Bledisloe 4 - Good v. Evil - Stolen Oz/NZ match thread

[Couch]

Wow Weber in one set of phases highlights TJ Perenaras shortcomings.

Webber doesn't tackle TJ does

[Fat Old Git]

Thanks for your kind words, Kiwi fans

Much appreciated

We needed that win so badly

It's what mates are for. Although I was a bit worried you guys might catch on to our plan to lift your spirits given how obvious some of our terrible passes were.... I mean, well played.

[CrazyIslander]

Was Koroibete binding onto the prop's balls at that last scrum? Marler got 10 weeks for touching testicles.

Yes, arm up between the legs.

[shanky]

Thanks for your kind words, Kiwi fans

Much appreciated

We needed that win so badly

It's what mates are for. Although I was a bit worried you guys might catch on to our plan to lift your spirits given how obvious some of our terrible passes were.... I mean, well played.

Staunch.

I’m so wrung out now. A hot mess.

[Jay Cee Gee]

Question - Tabai Matson was saying some shit about TMO process regarding Scott Barrett's card. Now I'm of the opinion that regardless of the regs, a stupid pen like that should be carded - BUT, is there some sort of 'foul play' limitation on what a TMO can flag?

[Wignu]

Deserved for Wallabies..ABs need to be punished for this performance and really poor decision making and accuracy in 2nd half.

and dirty play

Dick.

They were a yellow and a red suggest that, and they were lucky not to get a second yellow (just before Korebeite was carded the same thing happened to NZ at the other end).

Australia was no better. We need to sort out discipline.

Dont bother he's just a sore loser

And you're just a bitter twisted fvck of a person, pond scum of the lowest order.

[Flockwitt]

From an ABs perspective for mine:
Richie proven best 10
Don't think Reiko's going to cut it at 13. It's either wing or bust.
I'm a big TJ fan but he's not having his best season for whatever reason. Need to see more of Webber.
Ikira deserves another shot.
Court is still out on Reece for me. Some dumb penalties there.
Not sure Lumpy is going to cut it as an AB 12. Goodhue mixed up bash, step and distribution better.

[Zakar]

Question - Tabai Matson was saying some shit about TMO process regarding Scott Barrett's card. Now I'm of the opinion that regardless of the regs, a stupid pen like that should be carded - BUT, is there some sort of 'foul play' limitation on what a TMO can flag?

Talk about grasping And no.

[vh5150]

Thank god the ABs got the selection right last week and did the business. Tonight’s experiment, whilst valuable from a fact finding perspective, was a bust.

[Jay Cee Gee]

From an ABs perspective for mine:
Richie proven best 10
Don't think Reiko's going to cut it at 13. It's either wing or bust.
I'm a big TJ fan but he's not having his best season for whatever reason. Need to see more of Webber.
Ikira deserves another shot.
Court is still out on Reece for me. Some dumb penalties there.
Not sure Lumpy is going to cut it as an AB 12. Goodhue mixed up bash, step and distribution better.

It's the problem with mass changes though. I don't really disagree with any of your conclusions but it's hard to be sure of them when there's so many differences from last week.

[grievous]

and dirty play

Dick.

They were a yellow and a red suggest that, and they were lucky not to get a second yellow (just before Korebeite was carded the same thing happened to NZ at the other end).

Australia was no better. We need to sort out discipline.

Dont bother he's just a sore loser

And you're just a bitter twisted fvck of a person, pond scum of the lowest order.

aw cmon bro dont be like that

[Farva]

TJ is an amazing player. I’d love to have a player of that caliber in gold. Reece I’m not sold on. Scott Barrett is a liability for you guys. He is the ABs Simmons. Good for a few penalties against most games and also the off yellow card. Mounga for me is your starting 10, he is something else. B Barret to 15 for me. He is too good to leave out of the 15.

[Jay Cee Gee]

Question - Tabai Matson was saying some shit about TMO process regarding Scott Barrett's card. Now I'm of the opinion that regardless of the regs, a stupid pen like that should be carded - BUT, is there some sort of 'foul play' limitation on what a TMO can flag?

Talk about grasping And no.

