Bledisloe 4 - Good v. Evil - Stolen Oz/NZ match thread

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If we're really gonna talk whatabouttery, what about this sickening thuggishness from David Campese? He always was a hot head thug. This puts Cane to shame.

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Zakar wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:55 am
mr bungle wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:37 am
guy smiley wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:56 pm
Thomas wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:43 pm
Thomas wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:41 pm

Here's another example.

https://youtu.be/BJSlaHH0dGY?t=5428
I mean, the guy isn't a Dane Coles but he certainly isn't the calm McCaw.
:lol: :lol:

Wow.
:lol: I'd love to think Thomas is joking here, but he gets very sideways on supposed ABs thuggery. No one show him Kepu's RWC final highlights reel.
Classic whataboutery.

Kepus thuggery doesn't count because Colin Meads snapped Ken Catchpoles leg like a twig.
I don’t tend to vilify opposition players for merely tackling players off the side of a ruck. Thomas dominates that space on the bored ;) The fact he champions an actual thug like Kepu says a lot about how he views the game. He watches opposition players like mightyreds does refs.
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If we're doing whataboutery, what about the whole bloody Australian team singing Waltzing Matilda before the game? Eh, eh?
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Whatabout when NZ rudely rejected our generous offer to join the commonwealth. Grubs! :frown:
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Zakar wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:18 am Whatabout when NZ rudely rejected our generous offer to join the commonwealth. Grubs! :frown:
A poorly designed effort to get ownership of the Bledisloe by annexing the whole country. We were on to that one right from the start.
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obelixtim wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:07 am
Zakar wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:18 am Whatabout when NZ rudely rejected our generous offer to join the commonwealth. Grubs! :frown:
A poorly designed effort to get ownership of the Bledisloe by annexing the whole country. We were on to that one right from the start.
Look, if you'd managed to beat Bindi to the punch in this thread then none of this could've happened.
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5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period. The QRU and Reds have undertaken a 'bring the game back to the people' mission since Brad Thorn's arrival, and it's clearly working: the passion of the fans was wonderful to see.

. The team effort - every player was totally switched on.

And special mention to 3 gems of our game:
. Michael Hooper - in his 50th game, did what he has always done and gave everything. Regardless of the results during his time, he is one of the great Australian captains, always leading from the front whether in victory or defeat.
. Taniela Tupou. The Tongan boy who grew up in NZ but dreamed of playing for Australia like his Tongan heroes: Ilie Tabua, Toutai Kefu, Sekope Kepu and Israel Folau. What a match!
. Marika Koroibete. What a beacon of excellence! He was the best individual player at last years World Cup, but wasn't even considered by World Rugby for their Player of the Tournament, most likely because of bias against the Wallabies being 'hard to deal with' (ie people who say the rulings are inconsistent, when the rulings are inconsistent). The epitome of working hard off the ball, his flying kamikaze hit on McKenzie tied up the game in our favour.

And an honourable mention for Hodge. It seemed everybody except Dave Rennie doubted him at 10, but he turned in a very polished display, and suddenly we have great depth at flyhalf, with he, Lolesio, O'Connor and Harrison all capable of filling the role with distinction.
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mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period.
The kiwis are not using it as an excuse but it seems after securing the bledisloe for yet another year they lost focus and their coach rested the new Lomu. Do you think it's fair to say they would have cleaned your clock had that not been a dead rubber ?
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:58 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period.
The kiwis are not using it as an excuse but it seems after securing the bledisloe for yet another year they lost focus and their coach rested the new Lomu. Do you think it's fair to say they would have cleaned your clock had that not been a dead rubber ?
Anonny taking up the usual Kiwi supporter defence after a loss, how amusing.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:58 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period.
The kiwis are not using it as an excuse but it seems after securing the bledisloe for yet another year they lost focus and their coach rested the new Lomu. Do you think it's fair to say they would have cleaned your clock had that not been a dead rubber ?
It was not a dead f**king rubber!!! It was the second game of the Tri Nations with another 4 to come. Are these also dead rubbers?
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mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4
Michael Hooper - in his 50th game, did what he has always done and gave everything. Regardless of the results during his time, he is one of the great Australian captains, always leading from the front whether in victory or defeat.
That's a fairly shocking assessment for a Reds fan. Time was when Hoops would come 2nd last on every Green & Gold Rugby leaderboard, even when we won. Last was traditionally reserved for Foley.
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Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:06 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:58 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period.
The kiwis are not using it as an excuse but it seems after securing the bledisloe for yet another year they lost focus and their coach rested the new Lomu. Do you think it's fair to say they would have cleaned your clock had that not been a dead rubber ?
It was not a dead f**king rubber!!! It was the second game of the Tri Nations with another 4 to come. Are these also dead rubbers?
Never send a kiwi to the shops to buy a dead rubber.
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mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Marika Koroibete. What a beacon of excellence! He was the best individual player at last years World Cup, but wasn't even considered by World Rugby for their Player of the Tournament, most likely because of bias against the Wallabies being 'hard to deal with' (ie people who say the rulings are inconsistent, when the rulings are inconsistent).
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm Michael Hooper - in his 50th game
Uh

