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Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:53 pm
by Eugenius
Mr Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:47 pm
All Blacks:
Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith
Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody
Reserves: Dane Coles, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Nepo Laulala, Tupou Vaa’i, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Caleb Clarke.
Savea at 8 ?
I would have started Sotutu !!!
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:54 pm
by Zakar
Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:46 pm
WALLABIES (1-15): James Slipper, Folau Fainga'a, Taniela Tupou, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Matt Philip, Harry Wilson, Michael Hooper, Pete Samu, Nic White, James O'Connor, Marika Koroibete, Matt To'omua, Hunter Paisami, Filipo Daugunu, Tom Banks
RESERVES: Jordan Uelese, Scott Sio, Allan Alaalatoa, Rob Simmons, Rob Valetini, Jake Gordon, Noah Lolesio, Reece Hodge
Interesting that Wilson is 6 and Samu is 8. Doesn't make a huge practical difference though.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 pm
by trapper
Eugenius wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:53 pm
Mr Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:47 pm
All Blacks:
Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith
Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody
Reserves: Dane Coles, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Nepo Laulala, Tupou Vaa’i, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Caleb Clarke.
That’s a pretty good side, I suppose only Jordy on the wing is a surprise but he deserves a shot, I guess he’s going to be the designated kicker, fair enough. Pretty happy with that actually, 3 debs on the bench who’ll get game time.
Savea at 8 ?
I would have started Sotutu !!!
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 pm
by Slim 293
Zakar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:54 pm
Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:46 pm
WALLABIES (1-15): James Slipper, Folau Fainga'a, Taniela Tupou, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Matt Philip, Harry Wilson, Michael Hooper, Pete Samu, Nic White, James O'Connor, Marika Koroibete, Matt To'omua, Hunter Paisami, Filipo Daugunu, Tom Banks
RESERVES: Jordan Uelese, Scott Sio, Allan Alaalatoa, Rob Simmons, Rob Valetini, Jake Gordon, Noah Lolesio, Reece Hodge
Interesting that Wilson is 6 and Samu is 8. Doesn't make a huge practical difference though.
Wilson actually played at 6 for the Aus U20's, and Samu is pretty explosive off the back of the scrum...
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 pm
by Thomas
I'm not sold on Wilson at 6.
And Gordon over Tate the Snake is a puzzling one.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:01 am
by Slim 293
Gordon really the only shock selection...
Has been inconsistent over the last few years, and while he had two very good performances this year they were against weak opposition in the Reds and Force games...
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:05 am
by Zakar
Thomas wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 pm
I'm not sold on Wilson at 6.
And Gordon over Tate the Snake is a puzzling one.
Surely Jake the Snake makes more sense than Tate the Snake?
Anyway, Gordon is a good impact player. He does score tries for fun when he's on form. Let's hope he comes on for the last 20 and scores a brace.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:09 am
by kiap
Zakar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:05 amSurely Jake the Snake makes more sense than Tate the Snake?
I was gonna say
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:26 am
by Adrianmole
RandomNavigat0r wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:30 am
WTF with the referees, and it's IN New Zealand ..
Surely having Aussie refs for the two kiwi games and vice versa makes a bit more sense?
Getting your excuses in early. Good planning.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:28 am
by Adrianmole
Beaudy will replace Ritchie in the 2nd half with Jordy going to FB and Clarke replacing, if all going to plan of course
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 am
by trapper
Or BB gets replaced by his brother, which makes more sense.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:59 am
by UncleFB
What’s the Powerball sitting at in NZ at the moment? Hori Bridge should definitely buy a ticket.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:04 am
by Enzedder
trapper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 am
Or BB gets replaced by his brother, which makes more sense.
BB is the Number 10 cover. He won't be subbed till very late, if at all.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:21 am
by Olo
I imagine that Wilson and Samu will switch back and forth a bit.
Bad luck for Tate. His time will come and he is the future. He was by far the best half in SRAU. Jake Gordon is excellent late in the game though.
