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A truly mercurial talent . At times he just played with the Exeter defence , carving them open at will . His passing is quite possibly the best I’ve ever seen from a NH out half and he can mix it up with a creative kicking game

However, he was at fault for three of Exeter’s tries today and it’s not uncommon for him to do completely mad shit . So for all his talent , there’s not a hope Gatland will start him for the Lions
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Stuart Hogg looked quiet as well.

He could be another Scot, Warren marks an "X" on.
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He's a sensational fly half.

Probably needs an enforcer ala Farrell or Tuilagi next to him in defence though to cover for any deficiencies but it's between him, Ford or Farrell moved to 10 for the Lions.
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Scotland would be better sticking with Adam Hastings.
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Wendigo7 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 pm He's a sensational fly half.

Probably needs an enforcer ala Farrell or Tuilagi next to him in defence though to cover for any deficiencies but it's between him, Ford or Farrell moved to 10 for the Lions.
I don’t think it matters who you put around him tbh, he’s in a pivotal position on the pitch and the nature of his errors can’t really be covered by having a big player beside him . He’s always going to go for the big play and try low percentage kicks and passes that other players wouldn’t even see . He’s a joy to watch but often a liability
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iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:35 pm Stuart Hogg looked quiet as well.

He could be another Scot, Warren marks an "X" on.

I didn’t see him on the ball much tbh . Racing didn’t kick much to him and that’s when he’s at his most dangerous while Exeter did most of their damage through their forwards or Finn handing them the ball
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Conspicuous wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:33 pm A truly mercurial talent . At times he just played with the Exeter defence , carving them open at will . His passing is quite possibly the best I’ve ever seen from a NH out half and he can mix it up with a creative kicking game

However, he was at fault for three of Exeter’s tries today and it’s not uncommon for him to do completely mad shit . So for all his talent , there’s not a hope Gatland will start him for the Lions
Racing scrummies (which were both terrible) were actually much more at fault than him for those tries.
Russell was fine overall and brought far more good than bad for this team.
Basicly, if you had replaced any of racing SH with a Dupont, Racing would have probably won it in canter.
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Russell is a joke
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franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:33 pm A truly mercurial talent . At times he just played with the Exeter defence , carving them open at will . His passing is quite possibly the best I’ve ever seen from a NH out half and he can mix it up with a creative kicking game

However, he was at fault for three of Exeter’s tries today and it’s not uncommon for him to do completely mad shit . So for all his talent , there’s not a hope Gatland will start him for the Lions
Racing scrummies (which were both terrible) were actually much more at fault than him for those tries.
Russell was fine overall and brought far more good than bad for this team.
Basicly, if you had replaced any of racing SH with a Dupont, Racing would have probably won it in canter.
It was a poor pass from the scrum half that lead to his fumble in advance of the first try alright . Nothing to do with his poor grubbed that lead to the second though and the no look pass that was intercepted by Nowell was calamitous and entirely Finn’s fault
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I take it all back Quade.





Ok, not all of it but much of it.
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He's absolute wank, and has profitted vastly off the scottish hype train
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Theflier wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:39 pm He's absolute wank, and has profitted vastly off the scottish hype train
The Scottish hype train 😂😂😂. Just fill the lions with second class valleys retreads like the ‘geography six/seven’ pish
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He was an absolute liability today. No look passes are all very well and good but his basic error count was off scale.
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Amazing skillset.

Performing seal.
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Magpie26 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 pm I take it all back Quade.





