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Hawke's Bay 20 - 19 Canterbury :D

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Just finished watching a recording of Hawke's Bay vs Canterbury.

Hawke's Bay were full credit for their 20-19 win but with Canterbury coming back to lead 19-10 with 20 to play I noticed a couple of critical errors from the visitors:

1. Taking off champion halfback Mitchell Drummond way too early, which is a mistake Canterbury seem committed to repeating.
2. Declining a very gettable penalty kick with no more than 15 minutes remaining, which would have put them up 22-10. There's definitely an allergy about easy three points when it comes to Kiwi sides, no matter how much it can help them.
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Should also mention the Cantabs butchered a couple of tries, but hey how ever it comes :smug:
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What’s up with Canterbury? Stags had no issue taking care of HB.
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Salient wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:54 pm Should also mention the Cantabs butchered a couple of tries, but hey how ever it comes :smug:
The Magpies butchered 3 or 4 as well. And gave away a lot of stupid penalties. Their pack went very well though. I thought the ref was pretty pedantic with both sides though, often blowing penalties for "over the top" when the ball was already won and in the halfbacks hands.

Good game.
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obelixtim wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:27 pm
Salient wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:54 pm Should also mention the Cantabs butchered a couple of tries, but hey how ever it comes :smug:
The Magpies butchered 3 or 4 as well. And gave away a lot of stupid penalties. Their pack went very well though. I thought the ref was pretty pedantic with both sides though, often blowing penalties for "over the top" when the ball was already won and in the halfbacks hands.

Good game.
The ref was all over the show, but for about 60 minutes he was consistent, then in the last 20 he lost his consistency.

Magpies should have put that game away before half time though.

Flanders is a beast.
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Magpies have a Shield challenge next week too - this could be an awesome 8 days! :D
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Brought one of the Magpies match jerseys they were auctioning off for charity on Trademe before the game.

Didn’t think we’d win.

Massive bonus. :smug:
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BBB wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:29 am Brought one of the Magpies match jerseys they were auctioning off for charity on Trademe before the game.

Didn’t think we’d win.

Massive bonus. :smug:
Nice. :thumbup:
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Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
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BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:28 am Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
Yep, an awesome 8 days!
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:35 am
BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:28 am Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
Yep, an awesome 8 days!
Congrats to your boys. Well deserved. They did a real rope a dope on Otago - and our boys were real dopes. The way they were playing today they couldn't even finish a beer.
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Maniototo Man wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:38 am
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:35 am
BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:28 am Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
Yep, an awesome 8 days!
Congrats to your boys. Well deserved. They did a real rope a dope on Otago - and our boys were real dopes. The way they were playing today they couldn't even finish a beer.
TBF, in the first half neither team looked like they could reach the bar to order a beer!
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:40 am
Maniototo Man wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:38 am
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:35 am
BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:28 am Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
Yep, an awesome 8 days!
Congrats to your boys. Well deserved. They did a real rope a dope on Otago - and our boys were real dopes. The way they were playing today they couldn't even finish a beer.
TBF, in the first half neither team looked like they could reach the bar to order a beer!
:lol:

Cruel but fair.

As an aside they should never have et Ioane back on after his HIA - he was not right. He wouldn't have even know there was a bar, let alone where it was.
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Maniototo Man wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:45 am
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:40 am
Maniototo Man wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:38 am
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:35 am
BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:28 am Hawkes Bay 28 Otago 9

The Shield is coming home. :smug:
Yep, an awesome 8 days!
Congrats to your boys. Well deserved. They did a real rope a dope on Otago - and our boys were real dopes. The way they were playing today they couldn't even finish a beer.
TBF, in the first half neither team looked like they could reach the bar to order a beer!
:lol:

Cruel but fair.

As an aside they should never have et Ioane back on after his HIA - he was not right. He wouldn't have even know there was a bar, let alone where it was.
They should have HIA'd McDowall and the fullback at that time as well.
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On the bright side the recent hold it for a week then hand pass to the next team is finished, an away game :thumbup:
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Northland,Manawatu and Wellington the remaining home games for HB.