That was his 103rd game...
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Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:22 am Why did/does everyone refer to this as a dead rubber? The Tri Nations is still up for grabs, no?
That’s the great thing about the result, it breathes life into what could have been a dead championship if NZ had delivered another historic beating.

Australia would have zero points and NZ would be at something like +76 PD. Australia would have to beat Argentina by massive scores to just draw even on the table with the Kiwis, and rely on Argentina to beat NZ in both games by more than 7. The Argentinians would have a broader path but still very challenging. Now we still have a real prospect that any of three teams can win, only the Boks have fallen completely off the pace.

Easy to put the boot into Fozzie but his experimentation has kept the competition vibrant and managed to drag back some of the more fair weather Aussie fans we saw evaporate after the third game, along with our cherished neutrals. The rugby community owes him a huge debt of gratitude.
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Thomas wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:24 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm Michael Hooper - in his 50th game
Uh

That was his 103rd game...
As captain.

Or Bledisloe games this year.
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Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:06 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:58 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4

. Suncorp Stadium - 'Fortress Suncorp' with 7 straight wins, including a 2-0 ledger against the ABs in that period.
The kiwis are not using it as an excuse but it seems after securing the bledisloe for yet another year they lost focus and their coach rested the new Lomu. Do you think it's fair to say they would have cleaned your clock had that not been a dead rubber ?
It was not a dead f**king rubber!!! It was the second game of the Tri Nations with another 4 to come. Are these also dead rubbers?
It was a dead rubber. You will both humiliate the Argies and you were never going to get a bonus point and even if you did your points difference from the record humiliation the previous week means you just can't win this thing :(
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so how are the Argentinians?

still happy in their Hotel California?
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6.Jones wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:08 pm
mightyreds wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:44 pm 5 Things I loved about Bledisloe 4
Michael Hooper - in his 50th game, did what he has always done and gave everything. Regardless of the results during his time, he is one of the great Australian captains, always leading from the front whether in victory or defeat.
That's a fairly shocking assessment for a Reds fan. Time was when Hoops would come 2nd last on every Green & Gold Rugby leaderboard, even when we won. Last was traditionally reserved for Foley.
"Regardless of the results during his time, he is one of the great Australian captains".

Really, I tend to rate leaders by their results. He is a good player though.

50 odd games as captain, I think. Not many have more.
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Monk Zombie wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:36 pm so how are the Argentinians?

still happy in their Hotel California?
New South Wales has no restrictions for them so they can travel 500 km south, 800 km north, or 1,000 km west.

Still, they'll probably only clock up a fraction of that before flying back to BA next month.

In fairness, until then ... they can never leave. :P
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Mr Mike wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:22 am Why did/does everyone refer to this as a dead rubber? The Tri Nations is still up for grabs, no?
That’s the great thing about the result, it breathes life into what could have been a dead championship if NZ had delivered another historic beating.

Australia would have zero points and NZ would be at something like +76 PD. Australia would have to beat Argentina by massive scores to just draw even on the table with the Kiwis, and rely on Argentina to beat NZ in both games by more than 7. The Argentinians would have a broader path but still very challenging. Now we still have a real prospect that any of three teams can win, only the Boks have fallen completely off the pace.

Easy to put the boot into Fozzie but his experimentation has kept the competition vibrant and managed to drag back some of the more fair weather Aussie fans we saw evaporate after the third game, along with our cherished neutrals. The rugby community owes him a huge debt of gratitude.
You could have just said 'rugby was the winner'.
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Too many Aussies in this thread.

