:43 pm
guy smiley wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:17 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:04 pm No team has sacrificed less than the ABs, yet no team has made 1/100 the noise.
You’re forgetting your own team of Bazza’s here in this thread m8. Have a look at you cnuts with your pants pulled down and your arses smacked.

You're like a hacky parody of your former self. What happened?
He became Shanky's mate.
Bumbles is apparently a parody in real life too. Well, that’s the word on the street anyway.
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I suspect there are at least two reasons why no one is disclosing what compensation is payable (if any).

Firstly it would be commercially sensitive and protected by contractual confidentiality obligations.

Secondly, it is unlike that they know what any loss may be at this stage or whether “it” is payable and to whom. Australia, Argentina and South Africa appear to have the position that a final weekend without the All Blacks has less value. Effectively their claim is for lost of mana, no one will tune in or turn up to watch South Africa and Argentina if the big draw card is at home (presumably not watching from quarantine). On the surface it sounds right but then when assessing any damages they will need to look at the offset from holding the first game and for the beneficial effects of the All Black brand generally on the competition, both for this series and for the life of SANZAAR/SANZAR. An excessive claim from the partners is an implicit admission from them of the debt they owe All Black rugby and would impact future revenue sharing discussions and there is a real risk that any loss analysis would find that they actually owe NZR substantial sums for carrying the alliance for so long.

I suspect that the tactic has been to try and quietly move on from this and in return for the Aussie/SA and Argie capitulation and apology NZR will kindly donate a few signed jerseys and a couple of shirtless selfies of Hammer’s favorite All Black, and TJ will be happy to flash the guns if it gets the boys home with the whanau for Chrissy.
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Mr Mike wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:35 pm I suspect there are at least two reasons why no one is disclosing what compensation is payable (if any).

Firstly it would be commercially sensitive and protected by contractual confidentiality obligations.

Secondly, it is unlike that they know what any loss may be at this stage or whether “it” is payable and to whom. Australia, Argentina and South Africa appear to have the position that a final weekend without the All Blacks has less value. Effectively their claim is for lost of mana, no one will tune in or turn up to watch South Africa and Argentina if the big draw card is at home (presumably not watching from quarantine). On the surface it sounds right but then when assessing any damages they will need to look at the offset from holding the first game and for the beneficial effects of the All Black brand generally on the competition, both for this series and for the life of SANZAAR/SANZAR. An excessive claim from the partners is an implicit admission from them of the debt they owe All Black rugby and would impact future revenue sharing discussions and there is a real risk that any loss analysis would find that they actually owe NZR substantial sums for carrying the alliance for so long.

I suspect that the tactic has been to try and quietly move on from this and in return for the Aussie/SA and Argie capitulation and apology NZR will kindly donate a few signed jerseys and a couple of shirtless selfies of Hammer’s favorite All Black, and TJ will be happy to flash the guns if it gets the boys home with the whanau for Chrissy.
Kiwi arrogance so strong, looks like 3 teams are simply making up numbers to another capitulation to the AIGs
It’s a trap!
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One more photo please TJ
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IOL
. Springboks’ Rugby Championship participation to be known ’next week’
By Mike Greenaway Time of article published Oct 10, 2020


DURBAN – Early next week the rugby world will at last find out whether the Springboks are to play Test rugby this year.

The Boks are scheduled to participate in the Rugby Championship in Australia in November and SA Rugby on Saturday said that “early next week” they will reveal if the Boks are in fact going or will withdraw.


The Boks are due to play the Wallabies on November 7 in the opening match of their defence of the Rugby Championship title they won last year, with the tournament finishing on December 12.

SA Rugby says there are still several hurdles to be cleared before they make a decision.

SA Rugby’s statement on Saturday said: “The South African government lifted the ban on international sporting participation a week ago and directions to manage such participation were published on Wednesday evening.


“SA Rugby is seeking further clarification from the departments of Arts, Sports and Culture and Transport as to how those regulations would impact on the planned participation.

“A final decision is only likely to be finalised early next week once those clarifications had been assessed internally and with SA Rugby’s SANZAAR partners.”

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I hope we don't go. We're in no shape to play international rugby and even less so without the overseas Boks.
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sorCrer wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:24 pm I hope we don't go. We're in no shape to play international rugby and even less so without the overseas Boks.
You’re in a tough spot. You need the cash but know you’re walking into a house fire.
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sorCrer wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:24 pm I hope we don't go. We're in no shape to play international rugby and even less so without the overseas Boks.
This is the year where you don't take game results too seriously - just play the game for your fans and have some fun.
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Enzedder wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:14 pm
sorCrer wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:24 pm I hope we don't go. We're in no shape to play international rugby and even less so without the overseas Boks.
This is the year where you don't take game results too seriously - just play the game for your fans and have some fun.
I agree with that.

Also, For various reasons, it lookS unlikely that the Lions tour wIll happen. Which would be a huge loss of revenue for SA.

Factor in no tests this year and their finances will be looking terminal
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Given what appears to be the likely SA outcome - no show - Aus Rugby have been left in a pickle for this Tournament.