I'm not grasping - I said he deserved the card, just wasn't sure of the protocol. Foul play is massively broad anyway, it includes 'spirit of the game' type shit.

[Fat Old Git]

Thanks for your kind words, Kiwi fans

Much appreciated

We needed that win so badly

It's what mates are for. Although I was a bit worried you guys might catch on to our plan to lift your spirits given how obvious some of our terrible passes were.... I mean, well played.

Staunch.

I’m so wrung out now. A hot mess.

I don't blame you!

Re being staunch, Chopper describes people from my city at around the 3.25 mark.

https://youtu.be/WcF9sYVuutM

[Wignu]

From an ABs perspective for mine:
Richie proven best 10
Don't think Reiko's going to cut it at 13. It's either wing or bust.
I'm a big TJ fan but he's not having his best season for whatever reason. Need to see more of Webber.
Ikira deserves another shot.
Court is still out on Reece for me. Some dumb penalties there.
Not sure Lumpy is going to cut it as an AB 12. Goodhue mixed up bash, step and distribution better.

Most certainly agree about Richie at 10, TJ had a reasonable game and at least didn't throw any grass burners although starting 9 just no.

Reece looked too desperate and just mucked up too much, Lumpy was very quiet and not sure if it was the marking as didn't watch him whole game but would seem to need a few games to get back into it.

[Brian9848]

Ardie and two Sammie's the only All Blacks playing tonight

Thought Akira was going really well too before he had to be subbed for red.

If punishment beatings are not an option, some benchings are definitely required. Barrett at lock for one, but front five needs a closer look. Perenara at 9 needs to be evaluated, but not sure Weber's kicking game can hold up at this level or that he takes the pressure off his 10 when needed. Laumape is a great Super rugby player but seems a little one dimensional when faced with the pace and intensity of test level defense.

[Bindi]

Sam Cane is a depressingly good bloke.

[tubbyj]

TJ can be an amazing super player but is not the 9 the All blacks need.

[Jay Cee Gee]

Question - Tabai Matson was saying some shit about TMO process regarding Scott Barrett's card. Now I'm of the opinion that regardless of the regs, a stupid pen like that should be carded - BUT, is there some sort of 'foul play' limitation on what a TMO can flag?

Talk about grasping And no.

WAIT A f**king MINUTE!

A match organiser may appoint a television match official (TMO), who uses technological devices to clarify situations relating to:
The grounding of the ball in in-goal.
Touch or touch-in-goal in the act of grounding the ball or the ball being made dead.
Where there is doubt as to whether a kick at goal has been successful.
Where match officials believe an infringement may have occurred in the playing area leading to a try or preventing a try.
Foul play, including sanctions.
Any of the match officials, including the TMO, may recommend a review by the TMO. The reviews will take place in accordance with the TMO protocol which is available at:

[Jay Cee Gee]

Oh wait


"A player must not:
Intentionally infringe any law of the game."

Shit.

[puku]

TJ is an amazing player. I’d love to have a player of that caliber in gold. Reece I’m not sold on. Scott Barrett is a liability for you guys. He is the ABs Simmons. Good for a few penalties against most games and also the off yellow card. Mounga for me is your starting 10, he is something else. B Barret to 15 for me. He is too good to leave out of the 15.

His net is a clear positive for me. Don't see him doing the same thing again...I hope

[Eugenius]

Pretty crap all round .

Glad the Wallabies won to be honest they needed it far more .

Fozzie is a dick !

[Zakar]

Question - Tabai Matson was saying some shit about TMO process regarding Scott Barrett's card. Now I'm of the opinion that regardless of the regs, a stupid pen like that should be carded - BUT, is there some sort of 'foul play' limitation on what a TMO can flag?

Talk about grasping And no.

WAIT A f**king MINUTE!

A match organiser may appoint a television match official (TMO), who uses technological devices to clarify situations relating to:
The grounding of the ball in in-goal.
Touch or touch-in-goal in the act of grounding the ball or the ball being made dead.
Where there is doubt as to whether a kick at goal has been successful.
Where match officials believe an infringement may have occurred in the playing area leading to a try or preventing a try.
Foul play, including sanctions.
Any of the match officials, including the TMO, may recommend a review by the TMO. The reviews will take place in accordance with the TMO protocol which is available at:

So...no foul play limitation. They can look at foul play. That was foul play.

