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Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:53 pm
by TheFrog
France will be murdered by Ireland if they do not sort the discipline. They will take the 3pts and force yellow cards.

But good to see a good back line, always threatening. We have come back a long way from the shambles we were couple years ago.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm
by iarmhiman
:? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:55 pm
by Magpie26
French captain had a strong game and Fickou was very good too.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm
by Wendigo7

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm
by Magpie26
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
Of course you do. French discipline was very poor at times and Ireland will force more penalties and take more advantage.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:59 pm
by franch fan
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:47 pm
La soule wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:38 pm Take Dupont and Vakatawa out from this French team and this is a very ordinary team
You are still clueless I see.

Young team, doing well against an experienced side.

They have good potential.

Don't bother... he has no understanding of rugby.
Frog, Wales were average tonight and we were lucky that Biggar had probably his worst game ever with Wales in term of goal kicking.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:59 pm
by TheFrog
Magpie26 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:55 pm French captain had a strong game and Fickou was very good too.

French LHP (Baille), French hooker (Marchand), French captain (Ollivon), French 9 (Dupont), French 10 (N'Tamack), french 12 (Fickou), French 13 (Vakatawa) had excellent games.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm
by puku
When France decided to spark, they looked threatening. I can only see them getting better. I don't see much room for Wales to improve outside of Biggar having a better day kicking. I wonder if that upper ankle strain affected him?

Enjoyable game nonetheless and I enjoyed the Arabic commentary on my feed.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm
by TheFrog
franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:59 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:47 pm
La soule wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
franch fan wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:38 pm Take Dupont and Vakatawa out from this French team and this is a very ordinary team
You are still clueless I see.

Young team, doing well against an experienced side.

They have good potential.

Don't bother... he has no understanding of rugby.
Frog, Wales were average tonight and we were lucky that Biggar had probably his worst game ever with Wales in term of goal kicking.
Wales were white and France ill disciplined. There is much progress to be made for sure and Ireland will have a field day if we are that poor.

Apparently, if you listen to the Welsh commentators, there was a red card to be handed against Leroux as well and the red could have gone for a yellow too.

But you can't say that France are just about Dupont and Vakatawa...

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm
by Salanya
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
I've missed your optimism.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:07 pm
by Floppykid
Wendigo7 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-19161750

The lock will get binned for that.
Not that bad tbh.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:07 pm
by Floppykid
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:59 pm
Magpie26 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:55 pm French captain had a strong game and Fickou was very good too.

French LHP (Baille), French hooker (Marchand), French captain (Ollivon), French 9 (Dupont), French 10 (N'Tamack), french 12 (Fickou), French 13 (Vakatawa) had excellent games.
Yup, nature is healing, France are good again.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:08 pm
by iarmhiman
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
I've missed your optimism.
I've been watching a lot of cycling lately. Can't get over how good Mathieu Van der Poel is. Is he the biggest star in Netherlands now after Max?

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:09 pm
by TheFrog
puku wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm When France decided to spark, they looked threatening. I can only see them getting better. I don't see much room for Wales to improve outside of Biggar having a better day kicking. I wonder if that upper ankle strain affected him?

Enjoyable game nonetheless and I enjoyed the Arabic commentary on my feed.
this side is a young side learning to play as a unit. So far, I am satisfied of their progress. They have a lot of firepower but we need to progress up front.

We had a rough time in the rucks (though we managed some nice turn over too). Scrum and lineout were good (except for the one scrum we got smashed, but this was good trickery by the Welsh front row who moved forward a step before the engagement and forced our props to seat on their ankles before engaging).

Discipline is key, we need to know when to go for the turnover and when to stand by and prepare for the next phase. We need better support of the ball carier at the tackle.

And we have a lot of work to do in the air, but this is not new.

This game was entertaining, but let's not fool ourselves, this is the first game after a long period of break from rugby and the sides are rusty.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:10 pm
by Salanya
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:08 pm
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
I've missed your optimism.
I've been watching a lot of cycling lately. Can't get over how good Mathieu Van der Poel is. Is he the biggest star in Netherlands now after Max?
He's pretty big, but cycling still isn't as big as football or speedskating.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:13 pm
by TheFrog
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:07 pm
Wendigo7 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-19161750

The lock will get binned for that.
Not that bad tbh.
Yes, I struggle to see any malice in this.

As usual, sour grapes from the Welsh journalists who didn't waste time to try to create an issue and stain the French victory.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:14 pm
by puku
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:09 pm
puku wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm When France decided to spark, they looked threatening. I can only see them getting better. I don't see much room for Wales to improve outside of Biggar having a better day kicking. I wonder if that upper ankle strain affected him?

Enjoyable game nonetheless and I enjoyed the Arabic commentary on my feed.
this side is a young side learning to play as a unit. So far, I am satisfied of their progress. They have a lot of firepower but we need to progress up front.

