Re: Fozzie Out
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 am
NZR has always been a jobs for the boys closed shop. There's a reason they only gave him two years not the full cycle.
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Gatland post Lions tour? Makes sense I supposeblackblackblack wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 am NZR has always been a jobs for the boys closed shop. There's a reason they only gave him two years not the full cycle.
Warren Gatland isn't in the inner circle of NZR. The next AB coach, when Foster retires in 8 years, will be Scott McLeod . 8 years after Scott McLeod is appointed the new coach will be John Plumtree. 8 years after John Plumtree is appointed the next coach will be Brad Mooar. That's how NZR works.WoodlandsRFC wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:14 amGatland post Lions tour? Makes sense I supposeblackblackblack wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 am NZR has always been a jobs for the boys closed shop. There's a reason they only gave him two years not the full cycle.
I don't want him to fail at all. I want any coach of the ABs to succeed. I'm still butthurt over 2019 after seeing a very good coach turn the ABs into a pile of shit. What I don't have is the confidence in Foster to turn the pile of shit team we currently have into a fearful machine. I think GF is a smart guy, I just hope he can help get the best out the players.Kahu wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:18 pm TY MOG for some sanity.
The ABs have not had a dominant forward pack (tight 5) for a few years. We defended well. Australia played well and they would have put many points on many sides with the mood they were in yesterday.
I'm not the biggest fan of Fozzie either but it's sad to see the critics with the knives at his throat immediately. There are AB supporters that want him to fail and would rather see the ABs lose in order to justify their dislike of the man.
I have no doubt the ABs can maintain intensity and perhaps even pick it up even with lineup changes. I dont think the Wallabies can.
I've seen no evidence of this happening though.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
You're entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree with your postkiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:21 amI've seen no evidence of this happening though.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
You're a Cants first and foremost poster - always have been. Everything done to the benefit of the All Blacks that had an impact on the Cants is view badly by you. You've never put the All Blacks first.
You're entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree with your postguy smiley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:28 amkiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:21 amI've seen no evidence of this happening though.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
You're a Cants first and foremost poster - always have been. Everything done to the benefit of the All Blacks that had an impact on the Cants is view badly by you. You've never put the All Blacks first.
Well that’s just bullshit, Greg.
Just because you're something doesn't make you right Guy.guy smiley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:05 am Try to get over your anti Canterbury bias Greg. AC has always been a staunch AB supporter first and foremost. Suggesting otherwise is petty partisan bullshit.
Jerome Manning wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:45 pm Rennie, Gatland, Robertson, Rob Penney, Vern Cotter before Foster.
The appointment of Foster is a quintessential case study of how successful organisations become complacent and end up attracting the wrong sorts of people in the administration roles.
Yes, he gets another weeks reprieve.Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:29 am Congrats on the first win, Fozzie. You get another few weeks.
And after todays showing I am now of the opinion that Foster should go, along with all his assistants. Nothing I saw today made me think we were heading in the right direction and i cant recall such poor defence and poor general play at times. This is a mark of a poorly coached team.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
While I agree that appointing Foster was a mistake, ther is a lot of bullshit in this post.les@mooloolaba wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 amAnd after todays showing I am now of the opinion that Foster should go, along with all his assistants. Nothing I saw today made me think we were heading in the right direction and i cant recall such poor defence and poor general play at times. This is a mark of a poorly coached team.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
They all need to go, but we wont see that because of the nepotism and incest within NZR and I don't see us getting past the semi's at the next RWC with this shower.
They conceded one try almost immediately and almost another after their second score...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm Agreed. I had a strong preference for Razor but it will be a very long two years to wait for him to take the position if you can’t acknowledge where progress is being made and where there are some positives.
Delighted with how the tight five copied with the loss of Whitelock and all his experience. Not sexy but I loved how solid they were in restarts and that they didn’t hand back momentum after scoring. Huge credit to PT for his performance and leadership there. introduction was very encouraging for developmental purposes and you feel that the squad has already used the first two games to start to grow a better reservoir of talent.
Hats off also to Cane, he is starting to show MCCaw type ability to step up his personal performances from an underwhelming Super Rugby showing.
your reply doesn’t make a lot of sense, can you work on it a bit?badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 pmThey conceded one try almost immediately and almost another after their second score...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm Agreed. I had a strong preference for Razor but it will be a very long two years to wait for him to take the position if you can’t acknowledge where progress is being made and where there are some positives.
Delighted with how the tight five copied with the loss of Whitelock and all his experience. Not sexy but I loved how solid they were in restarts and that they didn’t hand back momentum after scoring. Huge credit to PT for his performance and leadership there. introduction was very encouraging for developmental purposes and you feel that the squad has already used the first two games to start to grow a better reservoir of talent.
Hats off also to Cane, he is starting to show MCCaw type ability to step up his personal performances from an underwhelming Super Rugby showing.
'they' - All Blacks, 'conceded one try' - after scoring their try, the Wallabies scored their try almost immediately, 'second score' - after their second try, the Wallabies almost scored immediately...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:47 pmyour reply doesn’t make a lot of sense, can you work on it a bit?badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 pmThey conceded one try almost immediately and almost another after their second score...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm Agreed. I had a strong preference for Razor but it will be a very long two years to wait for him to take the position if you can’t acknowledge where progress is being made and where there are some positives.
Delighted with how the tight five copied with the loss of Whitelock and all his experience. Not sexy but I loved how solid they were in restarts and that they didn’t hand back momentum after scoring. Huge credit to PT for his performance and leadership there. introduction was very encouraging for developmental purposes and you feel that the squad has already used the first two games to start to grow a better reservoir of talent.