Ok, not all of it but much of it.
Yes, clearly Russell is the brown QC
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Conspicuous wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:04 pm
franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Conspicuous wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:33 pm A truly mercurial talent . At times he just played with the Exeter defence , carving them open at will . His passing is quite possibly the best I’ve ever seen from a NH out half and he can mix it up with a creative kicking game

However, he was at fault for three of Exeter’s tries today and it’s not uncommon for him to do completely mad shit . So for all his talent , there’s not a hope Gatland will start him for the Lions
Racing scrummies (which were both terrible) were actually much more at fault than him for those tries.
Russell was fine overall and brought far more good than bad for this team.
Basicly, if you had replaced any of racing SH with a Dupont, Racing would have probably won it in canter.
It was a poor pass from the scrum half that lead to his fumble in advance of the first try alright . Nothing to do with his poor grubbed that lead to the second though and the no look pass that was intercepted by Nowell was calamitous and entirely Finn’s fault
Watch again the pass Russell received before making that interception pass.
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He had to take it over his head; but a good rugby player would then have taken contact and recycled, rather than try a "Hail Mary" that was now no longer on.
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camroc1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:52 pm He had to take it over his head; but a good rugby player would then have taken contact and recycled, rather than try a "Hail Mary" that was now no longer on.
Note that I never said he wasn't the main culprit on that play.
I'm just saying that his style of play is already risky enough to have en plus a SH near him who gives him hospital passes
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franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:57 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:52 pm He had to take it over his head; but a good rugby player would then have taken contact and recycled, rather than try a "Hail Mary" that was now no longer on.
Note that I never said he wasn't the main culprit on that play.
I'm just saying that his style of play is already risky enough to have en plus a SH near him who gives him hospital passes
Actually you did say that , you stated it quite clearly
Racing scrummies (which were both terrible) were actually much more at fault than him for those tries.
Russell was fine overall and brought far more good than bad for this team.
It’s hard to argue he was “fine overall” when he played a starring role in three of the opposition’s four tries. He’s 28 years old now and you would have hoped he’d managed to cut out the brainfarts at this stage while retaining his positivity in attack.
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Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
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I want to believe.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
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Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
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Conspicuous wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:49 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:35 pm Stuart Hogg looked quiet as well.

He could be another Scot, Warren marks an "X" on.

I didn’t see him on the ball much tbh . Racing didn’t kick much to him and that’s when he’s at his most dangerous while Exeter did most of their damage through their forwards or Finn handing them the ball
Got bounced by old man Zebo.
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PornDog wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:32 am
Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
Any player in the midweek team is one injury away from being in the test day squad. Russell is shit why would you take him at all
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:37 am
PornDog wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:32 am
Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
Any player in the midweek team is one injury away from being in the test day squad. Russell is shit why would you take him at all
I trhink we all maybe just a tad over-optimistic that the tour will even take place?
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Fantasyland is the only touring destination in which the Lions will be starting a 'live' test with Russell at ten.
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SaintK wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:54 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:37 am
PornDog wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:32 am
Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am

He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
Any player in the midweek team is one injury away from being in the test day squad. Russell is shit why would you take him at all
I trhink we all maybe just a tad over-optimistic that the tour will even take place?
I don't think anyone is being overly optimistic discussing who is going to be in the tour party. I just assumed everyone knows it's if the tour goes ahead. I don't see the point in starting each post with "If the tour goes ahead".
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:37 am
PornDog wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:32 am
Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am Agree with the OP. Farrell every day of the week for the test team. Russell can entertain us with the midweek team.
He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
Any player in the midweek team is one injury away from being in the test day squad. Russell is shit why would you take him at all
He isn't shit. He is a gamble. But look at it this way. The Lions are down 2 scores with 20 to go. You can play or continue to play Farrell but it all but guarantees a loss because Farrell has absolutely no ability to create or change the game in that situation. Which is why even under Eddie Jones England have the continuing problem of not being able to win matches they are behind in in the 2nd half. I believe Sexton and Ireland have this issue as well and he's a superior 10 to Farrell. On the other hand you throw on Finn Russell he might well go nuts and create you two chances to win that game.

I'm not saying he should start for the Lions, and he sure as fudge won't be, I am saying there is value in taking him. He can turn games around with his creativity, which is something I can't see any other Lions contender do except maybe George Ford.
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:37 am
PornDog wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:32 am
Frodder wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:11 am
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am

He is a liability. Why would you take him at all

Correct. Owen or Ford start. Biggar takes the mid week 10.