We had a rough time in the rucks (though we managed some nice turn over too). Scrum and lineout were good (except for the one scrum we got smashed, but this was good trickery by the Welsh front row who moved forward a step before the engagement and forced our props to seat on their ankles before engaging).

Discipline is key, we need to know when to go for the turnover and when to stand by and prepare for the next phase. We need better support of the ball carier at the tackle.

And we have a lot of work to do in the air, but this is not new.

This game was entertaining, but let's not fool ourselves, this is the first game after a long period of break from rugby and the sides are rusty.
Absolutely. I see plenty of upside for the French team though. Weaknesses at 8 and 15? A lot of the work the #8 did was sloppy.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:15 pm
by iarmhiman
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:10 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:08 pm
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
I've missed your optimism.
I've been watching a lot of cycling lately. Can't get over how good Mathieu Van der Poel is. Is he the biggest star in Netherlands now after Max?
He's pretty big, but cycling still isn't as big as football or speedskating.
He's the next Eddy Merkckx. He has a tasty rivalry with Wout Van Aert from Flanders. They can't stand each each other. Their sprint in the Ronde Van Vlaanderen was pretty epic last week

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:19 pm
by La soule
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Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:22 pm
by La soule
La soule wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:19 pm
puku wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:14 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:09 pm
puku wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm When France decided to spark, they looked threatening. I can only see them getting better. I don't see much room for Wales to improve outside of Biggar having a better day kicking. I wonder if that upper ankle strain affected him?

Enjoyable game nonetheless and I enjoyed the Arabic commentary on my feed.
this side is a young side learning to play as a unit. So far, I am satisfied of their progress. They have a lot of firepower but we need to progress up front.

We had a rough time in the rucks (though we managed some nice turn over too). Scrum and lineout were good (except for the one scrum we got smashed, but this was good trickery by the Welsh front row who moved forward a step before the engagement and forced our props to seat on their ankles before engaging).

Discipline is key, we need to know when to go for the turnover and when to stand by and prepare for the next phase. We need better support of the ball carier at the tackle.

And we have a lot of work to do in the air, but this is not new.

This game was entertaining, but let's not fool ourselves, this is the first game after a long period of break from rugby and the sides are rusty.
Absolutely. I see plenty of upside for the French team though. Weaknesses at 8 and 15? A lot of the work the #8 did was sloppy.
He had a poor game today but was one of the highlights earlier in the year. He is 23. He has a good teacher with Vito!

15 is more of an issue I think. Ramos is our best option now in my opinion.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:22 pm
by MrDominator
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
Exactement, mon ami.

The last 20 years - where inferior breeds have routinely troubled the Anglo-French behemoths - has been an historical aberration.

Order is being restored, and not before time.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:23 pm
by TheFrog
Yes, our 8 had a bad game but he was indeed a force in the team in the first part of the 6N.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:25 pm
by Anonymous 1
puku wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:04 pm When France decided to spark, they looked threatening. I can only see them getting better. I don't see much room for Wales to improve outside of Biggar having a better day kicking. I wonder if that upper ankle strain affected him?

Enjoyable game nonetheless and I enjoyed the Arabic commentary on my feed.
Wales would be much better with Williams at full-back

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:26 pm
by clementinfrance
For a team that hasn't played in 7 months and had only 1 training session together before the game that was a very good game.

AW Jones has more caps than the entire French pack FFS. So errors and penalties were to be expected.

Although the Welsh were average, this is a good result.

Hopefully they can carry this enthusiasm into next week's game and give the Irish a tough match.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:27 pm
by Morgan14
Well played by the French, made life very tough in the rucks, no quick ball and lots of turnovers . And at least 3 fantastic tries, seriously fun to watch.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:31 pm
by Salanya
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:15 pm
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:10 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:08 pm
Salanya wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
I've missed your optimism.
I've been watching a lot of cycling lately. Can't get over how good Mathieu Van der Poel is. Is he the biggest star in Netherlands now after Max?
He's pretty big, but cycling still isn't as big as football or speedskating.
He's the next Eddy Merkckx. He has a tasty rivalry with Wout Van Aert from Flanders. They can't stand each each other. Their sprint in the Ronde Van Vlaanderen was pretty epic last week
It was. His Amstel Gold Race win last year was pretty epic.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:37 pm
by de_Selby
Magpie26 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:54 pm :? We dont have a prayer against these lads.