Probably won’t keep it till the end of the season but it’s good to see The Shield do the rounds again.
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BBB wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:12 am Northland,Manawatu and Wellington the remaining home games for HB.

Probably won’t keep it till the end of the season but it’s good to see The Shield do the rounds again.
Northland - looking strong this year, hell of a game

Manawatu - send in the B team

Wellington - Damn this isn't going to be pretty
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Magpies beat Northland in their first defence. 33- 17.

Both teams were awful in the fist half, Magpies came right in the second.
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Surprised how comfortable that win was in the end.

I just assumed Gareth Evans would eventually work his way back into the starting xv but the way Mikaele-Tu’u and Flanders are going that won’t be happening.

Flanders was particularly good tonight.

Only 21.The dude looks in his 40s. :lol:
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Well that was worth watching ... sort of ... another glorious Magpie Victory :thumbup:

Jeez am not enjoying the half's haircut, did he go to the local hairdresser and asked for the worse they got :shock:
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Salient wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:21 am Well that was worth watching ... sort of ... another glorious Magpie Victory :thumbup:

Jeez am not enjoying the half's haircut, did he go to the local hairdresser and asked for the worse they got :shock:
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Manawatu put to the sword in defense #2, unfortunately Wellington next up .... can we turn them into pussycats or will this one be a disaster?

On the bright side playing away next week to a team I like to call Bay of Plenty ... should be a breeze :blush:

Gosh probably not a good day for Cantab supporters today :shock:
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Salient wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:28 am Manawatu put to the sword in defense #2, unfortunately Wellington next up .... can we turn them into pussycats or will this one be a disaster?

On the bright side playing away next week to a team I like to call Bay of Plenty ... should be a breeze :blush:

Gosh probably not a good day for Cantab supporters today :shock:
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I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
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Beating Canterbury is becoming a habit, even BoP did it and then some. HB may have bring their A team and game.
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BBB wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 am I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
Either option is just as awful (losing to BoP, losing the Shield) so they should just concentrate on winning both. I'd rather we fight, and go down fighting if need be, in both rather than throw one away to win the other.
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 am
BBB wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 am I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
Either option is just as awful (losing to BoP, losing the Shield) so they should just concentrate on winning both. I'd rather we fight, and go down fighting if need be, in both rather than throw one away to win the other.
Damn straight UncleFB :thumbup:

- Bay of Plenty, by and large bogans with small willies.

- Wellington, far too close to Canterbury, unfort will be waving their handbags around like outraged Queens all game.
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Salient wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:46 pm
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 am
BBB wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 am I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
Either option is just as awful (losing to BoP, losing the Shield) so they should just concentrate on winning both. I'd rather we fight, and go down fighting if need be, in both rather than throw one away to win the other.
Damn straight UncleFB :thumbup:

- Bay of Plenty, by and large bogans with small willies.

- Wellington, far too close to Canterbury, unfort will be waving their handbags around like outraged Queens all game.
Lets just win them both, treat them as a semi and a final!
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UncleFB wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 am Lets just win them both, treat them as a semi and a final!
As a Lions fan, I hope they do not treat it like a final.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:55 am
UncleFB wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:33 am Lets just win them both, treat them as a semi and a final!
As a Lions fan, I hope they do not treat it like a final.
Think the Bay will be well up for this fixture, fingers crossed we get a game that isn't all one sided regardless of result.
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UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 am
BBB wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 am I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
Either option is just as awful (losing to BoP, losing the Shield) so they should just concentrate on winning both. I'd rather we fight, and go down fighting if need be, in both rather than throw one away to win the other.
I was just looking at Ranfurly Shield stats.

By my reckoning this is Hawke's Bay's 6th tenure and now their 58th successful defence. In terms of defences they are 4th behind only Auckland, Canterbury and Waikato (who have 60). That's quite surprising, given they are behind on most head-to-heads with their peer provinces such as Taranaki, BOP, Northland etc. They do well with the Shield.
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Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
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Whatever wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:49 am
UncleFB wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:17 am
BBB wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 am I reckon HB will put a bit of a B team out next week v BoP (who’ll get a towelling like they did v North Harbour) to concentrate on that last Shield defence v Wellington the week after.