It’s no surprise that I would have preferred Uelese to start but both will have their chance over the next few weeks.
JOC will drop back as the second 15.
All in all pretty good.
Bring it!
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:37 am
by wamberal
The biggest surprise to me is that we have gone with a 5/3 bench.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:58 am
by kiwigreg369
wamberal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:37 am
The biggest surprise to me is that we have gone with a 5/3 bench.
Why's that for you? I thought Tate would get the nod so work as back up wing as well - so i thought 6-2 also (Hodge and Tate).
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On NZ:
- OK team
- don't like JB at wing, don't think that answers any questions
- With RMO playing 10 Jack is better at 12 (continuity)
- who is goal kicking? (JB>BB>RMo in SRA?)
Overall expect to be a little rusty, but looking forward to the game.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:03 am
by wamberal
If we perform well in this game, it will be because our pack manages to break even, at least, in the tight - for the whole game.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am
by Eugenius
Best chance for a upset in NZ for the Wallabies in some years .
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:25 am
by CrazyIslander
Mr Mike wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:47 pm
All Blacks:
Beauden Barrett, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Jack Goodhue, George Bridge, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith
Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c), Shannon Frizell, Sam Whitelock, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ofa Tuungafasi, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody
Reserves: Dane Coles, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Nepo Laulala, Tupou Vaa’i, Hoskins Sotutu, TJ Perenara, Anton Lienert-Brown, Caleb Clarke.
Looks weak.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:37 am
by Olo
Eugenius wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am
Best chance for a upset in NZ for the Wallabies in some years .
There is zero pressure on the Wallabies to do anything. It’s a young group with a new coach who has had little time with them.
If the All Blacks do not win convincingly then it will be a big tick for Rennie.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:57 am
by CrazyIslander
This is an experiment to see who benefits most from SR. First time since '96 we've gone into a Bledisloe without playing each other domestically.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:57 am
by CrazyIslander
Olo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:37 am
Eugenius wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am
Best chance for a upset in NZ for the Wallabies in some years .
There is zero pressure on the Wallabies to do anything. It’s a young group with a new coach who has had little time with them.
If the All Blacks do not win convincingly then it will be a big tick for Rennie.
If the Wobs can keep them under 50 then its a tick to Rennie.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:04 am
by kiwigreg369
He's said within 15-16 points.
I think that's tough.
Given the relative experience of the AB team i would hope/aim for higher.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:22 am
by Olo
Every time you run onto the paddock you are trying to win, even as an underdog. Every one of those 23 Wallabies are thinking they will win.
Reality is there can only be one victor on the day.
It is going to be a great game either way.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:30 am
by Tussock
kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:58 am
wamberal wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:37 am
The biggest surprise to me is that we have gone with a 5/3 bench.
Why's that for you? I thought Tate would get the nod so work as back up wing as well - so i thought 6-2 also (Hodge and Tate).
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On NZ:
- OK team
- don't like JB at wing, don't think that answers any questions
- With RMO playing 10 Jack is better at 12 (continuity)
- who is goal kicking? (JB>BB>RMo in SRA?)
Overall expect to be a little rusty, but looking forward to the game.
Sum's up my thoughts on the team. Not sure why we persist on playing a fullback on the wing (didn't like seeing Ben Smith there).
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:30 am
by Sonny Blount
Eugenius wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am
Best chance for a upset in NZ for the Wallabies in some years .
Wallabies are going to get dry humped.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:41 am
by trapper
Enzedder wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:04 am
trapper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 am
Or BB gets replaced by his brother, which makes more sense.
BB is the Number 10 cover. He won't be subbed till very late, if at all.
Why replace either of them really? Just do a straight swap, winger for winger. Or is that to simple?
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:49 am
by wamberal
Sonny Blount wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:30 am
Eugenius wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:16 am
Best chance for a upset in NZ for the Wallabies in some years .
Wallabies are going to get dry humped.
Like Trump??
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:09 am
by Thomas
JB is a big bloke and he's on the wing against some pretty nimble fuckers.
