TRI NATIONS 2020: All Blacks v Pumas MATCH THREAD: Nov 14, 06:10 GMT

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:59 am

Where: Parramatta, New South Wales - Australia

Venue: Bankwest Stadium - Capacity: 30,000

Who:

15.Beauden Barrett
14. Jordie Barrett
13. Anton Lienert-Brown
12. Jack Goodhue
11. Caleb Clarke
10. Richie Mo’unga
9. 0Aaron Smith
8. Ardie Savea
7. Sam Cane (c)
6. Shannon Frizell
5. Sam Whitelock
4. Patrick Tuipulotu
3. Tyrel Lomax
2. Dane Coles
1. Joe Moody

Reserves:

16. Codie Taylor
17. Alex Hodgman
18. Nepo Laulala
19. Tupou Vaa’i
20. Hoskins Sotutu
21. Brad Weber
22. Rieko Ioane
23. Damian McKenzie

Coach: Ian Foster

15. Santiago Carreras
14. Bautista Delguy
13. Matías Orlando
12. Santiago Chocobares
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Tomás Cubelli
8. Rodrigo Bruni
7. Marcos Kremer
6. Pablo Matera (c)
5. Matías Alemanno
4. Guido Petti
3. Francisco Gómez Kodela
2. Julián Montoya
1. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

Reserves:

16. Facundo Bosch
17. Mayco Vivas
18. Santiago Medrano
19. Santiago Grondona
20. Tomás Lezana
21. Gonzalo Bertranou
22. Lucio Cinti
23. Santiago Cordero

Coach: Mario Ledesma

When:

Kick-off

Saturday 14 November 2020, 19:10 (Wellington - New Zealand)
Saturday 14 November 2020, 17:10 (Sydney - Australia)
Saturday 14 November 2020, 06:10 (UTC)
Saturday 14 November 2020, 03:10 (Buenos Aires - Argentina)

History:

Played: 29
Won by New Zealand: 28
Won by Argentina: 0
Drawn: 1

Last 16 results:

20 Jul 2019 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 16 - 20 New Zealand
29 Sep 2018 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 17 - 35 New Zealand
8 Sep 2018 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 46 - 24 Argentina
30 Sep 2017 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 10 - 36 New Zealand
9 Sep 2017 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 39 - 22 Argentina
1 Oct 2016 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 17 - 36 New Zealand
10 Sep 2016 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 57 - 22 Argentina
20 Sep 2015 -- Rugby World Cup -- New Zealand 26 - 16 Argentina
17 Jul 2015 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 39 - 18 Argentina
27 Sep 2014 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 13 - 34 New Zealand
6 Sep 2014 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 28 - 9 Argentina
28 Sep 2013 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 15 - 33 New Zealand
7 Sep 2013 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 28 - 13 Argentina
29 Sep 2012 -- The Rugby Championship -- Argentina 15 - 54 New Zealand
8 Sep 2012 -- The Rugby Championship -- New Zealand 21 - 5 Argentina
9 Oct 2011 -- Rugby World Cup -- New Zealand 33 - 10 Argentina

Match Officials:

Referee - Angus Gardner (RA)

Assistant Referee 1 - Nic Berry (Aus)
Assistant Referee 2 - Paul Williams (NZ)

TMO - Ben O’Keeffe (NZ)

Weather Forecast:

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:16 am

Dammit, I'm going to be in the air during most of the match.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:19 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:16 am Dammit, I'm going to be in the air during most of the match.

What time is the kick-off in local time?

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:33 am

Saturday 14 November 2020 Kick Off: 17:10 local time

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:08 am

Carfer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:33 am Saturday 14 November 2020 Kick Off: 17:10 local time

Cheers, and JSsports will be broadcasting it live

kiap · Post by **kiap** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:09 am

Quality OP

¡Vamos Los Pumas!

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:20 am

Cheers

pigaaaa · Post by **pigaaaa** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:32 am

Can you guys tell me which of the four NZ - OZ games are counted as part of the Tri Nations?

Edit: quality OP by the way

Tussock · Post by **Tussock** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:03 am

pigaaaa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:32 am Can you guys tell me which of the four NZ - OZ games are counted as part of the Tri Nations?

The final 2 played in Aus.

pigaaaa · Post by **pigaaaa** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:05 am

Tussock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:03 am
pigaaaa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:32 am Can you guys tell me which of the four NZ - OZ games are counted as part of the Tri Nations?