[Brian9848]

If Foster doesn't kick Scott Barrett out of the squad for a lengthy period, it will be a mistake. For all his athleticism, his lack of discipline is too costly and he either gets the message or gets out.

[shanky]

Thanks for your kind words, Kiwi fans

Much appreciated

We needed that win so badly

It's what mates are for. Although I was a bit worried you guys might catch on to our plan to lift your spirits given how obvious some of our terrible passes were.... I mean, well played.

Staunch.

I’m so wrung out now. A hot mess.

I don't blame you!

Re being staunch, Chopper describes people from my city at around the 3.25 mark.

https://youtu.be/WcF9sYVuutM

Haha. That’s very funny

True though. Christchurch rocks.

[tubbyj]

Perenaras box kicking is as shit as his composure under pressure hence why he gets charged down so much.

[Olo]

A nice confidence builder and some reward for all the hard work recently but of course the Bled remains over the ditch.
Hodge has started twice for the Wobs at 10 and we have won both games. It will be interesting to see what happens from here. I offer him and Rennie a sincere apology for my initial judgement. Bell was very good on debut. Swinton, despite the yellow might be the 6 we have been looking for.
Tom Wright also had a very good debut.

As Shanky said, our blokes really needed this. The ABs once again fall to the dead rubber at Suncorp curse. Lots of feeling out there.

Interesting game from start to finish.

[Jay Cee Gee]

So...no foul play limitation. They can look at foul play. That was foul play.

I mean, that is a foul play limitation. The only thing they can look for in open play is foul play. But as I noted, foul play is reallly broad when it comes down to it.

[Anonymous 1]

Great to see a game where the kiwis were getting called for their blatant forward passing

[towny]

Nic White was poop.

[Zakar]

In a weird way, I'm glad Swinton got carded.

If we'd won by 10 or so with 15, the story would have focused on the fact the ABs were undermanned.

We put a lot of pressure through the forwards and generated mistakes out of the ABs.

[message #2527204]

Was Koroibete binding onto the prop's balls at that last scrum? Marler got 10 weeks for touching testicles.

Yes, arm up between the legs.

Thought so.. at least he didn't try and stick his head between the props legs.

https://youtu.be/oS9OTXqRhbE

[Brian9848]

Wallabies may have found a replacement for Fardy. Backrow and front row options are looking very good.

This squad could really benefit from an old-fashioned tour to he NH.

[Farva]

TJ is an amazing player. I’d love to have a player of that caliber in gold. Reece I’m not sold on. Scott Barrett is a liability for you guys. He is the ABs Simmons. Good for a few penalties against most games and also the off yellow card. Mounga for me is your starting 10, he is something else. B Barret to 15 for me. He is too good to leave out of the 15.

His net is a clear positive for me. Don't see him doing the same thing again...I hope

But it’s not the first time.

[tubbyj]

The worst part about the All Blacks performance reflecting on it was the red card seemed to really rile them up but instead of disciplined controlled fury it was tantrum throwing rage they exhibited. Was a real lack of leadership and planning to deal with such eventualities.

[Toro]

Well done OZ, better team today.

[puku]

TJ is an amazing player. I’d love to have a player of that caliber in gold. Reece I’m not sold on. Scott Barrett is a liability for you guys. He is the ABs Simmons. Good for a few penalties against most games and also the off yellow card. Mounga for me is your starting 10, he is something else. B Barret to 15 for me. He is too good to leave out of the 15.

His net is a clear positive for me. Don't see him doing the same thing again...I hope

But it’s not the first time.

Yeah mate.

[BBB]

The worst part about the All Blacks performance reflecting on it was the red card seemed to really rile them up but instead of disciplined controlled fury it was tantrum throwing rage they exhibited. Was a real lack of leadership and planning to deal with such eventualities.

Good post.

Couldn’t believe what I was watching.

[Jay Cee Gee]

Sam Cane giving Slipper a bottle of red for his 100th.

[Auckman]

Justin Harrison getting a bit carried away in the post-match. Koroibete's fulltime tackle apparently showed the "guys in the bush" that "this guy cares about our country..."