It's an interesting conundrum. You have BB, Richie and JB in the team and they can all sort of interchange somewhat. Hard to leave one of them out, I guess.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:21 am
by vintage_cox
What's the over/under on number of cross-kicks to Jordie Barrett. How tall are the Oz wingers?
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:26 am
by Thomas
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:21 am
What's the over/under on number of cross-kicks to Jordie Barrett. How tall are the Oz wingers?
MK is 1.81m
Daugunu is 1.75m
JB is 2.9m
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:28 am
by Zakar
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:21 am
What's the over/under on number of cross-kicks to Jordie Barrett. How tall are the Oz wingers?
Both are sub 6ft, but very explosive.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:38 am
by xhooker
All Blacks
Would rather see starting
Caleb Clarke the best wing in NZ today over Jordi Barrett too slow at wing proven failure in that position./
Hoskins Sotutu ditto above over Shannon Frizell ditto above Artie can play 6,7 or 8
Anton Lienert-Brown at 12 the defensive brains and get rid of Rieko Ioane
Rather see Will Jordon as the other wing
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:42 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Zakar wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:28 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:21 am
What's the over/under on number of cross-kicks to Jordie Barrett. How tall are the Oz wingers?
Both are sub 6ft, but very explosive.
Bit racist.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:43 am
by trapper
xhooker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:38 am
All Blacks
Would rather see starting
Caleb Clarke the best wing in NZ today over Jordi Barrett too slow at wing proven failure in that position./
Hoskins Sotutu ditto above over Shannon Frizell ditto above Artie can play 6,7 or 8
Anton Lienert-Brown at 12 the defensive brains and get rid of Rieko Ioane
Rather see Will Jordon as the other wing
How the fark is JB a proven failure on the wing? Last time I remember him playing there For the ABs he score 4 tries. As for the rest of your post they will all get a chance at some stage, you can’t pick everyone mate.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:09 am
by ZuLurk
The ABs with all its talent. Cannot work out their choices.
Dave Rennie and his Wallabies if ready if focused can take it
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:10 am
by ZuLurk
Thomas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:26 am
vintage_cox wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:21 am
What's the over/under on number of cross-kicks to Jordie Barrett. How tall are the Oz wingers?
MK is 1.81m
Daugunu is 1.75m
JB is 2.9m
Inflated?
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:15 am
by ZuLurk
xhooker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:38 am
All Blacks
Would rather see starting
Caleb Clarke the best wing in NZ today over Jordi Barrett too slow at wing proven failure in that position./
Hoskins Sotutu ditto above over Shannon Frizell ditto above Artie can play 6,7 or 8
Anton Lienert-Brown at 12 the defensive brains and get rid of Rieko Ioane
Rather see Will Jordon as the other wing
Caleb Clarke's a good player
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:16 am
by shanky
Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:57 pm
Zakar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:54 pm
Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:46 pm
WALLABIES (1-15): James Slipper, Folau Fainga'a, Taniela Tupou, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, Matt Philip, Harry Wilson, Michael Hooper, Pete Samu, Nic White, James O'Connor, Marika Koroibete, Matt To'omua, Hunter Paisami, Filipo Daugunu, Tom Banks
RESERVES: Jordan Uelese, Scott Sio, Allan Alaalatoa, Rob Simmons, Rob Valetini, Jake Gordon, Noah Lolesio, Reece Hodge
Interesting that Wilson is 6 and Samu is 8. Doesn't make a huge practical difference though.
Wilson actually played at 6 for the Aus U20's, and Samu is pretty explosive off the back of the scrum...
Wilson likes to get out wide and play off 2nd receiver. I think flanker suits him better for that. He might even pack at openside off an attacking scrum.
Re: Bled I - All Blacks v. Wallabies OFFICIAL match thread
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:29 am
by jdogscoop
I must say the Bok supporters on here really do think they are world class selectors since winning the RWC 2019.
This despite the fact their side were beaten by NZ in the group stages, and got past a pretty bushed Wales outfit by the skin of their teeth.