The final 2 played in Aus.

Thx

MungoMan · Post by **MungoMan** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 am

If an announcer says 'The All Blacks are on fire here at Parramatta Stadium!', be worried. Be very worried.

kiap · Post by **kiap** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:31 am

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 am If an announcer says 'The All Blacks are on fire here at Parramatta Stadium!', be worried. Be very worried.

Blimminell. Is that the old Cumberland Oval grandstand?

What was the story - burnt down by some disgruntled fans or summat?

MungoMan · Post by **MungoMan** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:16 am

kiap wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:31 am
MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:25 am If an announcer says 'The All Blacks are on fire here at Parramatta Stadium!', be worried. Be very worried.

Blimminell. Is that the old Cumberland Oval grandstand?

What was the story - burnt down by some disgruntled fans or summat?

From memory, the Eels had won the premiership that year and setting fire to the stand was part of the 'celebrations'.

MungoMan · Post by **MungoMan** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:18 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:16 am Dammit, I'm going to be in the air during most of the match.

Long flight or slow plane?

kiap · Post by **kiap** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:34 am

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:16 am From memory, the Eels had won the premiership that year and setting fire to the stand was part of the 'celebrations'.

Ah, yes. Blimmin' mungos

Dead set!

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:09 am

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:18 am
Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:16 am Dammit, I'm going to be in the air during most of the match.
Long flight or slow plane?

1 hour 25 minutes on an Airbus A320. Basically just the bus home.

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:19 am

Habemus indumentis !

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:48 am

Good work on the OP Carfer, as always

I’ll miss this as I’m at work this week but I’m looking forward to catching it later... the chance to see another team in action is fantastic, regardless of expectations or predictions. Having test rugby back is fantastic. Best wishes for a good game..

and I do like that Pumas jersey set

Luciano · Post by **Luciano** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:52 am

I like the new alternative jersey.

PS: we are so dead against NZ

Puma · Post by **Puma** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:00 pm

Possible Pumas starting XV:
Santiago Carreras; Gonzalo Delguy, Matías Orlando, Santiago Chocobares & Juan Imhoff; Nicolás Sánchez & Tomás Cubelli; Marcos Kremer, Rodrigo Bruni & Pablo Matera (c); Matías Alemanno & Guido Petti Pagadizábal; Francisco Gómez Kodela, Julián Montoya & Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro.

ABs by at least 30...

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:08 pm

guy smiley wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:48 am Good work on the OP Carfer, as always

I’ll miss this as I’m at work this week but I’m looking forward to catching it later... the chance to see another team in action is fantastic, regardless of expectations or predictions. Having test rugby back is fantastic. Best wishes for a good game..

and I do like that Pumas jersey set

It's never too late to enjoy a good beating by the guys in black after they having a bit of a slip-up in the last game.
To the boats, my fellow countrymen, women and children first!

kiwigreg369 · Post by **kiwigreg369** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:49 pm

I wanted a few changes week to the AB team - got it - but they just weren't good enough (and ScoBa is a dickhead - on verge of having a serious discipline issue / not able to be trusted).

Looking to this week the ABs only have 2 games left this year - both against Arg.

I personally would be very tempted to stop rotating again and look for a very similar team (bar injuries and suspension). Possibly only change i would make is to give Whitelock a rest.

Think the team is out later today.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:07 pm

I might go to this. It’s $20 a ticket, for a test match!

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am

ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)

Puma · Post by **Puma** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am

Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)

F*ck me, they've called in the cavalry.

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:40 am

Puma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am
Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)
F*ck me, they've called in the cavalry.

mamadera!!!

Olo · Post by **Olo** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:58 am

Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:40 am
Puma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:39 am
Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)
F*ck me, they've called in the cavalry.
mamadera!!!

Crap. I think they are angry!

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:59 am

LOS PUMAS

1. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
2. Julián Montoya
3. Francisco Gómez Kodela
4. Guido Petti
5. Matías Alemanno
6. Pablo Matera - captain
7. Marcos Kremer
8. Rodrigo Bruni
9. Tomás Cubelli
10. Nicolás Sánchez
11. Juan Imhoff
12. Santiago Chocobares *
13. Matías Orlando
14. Bautista Delguy
15. Santiago Carreras

Reserves:

16. Facundo Bosch
17. Mayco Vivas
18. Santiago Medrano
19. Santiago Grondona
20. Tomás Lezana
21. Gonzalo Bertranou
22. Lucio Cinti *
23. Santiago Cordero

* uncapped players

Sonny Blount · Post by **Sonny Blount** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:08 am

Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)

Maybe we should have started this team last week?