I'm out.
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Mr Mike wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:22 am Why did/does everyone refer to this as a dead rubber? The Tri Nations is still up for grabs, no?
That’s the great thing about the result, it breathes life into what could have been a dead championship if NZ had delivered another historic beating.

Australia would have zero points and NZ would be at something like +76 PD. Australia would have to beat Argentina by massive scores to just draw even on the table with the Kiwis, and rely on Argentina to beat NZ in both games by more than 7. The Argentinians would have a broader path but still very challenging. Now we still have a real prospect that any of three teams can win, only the Boks have fallen completely off the pace.

Easy to put the boot into Fozzie but his experimentation has kept the competition vibrant and managed to drag back some of the more fair weather Aussie fans we saw evaporate after the third game, along with our cherished neutrals. The rugby community owes him a huge debt of gratitude.
I’m sure that you and all the other AB supporters appreciate what he has done for you.
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Getting back to whataboutery, let’s not forget that time NZ broke away from the Australian / Antarctic supercontinent 85 million years ago.
What, do they think they are too good for us?
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Farva wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:33 am Getting back to whataboutery, let’s not forget that time NZ broke away from the Australian / Antarctic supercontinent 85 million years ago.
What, do they think they are too good for us?
The first example of Australia kicking out Kiwis that had lived there all their lives. Shameful.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:54 pm
Farva wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:33 am Getting back to whataboutery, let’s not forget that time NZ broke away from the Australian / Antarctic supercontinent 85 million years ago.
What, do they think they are too good for us?
The first example of Australia kicking out Kiwis that had lived there all their lives. Shameful.
Your island kept exploding, it's not our fault it couldn't follow the laws of the land.
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Zakar wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:34 pm
Jay Cee Gee wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:54 pm
Farva wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:33 am Getting back to whataboutery, let’s not forget that time NZ broke away from the Australian / Antarctic supercontinent 85 million years ago.
What, do they think they are too good for us?
The first example of Australia kicking out Kiwis that had lived there all their lives. Shameful.
Your island kept exploding, it's not our fault it couldn't follow the laws of the land.
Classic whataboutery. It wasn’t an island. It was a continent... and no Australian speaks for the law of any ancient lands. Not since 1788.
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Olo wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:12 am
Mr Mike wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:26 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:22 am Why did/does everyone refer to this as a dead rubber? The Tri Nations is still up for grabs, no?
That’s the great thing about the result, it breathes life into what could have been a dead championship if NZ had delivered another historic beating.

Australia would have zero points and NZ would be at something like +76 PD. Australia would have to beat Argentina by massive scores to just draw even on the table with the Kiwis, and rely on Argentina to beat NZ in both games by more than 7. The Argentinians would have a broader path but still very challenging. Now we still have a real prospect that any of three teams can win, only the Boks have fallen completely off the pace.

Easy to put the boot into Fozzie but his experimentation has kept the competition vibrant and managed to drag back some of the more fair weather Aussie fans we saw evaporate after the third game, along with our cherished neutrals. The rugby community owes him a huge debt of gratitude.
I’m sure that you and all the other AB supporters appreciate what he has done for you.
I’m not confident that everyone shares my generous instincts.
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I’m certainly deeply appreciative of your work here Mr Mike.
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guy smiley wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:03 pm I’m certainly deeply appreciative of your work here Mr Mike.
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Labelling Read a hot-head is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this bored. It's just dawned on me that Thomas's dislike of All Blacks stems from the fact that he just doesn't have much time for Kiwis. It occasionally manifests itself in his posts.

Sadly, he seems to play the man and not the ball.

Genuinely find this a bit sad. :?
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SilverGrin wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:14 am Labelling Read a hot-head is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on this bored. It's just dawned on me that Thomas's dislike of All Blacks stems from the fact that he just doesn't have much time for Kiwis. It occasionally manifests itself in his posts.

Sadly, he seems to play the man and not the ball.

Genuinely find this a bit sad. :?
He liked me when we met,I think...

He’s burned out with Bledisloe loss fatigue is all. It takes it’s toll.
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puku wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:20 pm Too many Aussies in this thread.

I'm out.
Wtf was that guy anyway?
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