What an organisational nightmare.

Well done Arg....
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Be nice if they could get a game for Arg vs Sydney Shute shield winners or some such.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:27 pm Be nice if they could get a game for Arg vs Sydney Shute shield winners or some such.
Good idea! Doesn’t have to be a club - could dust off the old ‘Sydney’ jerseys and pick a rep side. Reckon it’d get a fair crowd.
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If they look at possible alternative teams i think the issue is how long they have to bond and prep. So even if playing e.g. Syd rep team, could they form as a team fast enough.

Hence why i went for a shute shield winning team - as they have +ve of continuity (even if generally lower skill set).

A different alternative must be NZ A / Aus A - the plan was to bring 46 players to Aus for NZ. Draw another 10 from NPC and create a NZ A team. Ditto Aus.

Option then is whether to have a mini tournament alongside main tournament to fill out games / get the double header thing going. If Aus vs. Arg was main game, with Aus A vs. NZ A as undercard that's interesting - might get local dollars (maybe not a lot of tv $).
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Given what appears to be the likely SA outcome - no show - Aus Rugby have been left in a pickle for this Tournament.

What an organisational nightmare.

Well done Arg....
Having spent the last two weeks aggressively criticising NZ, the SARU have just completely thrown Rugby Australia under the bus. Who needs enemies when you have friends like the SARU?
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm If they look at possible alternative teams i think the issue is how long they have to bond and prep. So even if playing e.g. Syd rep team, could they form as a team fast enough.

Hence why i went for a shute shield winning team - as they have +ve of continuity (even if generally lower skill set).

A different alternative must be NZ A / Aus A - the plan was to bring 46 players to Aus for NZ. Draw another 10 from NPC and create a NZ A team. Ditto Aus.

Option then is whether to have a mini tournament alongside main tournament to fill out games / get the double header thing going. If Aus vs. Arg was main game, with Aus A vs. NZ A as undercard that's interesting - might get local dollars (maybe not a lot of tv $).
Plenty of options.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:42 pm
kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm If they look at possible alternative teams i think the issue is how long they have to bond and prep. So even if playing e.g. Syd rep team, could they form as a team fast enough.

Hence why i went for a shute shield winning team - as they have +ve of continuity (even if generally lower skill set).

A different alternative must be NZ A / Aus A - the plan was to bring 46 players to Aus for NZ. Draw another 10 from NPC and create a NZ A team. Ditto Aus.

Option then is whether to have a mini tournament alongside main tournament to fill out games / get the double header thing going. If Aus vs. Arg was main game, with Aus A vs. NZ A as undercard that's interesting - might get local dollars (maybe not a lot of tv $).
Plenty of options.
Some options include;
Aust A
NZ A
NZ Maori (brings a woke, ethnic element to the comp)
Pacific Islander Team (combined from eligible players based in and Australia)
Fiji - I bet you they'll put a team together and not cry like our South AFrican man-babies
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If they do bring in a Pasifika team they should look at keeping them 'together' and adding them to SR Aotearoa ... fk U NZR!
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I think of all a PI team has the most attractiveness .. it's more interesting and compelling. But given the spread of players harder to combine into a meaningful team.
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What time is the formal annoucement?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:49 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:42 pm
kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm If they look at possible alternative teams i think the issue is how long they have to bond and prep. So even if playing e.g. Syd rep team, could they form as a team fast enough.

Hence why i went for a shute shield winning team - as they have +ve of continuity (even if generally lower skill set).

A different alternative must be NZ A / Aus A - the plan was to bring 46 players to Aus for NZ. Draw another 10 from NPC and create a NZ A team. Ditto Aus.

Option then is whether to have a mini tournament alongside main tournament to fill out games / get the double header thing going. If Aus vs. Arg was main game, with Aus A vs. NZ A as undercard that's interesting - might get local dollars (maybe not a lot of tv $).
Plenty of options.
Some options include;
Aust A
NZ A
NZ Maori (brings a woke, ethnic element to the comp)
Pacific Islander Team (combined from eligible players based in and Australia)
Fiji - I bet you they'll put a team together and not cry like our South AFrican man-babies
Fiji are playing in the 8 nations tournament, so it won't be them.

In addition to the above you could do a Pacific BaaBaas - the foreign capped players in the region (e.g Stowers, Ardon) plus the best of the rest from ANZ. You could put together a bloody good team.
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Fair to say that we now all have permission to hate South Africa again?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33 am Fair to say that we now all have permission to hate South Africa again?
When did you stop?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33 am Fair to say that we now all have permission to hate South Africa again?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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jambanja wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:57 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33 am Fair to say that we now all have permission to hate South Africa again?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Good news on change on laws in NSW.

ABs can fly to NSW next week and no quarantine. Assume there is still a hoop to jump through for game in Bris, but i think they manage like league (fly in / fly out - no contact).

Assuming they don't go on the run.
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Brumbie_Steve wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:15 am
jambanja wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:57 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33 am Fair to say that we now all have permission to hate South Africa again?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Is this all the stormers fault?
Is this Christchurch townships after the earth quakes?
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