TRI NATIONS 2020: All Blacks v Pumas MATCH THREAD: Nov 14, 06:10 GMT

Luciano · Post by **Luciano** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:38 pm

brat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:29 am
Luciano wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship .

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?
Don’t you think we’re going through a lean patch fowards wise though

The backs are good- but fowards aren’t exactly scaring top opposition

Just think for 5 seconds that the Pumas have not even been able to be scared by anyone this year

(bar one match against Australia F).

Is Foster scared to undervalue the Pumas, and that is why he is not doing something more experimental?

Olo · Post by **Olo** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 pm

If the ABs were beaten this weekend and then Australia won against the Pumas..........well, Fozzie would be up shit creek without a paddle

Mr Mike · Post by **Mr Mike** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:10 pm

jdogscoop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:58 am
shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:56 am
jdogscoop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:15 am
shanky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:25 am Great OP

Got my ticket. Half-way line (ish) second tier up. Only $90, good value for premium seat at a Test IMO

Looking forward to a cracking game.
Did they get you with the ol' bait and switch?

Strange to see this NZ team picked this week after the team picked last week.

Logic would dictate they should have been the other way around.
I reckon this will be a great game for the local rugger fans. I will be able to just enjoy the rugby instead of carrying on like a pork chop at every twist and turn. Will be a treat to watch the AB big guns against a talented Puma side. One of my favourite players, Madera, for MOTM!
Fair play to you. I must say I have never paid good money to go and see an international game here in which NZ were not involved.

Its a good experience, I have been to lots of test matches as a neutral and had a great time. Best is still probably Ellis Park 2002 for Wallabies v Boks, feral environment and last minute win.

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:52 pm

Luciano wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:51 am Now I understand why SA run away from the Championship .

Kiwi friends, that team is ... immoral. Cannot you put your C side instead please?

RWC champions run away? Boet, Covid...

obelixtim · Post by **obelixtim** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:39 pm

Olo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 pm If the ABs were beaten this weekend and then Australia won against the Pumas..........well, Fozzie would be up shit creek without a paddle

If there is any AB coach who would lose to Argentina for the first time ever, it would be Fozzie.

Luciano · Post by **Luciano** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:57 pm

obelixtim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:39 pm
Olo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 pm If the ABs were beaten this weekend and then Australia won against the Pumas..........well, Fozzie would be up shit creek without a paddle
If there is any AB coach who would lose to Argentina for the first time ever, it would be Fozzie.

I am both happy and sad by your statement

Olo · Post by **Olo** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:25 pm

obelixtim wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:39 pm
Olo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 pm If the ABs were beaten this weekend and then Australia won against the Pumas..........well, Fozzie would be up shit creek without a paddle
If there is any AB coach who would lose to Argentina for the first time ever, it would be Fozzie.

It’s highly unlikely as he is putting out your best possible side.....but you never know

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:37 pm

booze wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:33 am
Sonny Blount wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:08 am
Maybe we should have started this team last week?

Scott Barrett and TJ Perenara look to have paid for their performances last week.
Exactly they should have started this team last week. The 2 games against the pumas are ideal for rotation and experience building.

They have also given the impression that this is the A team even though they were saying they don’t have one after the loss to the wallabies

I am still a fan of trying out combinations against a stronger team in a game that doesn't really matter. What do you learn in a hiding (with apologies to Argies fans )?

Monkey Magic · Post by **Monkey Magic** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:22 pm

Olo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 10:59 pm If the ABs were beaten this weekend and then Australia won against the Pumas..........well, Fozzie would be up shit creek without a paddle

More likely up against a wall and shot - or at least spat on like a failed race horse

Whatever · Post by **Whatever** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:59 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:37 pm
booze wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:33 am
Sonny Blount wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:08 am
Maybe we should have started this team last week?

Scott Barrett and TJ Perenara look to have paid for their performances last week.
Exactly they should have started this team last week. The 2 games against the pumas are ideal for rotation and experience building.

They have also given the impression that this is the A team even though they were saying they don’t have one after the loss to the wallabies
I am still a fan of trying out combinations against a stronger team in a game that doesn't really matter. What do you learn in a hiding (with apologies to Argies fans )?

So long as they don't change 2/3 of the team. What do they learn from that, the B team isn't as good as the A team, but what about the individual players - which ones are capable of playing in the A team when they are all part of a losing effort.

It's simple science, you change just 1 variable at a time. If, for example, you want to see if Laumape might be a better option than Goodhue, then put him outside Smith & Mo'unga and give him the damn ball.