Hats off also to Cane, he is starting to show MCCaw type ability to step up his personal performances from an underwhelming Super Rugby showing.
The Australian try came six minutes after the All Blacks scored and for contrast the All Blacks scored their third try four minutes after their second. None of the opportunities for Australia came from mistakes in receiving restarts so your narrative is confused and misses the point, so yes.badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:19 pm'they' - All Blacks, 'conceded one try' - after scoring their try, the Wallabies scored their try almost immediately, 'second score' - after their second try, the Wallabies almost scored immediately...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:47 pmyour reply doesn’t make a lot of sense, can you work on it a bit?badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 pmThey conceded one try almost immediately and almost another after their second score...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm Agreed. I had a strong preference for Razor but it will be a very long two years to wait for him to take the position if you can’t acknowledge where progress is being made and where there are some positives.
Delighted with how the tight five copied with the loss of Whitelock and all his experience. Not sexy but I loved how solid they were in restarts and that they didn’t hand back momentum after scoring. Huge credit to PT for his performance and leadership there. introduction was very encouraging for developmental purposes and you feel that the squad has already used the first two games to start to grow a better reservoir of talent.
Hats off also to Cane, he is starting to show MCCaw type ability to step up his personal performances from an underwhelming Super Rugby showing.
Yes?
2 mins for the conversion and walk back to half wat for kick off, a couple of stopages so, pretty soon after eh.Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:53 pmThe Australian try came six minutes after the All Blacks scored and for contrast the All Blacks scored their third try four minutes after their second. None of the opportunities for Australia came from mistakes in receiving restarts so your narrative is confused and misses the point, so yes.badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:19 pm'they' - All Blacks, 'conceded one try' - after scoring their try, the Wallabies scored their try almost immediately, 'second score' - after their second try, the Wallabies almost scored immediately...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:47 pmyour reply doesn’t make a lot of sense, can you work on it a bit?badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 pmThey conceded one try almost immediately and almost another after their second score...Mr Mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm Agreed. I had a strong preference for Razor but it will be a very long two years to wait for him to take the position if you can’t acknowledge where progress is being made and where there are some positives.
Delighted with how the tight five copied with the loss of Whitelock and all his experience. Not sexy but I loved how solid they were in restarts and that they didn’t hand back momentum after scoring. Huge credit to PT for his performance and leadership there. introduction was very encouraging for developmental purposes and you feel that the squad has already used the first two games to start to grow a better reservoir of talent.
Hats off also to Cane, he is starting to show MCCaw type ability to step up his personal performances from an underwhelming Super Rugby showing.
Yes?
The point remains, 4 and a relatively inexperienced 5 & 6 had a faultless evening receiving kicks, so a tick for them.
I'm assuming les is taking the piss out of AC and that post is very tongue in cheek.pigaaaa wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:53 pmWhile I agree that appointing Foster was a mistake, ther is a lot of bullshit in this post.les@mooloolaba wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 amAnd after todays showing I am now of the opinion that Foster should go, along with all his assistants. Nothing I saw today made me think we were heading in the right direction and i cant recall such poor defence and poor general play at times. This is a mark of a poorly coached team.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
They all need to go, but we wont see that because of the nepotism and incest within NZR and I don't see us getting past the semi's at the next RWC with this shower.
Out of all the things you could have picked, defence was a clear strength of the AB’s over the first two games...
If they had nailed one or more of their several opportunities it might have put a different complexion on the game. Fair to say we improved a lot from Wellington and the Aussies regressed slightly. Their handling was poor and as you say no team should ever miss 41 tackles in a single game.Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:05 pm I don't think we will see Oz miss 41 tackles in a game again.
Some of those breaks (Clarke, Barrett and Perenara stand out in my memory) were far batter than they should have been because Aussie fell like flies.
Also, if Tomua stays on Oz would have been a lot better.
In short - we got lucky but we did help to make our own luck.
I am just as fiercely partisan when it comes to Canty and the Crusaders but the ABs come first with absolutely no partisanship involved. Just as is the case with AC.kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:21 amI've seen no evidence of this happening though.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
You're a Cants first and foremost poster - always have been. Everything done to the benefit of the All Blacks that had an impact on the Cants is view badly by you. You've never put the All Blacks first.
It's not a dishonest post and I expect you as a gentleman and a scholar to edit your post accordingly.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:58 amI am just as fiercely partisan when it comes to Canty and the Crusaders but the ABs come first with absolutely no partisanship involved. Just as is the case with AC.kiwigreg369 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:21 amI've seen no evidence of this happening though.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
You're a Cants first and foremost poster - always have been. Everything done to the benefit of the All Blacks that had an impact on the Cants is view badly by you. You've never put the All Blacks first.
Bollocks. please explain why there was a lack of defence out wide?pigaaaa wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:53 pmWhile I agree that appointing Foster was a mistake, ther is a lot of bullshit in this post.les@mooloolaba wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 amAnd after todays showing I am now of the opinion that Foster should go, along with all his assistants. Nothing I saw today made me think we were heading in the right direction and i cant recall such poor defence and poor general play at times. This is a mark of a poorly coached team.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 am I haven't seen any evidence that AB fans want the team to fail so that it reflects badly on Foster. That's just a dishonest post.
I am one of the most anti-Foster posters on this forum and I've said repeatedly that I'd love to be proven wrong, and for him to lead the AB's to great success. I've seen no evidence of this happening though.
They all need to go, but we wont see that because of the nepotism and incest within NZR and I don't see us getting past the semi's at the next RWC with this shower.
Out of all the things you could have picked, defence was a clear strength of the AB’s over the first two games...