Scott Barrett and TJ Perenara look to have paid for their performances last week.

Luciano · Post by **Luciano** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am

Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship

.

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:25 am

Great OP

Got my ticket. Half-way line (ish) second tier up. Only $90, good value for premium seat at a Test IMO

Looking forward to a cracking game.

jdogscoop · Post by **jdogscoop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:15 am

shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:25 am Great OP

Got my ticket. Half-way line (ish) second tier up. Only $90, good value for premium seat at a Test IMO

Looking forward to a cracking game.

Did they get you with the ol' bait and switch?

Strange to see this NZ team picked this week after the team picked last week.

Logic would dictate they should have been the other way around.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:16 am

Luciano wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship .

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?

Even though they won't say it, secretly I reckon that they wish their team were playing this weekend too.

brat · Post by **brat** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:29 am

Luciano wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship .

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?

Don’t you think we’re going through a lean patch fowards wise though

The backs are good- but fowards aren’t exactly scaring top opposition

booze · Post by **booze** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:33 am

Sonny Blount wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:08 am
Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:33 am ALL BLACKS TEAM TO PLAY ARGENTINA IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY NIGHT

1. Joe Moody (48)
2. Dane Coles (72)
3. Tyrel Lomax (4)
4. Patrick Tuipulotu (33)
5. Samuel Whitelock (120)
6. Shannon Frizell (12)
7. Sam Cane (72) - captain
8. Ardie Savea (47)
9. Aaron Smith (95)
10. Richie Mo’unga (20)
11. Caleb Clarke (3)
12. Jack Goodhue (16)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (47)
14. Jordie Barrett (21)
15. Beauden Barrett (86)

16. Codie Taylor (54)
17. Alex Hodgman (3)
18. Nepo Laulala (27)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (3)
20. Hoskins Sotutu (3)
21. Brad Weber (6)
22. Rieko Ioane (32)
23. Damian McKenzie (26)
Maybe we should have started this team last week?

Scott Barrett and TJ Perenara look to have paid for their performances last week.

Exactly they should have started this team last week. The 2 games against the pumas are ideal for rotation and experience building.

They have also given the impression that this is the A team even though they were saying they don’t have one after the loss to the wallabies

jdogscoop · Post by **jdogscoop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:35 am

It's no doubt part of Ian Foster's cunning plan.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:56 am

jdogscoop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:15 am
shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:25 am Great OP

Got my ticket. Half-way line (ish) second tier up. Only $90, good value for premium seat at a Test IMO

Looking forward to a cracking game.
Did they get you with the ol' bait and switch?

Strange to see this NZ team picked this week after the team picked last week.

Logic would dictate they should have been the other way around.

I reckon this will be a great game for the local rugger fans. I will be able to just enjoy the rugby instead of carrying on like a pork chop at every twist and turn. Will be a treat to watch the AB big guns against a talented Puma side. One of my favourite players, Matera, for MOTM!

jdogscoop · Post by **jdogscoop** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:58 am

shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:56 am
jdogscoop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:15 am
shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:25 am Great OP

Got my ticket. Half-way line (ish) second tier up. Only $90, good value for premium seat at a Test IMO

Looking forward to a cracking game.
Did they get you with the ol' bait and switch?

Strange to see this NZ team picked this week after the team picked last week.

Logic would dictate they should have been the other way around.
I reckon this will be a great game for the local rugger fans. I will be able to just enjoy the rugby instead of carrying on like a pork chop at every twist and turn. Will be a treat to watch the AB big guns against a talented Puma side. One of my favourite players, Madera, for MOTM!

Fair play to you. I must say I have never paid good money to go and see an international game here in which NZ were not involved.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:02 am

I’m also curious about BankWest stadium, which is supposed to be awesome.

Puma · Post by **Puma** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:10 pm

brat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:29 am
Luciano wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship .

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?
Don’t you think we’re going through a lean patch fowards wise though

The backs are good- but fowards aren’t exactly scaring top opposition

Oh, s*it. The ABs don't have three centurions in the pack, just one... they are doomed!!!!!!!!