It's back to France and England dominating the 6 Nations from now on
Of course you do. French discipline was very poor at times and Ireland will force more penalties and take more advantage.
We don't have a hope. I thought Wales played pretty well today but France are on another level

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm
by Masterji
The Fr team needs more grunt from the locks and that's been a problem for a long time. I am not a fan of 10, he kicks well but doesn't even attempt to attack the line, mostly shovelling the ball on to the centres.Fickou impressed tonight and Thomas looked sharper than he has for a while. The 15 is solid but will never be a World beater or anything remotely close

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:23 am
by franch fan
Masterji wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm The Fr team needs more grunt from the locks and that's been a problem for a long time. I am not a fan of 10, he kicks well but doesn't even attempt to attack the line, mostly shovelling the ball on to the centres.Fickou impressed tonight and Thomas looked sharper than he has for a while. The 15 is solid but will never be a World beater or anything remotely close
Agree, solid but a bit of a journeyman who seriously lacks pace.
And lock is clearly the weak position in French rugby at the moment.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:25 am
by TheFrog
Masterji wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm The Fr team needs more grunt from the locks and that's been a problem for a long time. I am not a fan of 10, he kicks well but doesn't even attempt to attack the line, mostly shovelling the ball on to the centres.Fickou impressed tonight and Thomas looked sharper than he has for a while. The 15 is solid but will never be a World beater or anything remotely close
You missed one of the tries the French scored then, when N'Tamack spotted the dodgy Welsh defense and went for the gap before offloading to Dupont.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:05 am
by Laurent
I object about the royal flag being used i know some Welsh are extremely backwards but that's over 250 years ago

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:27 am
by Joost
franch fan wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:23 am
Masterji wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm The Fr team needs more grunt from the locks and that's been a problem for a long time. I am not a fan of 10, he kicks well but doesn't even attempt to attack the line, mostly shovelling the ball on to the centres.Fickou impressed tonight and Thomas looked sharper than he has for a while. The 15 is solid but will never be a World beater or anything remotely close
Agree, solid but a bit of a journeyman who seriously lacks pace.
And lock is clearly the weak position in French rugby at the moment.
Every French-qualified lock either seems to be: (a) a violent sociopath who gets carded every game; (b) a South African journeyman; or (c) both

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:40 am
by message #2527204
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:13 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:07 pm
Wendigo7 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:58 pm https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-19161750

The lock will get binned for that.
Not that bad tbh.
Yes, I struggle to see any malice in this.

As usual, sour grapes from the Welsh journalists who didn't waste time to try to create an issue and stain the French victory.
It's become the Welsh way. Sad really.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:23 am
by mdaclarke
Dupont had an awesome game. IF he continues his progress he will be the best player in the world before long

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:32 am
by AND-y
Still think that teams were treating this as a bit of a training/warm up game so can't take that much from it. That said French fans should be excited about their backline and Wales have been shite this year and there wasn't much to suggest that is changing.

I think Ireland's defence will hold up better and are more ruthless in the 22 so will be a different challenge for France.

Scotland have a real, real chance.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:15 pm
by TheFrog
AND-y wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:32 am Still think that teams were treating this as a bit of a training/warm up game so can't take that much from it. That said French fans should be excited about their backline and Wales have been shite this year and there wasn't much to suggest that is changing.

I think Ireland's defence will hold up better and are more ruthless in the 22 so will be a different challenge for France.

Scotland have a real, real chance.
The Welsh defense is definitely the number 1 worry. The lack of coordination when rushing opened gaps that France exploited clinically. Biggar also dropped 8 points from kicks that are usually within his range. I don't know why the Welsh management insisted to play an injured player.

The greatest improvement for France is that new ability to convert most opportunities into points. I hope they keep this up. They were clinical in their finishing with Wales and that made the difference. One can point out that they should have scored one more try (had Aldritt not dropped the ball over the line) but we are close to a 100% conversion of opportunities into scores. Discipline has to improve and while our commitment in the rocks slow the Welsh attack a lot and turned over a good number of ball, another referee would have brought a yellow card out earlier than that. Against Ireland, that sort of indiscipline will cost us dear.

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:23 pm
by franch fan
Joost wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:27 am
franch fan wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:23 am
Masterji wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:13 pm The Fr team needs more grunt from the locks and that's been a problem for a long time. I am not a fan of 10, he kicks well but doesn't even attempt to attack the line, mostly shovelling the ball on to the centres.Fickou impressed tonight and Thomas looked sharper than he has for a while. The 15 is solid but will never be a World beater or anything remotely close
Agree, solid but a bit of a journeyman who seriously lacks pace.
And lock is clearly the weak position in French rugby at the moment.
Every French-qualified lock either seems to be: (a) a violent sociopath who gets carded every game; (b) a South African journeyman; or (c) both
Yeah you're right :lol:
Can we have a French version of Itoje please? :P

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:19 pm
by Rowdy
Swap you for an English version of Dupont!

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:37 pm
by franch fan
Ok, you can keep your penalty and clapping machine then :D :P

Re: 🏳 Vs 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Fred

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:01 pm
by Conspicuous
TheFrog wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:23 pm Yes, our 8 had a bad game but he was indeed a force in the team in the first part of the 6N.
Alldritt is an exceptional player , surprised to hear he had a poor game . Hopefully he can have two in a row :D