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Better kicker than Kearney
Better strike runner than Kearney
Jacob is the man
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:14 pm More of the same please, Murray.
The kick was unreal but his passing is killing us. JGP will hopefully speed it up
He blew a two man overlap and wouldn’t pass to his out half.
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While Keenan does look good (and not to take away from him on his debut), this match isn't really a challenge. Remember that Craig Gilroy looked good against Italy a few years ago - that's right, Craig Gilroy. And we all know how much of an international superstar he turned out to be.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:14 pm More of the same please, Murray.
The kick was unreal but his passing is killing us. JGP will hopefully speed it up
He blew a two man overlap and wouldn’t pass to his out half.
But he didn’t.
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Irish wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm Murray nearly butchered that.

He’s not used to passing at to the wings. Ask earls.
Well if he is passing towards the wings then he was probably expecting POM to be there so cant blame him for being surprised
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Irish wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm Murray nearly butchered that.

He’s not used to passing laterally out to the wings. Ask earls.

Lads keep the ball in hand.
He took two defenders out of the defensive line by cutting back in.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:14 pm More of the same please, Murray.
The kick was unreal but his passing is killing us. JGP will hopefully speed it up
He blew a two man overlap and wouldn’t pass to his out half.
You are genuinely a Clueless idiot. So blinded by your own dislike for a player that you can't acknowledge great play.
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feckwanker wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:17 pm While Keenan does look good (and not to take away from him on his debut), this match isn't really a challenge. Remember that Craig Gilroy looked good against Italy a few years ago - that's right, Craig Gilroy. And we all know how much of an international superstar he turned out to be.
Gilroy's try against Argentina was amazing.
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I wasn't sure at all about the positions picked for Keenan and Stockdale but the two them have had a fine first half.

Porter, Stander, Herring and Doris have been excellent as well.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:16 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:14 pm More of the same please, Murray.
The kick was unreal but his passing is killing us. JGP will hopefully speed it up
He blew a two man overlap and wouldn’t pass to his out half.
Ireland scored directly off his kick. :?
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If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
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diarm wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm I wasn't sure at all about the positions picked for Keenan and Stockdale but the two them have had a fine first half.

Porter, Stander, Herring and Doris have been excellent as well.
No mention for the best forward on the pitch Connors?
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
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Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
He got lucky. This is Italy we are playing.
He took the wrong option and not for the first time.
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Gilroy probably would have got more caps if it wasn’t for the wingers in competition. He was better at some facets such as attack but defence unfortunately wasn’t his strongest point.

Keenan and Gilroy are really different players so I wouldn’t compare them.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
If my mother had wheels she'd be a bicycle.
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Backrow, Murray, Keenan, and Stockdale all very good.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
diarm wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm I wasn't sure at all about the positions picked for Keenan and Stockdale but the two them have had a fine first half.

Porter, Stander, Herring and Doris have been excellent as well.
No mention for the best forward on the pitch Connors?
Clear MOTM so far. He’s like a lumberjack.
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Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:12 pm Class vision by Murray makes it a handy finish.

Hopefully Doris wasn't in the side or knock it on.
:lol:
There's no danger POM would have been in from the side or knocked on.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
He got lucky. This is Italy we are playing.
He took the wrong option and not for the first time.
Put the shovel down.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
diarm wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm I wasn't sure at all about the positions picked for Keenan and Stockdale but the two them have had a fine first half.

Porter, Stander, Herring and Doris have been excellent as well.
No mention for the best forward on the pitch Connors?
Thought he's been good but also been bounced a couple of times. Will take him a while to get used to the physicality of test rugby.

Porter has been the best forward on the pitch by a country mile.
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Munster-fogs wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
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So I think we have agreed Murray has been a disgrace but besides him?
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themaddog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:12 pm Class vision by Murray makes it a handy finish.

Hopefully Doris wasn't in the side or knock it on.
:lol:
There's no danger POM would have been in from the side or knocked on.
In fairness, we were fortunate that a knockon wasn't given...
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Luckily !

That could have been a run in - if he’d passed it. But honestly I am biased. I can’t stand the that he’s had no form for 32 months but nobody else gets a chance e if he’s fit. He’s slow slow slow.
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I’d urge my Irish friends not to take too much out of this game. You’re having an easy ride.
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Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
He got lucky. This is Italy we are playing.
He took the wrong option and not for the first time.
Put the shovel down.
:lol:

We played our best rugby with 14 men and Ringer at 9.
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Derwyn wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm I’d urge my Irish friends not to take too much out of this game. You’re having an easy ride.
That's what your ma said to me last night
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Irish wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm Luckily !

That could have been a run in - if he’d passed it. But honestly I am biased. I can’t stand the that he’s had no form for 32 months but nobody else gets a chance e if he’s fit. He’s slow slow slow.
:thumbup:

Finally somebody who understands overlaps.
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EverReady wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm
Derwyn wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm I’d urge my Irish friends not to take too much out of this game. You’re having an easy ride.
That's what your ma said to me last night
Speak yourselves, one look at her and I was pushing rope all night.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
He got lucky. This is Italy we are playing.
He took the wrong option and not for the first time.
Put the shovel down.
:lol:

We played our best rugby with 14 men and Ringer at 9.
Ya, no.

Put the shovel down, and have a deep breath or a wank or something. You're literally frothing.
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EverReady wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm
Derwyn wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm I’d urge my Irish friends not to take too much out of this game. You’re having an easy ride.
That's what your ma said to me last night
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Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:15 pm
New Guy 2 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:14 pm The worrying thing for Italy is teams dont even have to get out of second gear to hammer them these days.

You could see them going another 5 years without winning a game.
Whenever I say 5 Nations again everyone yelps about the money lost.
Which is a bit more pertinent now tbh.
They were good value 2000-2013 or so when their games were almost always competitive even if they didn't win many.

Since then their matches aren't even worth watching for neutrals.
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:20 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:19 pm
Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:18 pm If he had taken the correct option to pass to two unmarked players he wouldn’t have needed to kick it.
Put the shovel down.
He got lucky. This is Italy we are playing.
He took the wrong option and not for the first time.
Put the shovel down.
:lol:

We played our best rugby with 14 men and Ringer at 9.
Somebody’s not taking POM’s dropping very well.

:lol:
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:24 pm
Irish wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm Luckily !

That could have been a run in - if he’d passed it. But honestly I am biased. I can’t stand the that he’s had no form for 32 months but nobody else gets a chance e if he’s fit. He’s slow slow slow.
:thumbup:

Finally somebody who understands overlaps.
Find a backplay 101 manual and look up drifting defences and preventing them shutting down overlaps.
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Derwyn you need Mattie Williams in your life
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Derwyn wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:25 pm
EverReady wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm
Derwyn wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:22 pm I’d urge my Irish friends not to take too much out of this game. You’re having an easy ride.
That's what your ma said to me last night
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Flametop wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:26 pm

Somebody’s not taking POM’s dropping very well.

:lol:
How? POM shouldn't be starting. All I've said is that he probably makes more sense as a bench option than JvdF.

You're having a literal tantrum because Murray had the audacity to create a try with a world-class kick and vision.
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Ireland need to play a nippy, breaking scrumhalf inside Sexton. Or a nippy running outhalf outside Murray.

Together they are setting concrete.
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A scrum half who can’t pass.

:lol:

Actually it’s not funny.
He used to be such a good player.
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