The Saffas will have a field day with Finn
Lets be fair here - as much as we complain about the shortening of the Lions Tour, the SA midweek sides are going to be absolute pish and will get walloped handily. I'd be surprised if two of the games were actually competitive. Russell will be perfect for them providing great entertainment along the way.
Any player in the midweek team is one injury away from being in the test day squad. Russell is shit why would you take him at all
He isn't shit. He is a gamble. But look at it this way. The Lions are down 2 scores with 20 to go. You can play or continue to play Farrell but it all but guarantees a loss because Farrell has absolutely no ability to create or change the game in that situation. Which is why even under Eddie Jones England have the continuing problem of not being able to win matches they are behind in in the 2nd half. I believe Sexton and Ireland have this issue as well and he's a superior 10 to Farrell. On the other hand you throw on Finn Russell he might well go nuts and create you two chances to win that game.

I'm not saying he should start for the Lions, and he sure as fudge won't be, I am saying there is value in taking him. He can turn games around with his creativity, which is something I can't see any other Lions contender do except maybe George Ford.

I agree with you to a point Eldan. I don’t believe he’s shit either , for a period of the match after Racing went 14-0 down he played sublime rugby and was instrumental in getting his side back into the game . His range of passing is quite incredible not just in the distance he can get in the ball but also the timing and weight of delivery. He also has a good kicking game to keep the opposition guessing even more .
Despite all his talent though I just can’t see a place for him in Gatlands match day squad . The coach has to consider a revised gameplan if his 10 does a Kyle Sinckler and he’s not going to want it involving Russell. Sure he brings something different, but the higher the levels the more you’re punished for your mistakes . There’s actually very few scenarios where I’d want Russell coming on for the Lions in a test , maybe in the last minute when we have a scrum or lineout in our own 22 and we can take a chance on his creative genius with nothing to lose . Have him in the pitch any longer and he’ll probably do more harm than good , if we’re being realistic
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He is a shit or bust player, and tends to try the miracle plays as soon as his team goes a point behind, but his pass to Huw Jones against England remains the best I’ve or will will see so he’ll always have credit.

Wouldn’t pick him though.
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Punter15 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 pm He is a shit or bust player, and tends to try the miracle plays as soon as his team goes a point behind, but his pass to Huw Jones against England remains the best I’ve ever or will ever see so he’ll always have credit.

Wouldn’t pick him though.
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If he's on a Lions team, and they're two scores down, he's probably responsible for both.
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Punter15 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 pm He is a shit or bust player, and tends to try the miracle plays as soon as his team goes a point behind, but his pass to Huw Jones against England remains the best I’ve or will will see so he’ll always have credit.

Wouldn’t pick him though.
Meh. It was probably a foot higher over an injured Joseph than the one Nowell picked off. Both were shit or bust.
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message #2527204 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:54 pm
Punter15 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 pm He is a shit or bust player, and tends to try the miracle plays as soon as his team goes a point behind, but his pass to Huw Jones against England remains the best I’ve or will will see so he’ll always have credit.

Wouldn’t pick him though.
Meh. It was probably a foot higher over an injured Joseph than the one Nowell picked off. Both were shit or bust.
But it was a foot higher (you joyless sphincter)
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Punter15 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:21 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:54 pm
Punter15 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:02 pm He is a shit or bust player, and tends to try the miracle plays as soon as his team goes a point behind, but his pass to Huw Jones against England remains the best I’ve or will will see so he’ll always have credit.

Wouldn’t pick him though.
Meh. It was probably a foot higher over an injured Joseph than the one Nowell picked off. Both were shit or bust.
But it was a foot higher (you joyless sphincter)
That wasn't the point (you joyful diverticulum)
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camroc1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:39 pm If he's on a Lions team, and they're two scores down, he's probably responsible for both.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Harsh!











But fair :nod:
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Yer Man wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:16 pm
camroc1 wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:39 pm If he's on a Lions team, and they're two scores down, he's probably responsible for both.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Harsh!











But fair :nod:
Missed that earlier, very good Cam :lol:
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Rugby is getting too predictable, I love watching Russell play, being a Racing or Jock supporter must be a joyride.
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