The AB selectors have form for doing this - making wholesale changes and not just a couple at a time - and it pisses me off; just seems like they aren't that bright.

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:08 am

Nike has finally made a nice jersey

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 am

badmannotinjapan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:08 am Nike has finally made a nice jersey

It is almost identical to Auckland's traditional jersey.

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am

Woot! Air NZ has the game on the the Koru lounge, so I should get to see the first 25 minutes before boarding.

Go the ABs!

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am

Bankwest is awesome

That haka was bouncing off the walls.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:14 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am Woot! Air NZ has the game on the the Koru lounge, so I should get to see the first 25 minutes before boarding.

Go the ABs!

In Auckland airport?

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:16 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:14 am
Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am Woot! Air NZ has the game on the the Koru lounge, so I should get to see the first 25 minutes before boarding.

Go the ABs!
In Auckland airport?

Yep. I am nicely placed in front of the screen with some nice cheese and crackers and a refreshing beverage.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:18 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:16 am
Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:14 am
Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am Woot! Air NZ has the game on the the Koru lounge, so I should get to see the first 25 minutes before boarding.

Go the ABs!
In Auckland airport?
Yep. I am nicely placed in front of the screen with some nice cheese and crackers and a refreshing beverage.

Well organised, my man!

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:18 am
Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:16 am
Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:14 am
Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 am Woot! Air NZ has the game on the the Koru lounge, so I should get to see the first 25 minutes before boarding.

Go the ABs!
In Auckland airport?
Yep. I am nicely placed in front of the screen with some nice cheese and crackers and a refreshing beverage.
Well organised, my man!

Well organised for the first 25 minutes anyway.

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:24 am

The worst thing about that Frizzell shove and subsequent handbags is that it prevented any replay of the no arms tackle that put Barrett down.

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 am

Actually agree with Marshall there - if you're gonna card cynical offences like Scott Barrett's, that should be a card also.

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:26 am

The broadcaster doesn't seem to have the same desire to show replays of these incidents over and over.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:26 am

Maul was over why can't you knock the ball out of the hand of a player running with it ?

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:27 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 am Actually agree with Marshall there - if you're gonna card cynical offences like Scott Barrett's, that should be a card also.

Straight up.

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:28 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:26 am Maul was over why can't you knock the ball out of the hand of a player running with it ?

Cause you're in front of the offside line and haven't been played onside.

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:28 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:24 am The worst thing about that Frizzell shove and subsequent handbags is that it prevented any replay of the no arms tackle that put Barrett down.

How they missed that...

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:31 am

Boarding early. Enjoy the game all.

Toro · Post by **Toro** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:34 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 am Actually agree with Marshall there - if you're gonna card cynical offences like Scott Barrett's, that should be a card also.

Not sure what Gus called there, he said the player hadn't changed his bind so he was fine in terms of the maul, then Smith took the ball out of the maul and he ripped the ball. He didn't say 'offside' just knocking the ball out of HB's hands.

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:34 am

Why is that against Ardie?

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:36 am

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:36 am

Toro wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:34 am
Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 am Actually agree with Marshall there - if you're gonna card cynical offences like Scott Barrett's, that should be a card also.
Not sure what Gus called there, he said the player hadn't changed his bind so he was fine in terms of the maul, then Smith took the ball out of the maul and he ripped the ball. He didn't say 'offside' just knocking the ball out of HB's hands.

It's been ruled for years that a player who is part of a maul or ruck who'd otherwise be in an offside position can't play the halfback when the ball is cleared.

Anyway, nice try by the Pumas good build up and pressure. Not sure about the pen advantage though, didn't seem like Cane actually played the ball.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:38 am

Everybody loves a bit of Argue bargy

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:39 am

I actually don't have any problem with trying to remove that shit from the game.

Hareaway · Post by **Hareaway** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:39 am

Lols ... whatever

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:40 am

Though putting Coles on a warning for it is absurd.

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:40 am

Jesus f**king christ

Jay Cee Gee · Post by **Jay Cee Gee** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:41 am

No arms? It wasn't even a tackle.

Gardner is losing it.

Hareaway · Post by **Hareaway** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:42 am

Australia ... killing my game ... fvck off

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:43 am

NO ARMS?????!!!!!? fudge OFF KHUNT!!!

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:43 am

Accusing the Argue of taking a dive when he got a vicious Scottish kiss. Well done Justin

Toro · Post by **Toro** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:43 am

Jay Cee Gee wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:40 am Though putting Coles on a warning for it is absurd.

That's a massive favour for us to be honest.