If we can hold the Shield and win the championship it’ll be a great season.
Either option is just as awful (losing to BoP, losing the Shield) so they should just concentrate on winning both. I'd rather we fight, and go down fighting if need be, in both rather than throw one away to win the other.
I was just looking at Ranfurly Shield stats.

By my reckoning this is Hawke's Bay's 6th tenure and now their 58th successful defence. In terms of defences they are 4th behind only Auckland, Canterbury and Waikato (who have 60). That's quite surprising, given they are behind on most head-to-heads with their peer provinces such as Taranaki, BOP, Northland etc. They do well with the Shield.
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Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
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Whatever wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 am
Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
By BoP showing resilience I assume you mean cheated like crazy in the last 10 minutes and didn’t get half the pack sent off like they should have?

NB: I’m not taking a shot at BoP, you have to give them credit for that last 10 minutes of defending line out maul after line out maul - fair or foul it did the job.
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UncleFB wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:46 am
Whatever wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 am
Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
By BoP showing resilience I assume you mean cheated like crazy in the last 10 minutes and didn’t get half the pack sent off like they should have?

NB: I’m not taking a shot at BoP, you have to give them credit for that last 10 minutes of defending line out maul after line out maul - fair or foul it did the job.
It didn't help that you fielded the H Bay u 18 first five.
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Whatever wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 am
Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
Sorry to hear about the job.

Wellington have actually had bugger all challenges recently so reckon they will be well up for this one. Fingers crossed the Bay come out roaring and don't take a backward step.

Canterbury is interesting, have a feeling they may surprise against Auckland.
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jdogscoop wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:24 am
UncleFB wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:46 am
Whatever wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 am
Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
By BoP showing resilience I assume you mean cheated like crazy in the last 10 minutes and didn’t get half the pack sent off like they should have?

NB: I’m not taking a shot at BoP, you have to give them credit for that last 10 minutes of defending line out maul after line out maul - fair or foul it did the job.
It didn't help that you fielded the H Bay u 18 first five.
Haha, although he's actually an ex Tasman, ex Cantab (but HB born and bred) mid 20's year old ... and aside from the intercept he wasn't too bad as our back up (we don't actually have another 10 in the squad aside from McClutchie, Makene is more a fullback(.
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Salient wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Whatever wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:52 am
Salient wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:30 pm Hawke's Bay drop one away to BOP, five points in it, sorry Canterbury.

Haven't looked at the match highlights yet, but closer than I expected.

Wellington up next followed by the Naki. Think on points we are going to make the final regardless of results over the next two rounds, but we are going to need something to get a home semi.
Just watched it, good game between the Bays. HB created enough chances, The Bay showed great resilience. AND it leaves Canterbury at the bottom with Tasman and Auckland to play I think...

An unexpected bonus of living in Covid USA with my job gone and unable to fly out or go near other human beings is that I have time to watch all of the Mitre10 Cup for the first time, and it's been good stuff. Certainly better than Wales v Scotland for example, yikes.

Looking forward to the Ranfurly Shield match between HB and Wellington next week, think that will be a good one.
Sorry to hear about the job.

Wellington have actually had bugger all challenges recently so reckon they will be well up for this one. Fingers crossed the Bay come out roaring and don't take a backward step.

Canterbury is interesting, have a feeling they may surprise against Auckland.
Thanks mate, lot of people doing worse than me so I don't complain, but I wish the flight schedules were more stable in these days so I could get out of here and be there watching these matches. One of my first memories as a kid was going to the Ranfurly Shield street parades in Napier in 1969, when I first saw the giant Magpie. I thought it was a God. Still do.

Despite all the missing ABs, Wellington still have an almost Super Rugby backline with some x-factor. On the other hand I do like the Hawkes Bay loosies; this Flanders is a standout. Will take a big effort from HB to keep the shield.

@UncleFB, yeah I thought at least one maul in the final minutes against BOP did not collapse of its own volition, but they blew enough chances so only themselves to blame for the loss.
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