TRI-NATIONS 2020: Pumas v Wallabies MATCH THREAD: Nov 21, 08:45 GMT

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:30 pm

Puma wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:05 pm
Carfer wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:05 am 15. Santiago Carreras
14. Bautista Delguy
13. Matías Orlando
12. Santiago Chocobares
11. Juan Imhoff
10. Nicolás Sánchez
9. Tomás Cubelli
8. Rodrigo Bruni
7. Marcos Kremer
6. Pablo Matera (c)
5. Matías Alemanno
4. Guido Petti
3. Francisco Gómez Kodela
2. Julián Montoya
1. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro

Reserves:

16. Santiago Socino
17. Mayco Vivas
18. Santiago Medrano
19. Santiago Grondona
20. Facundo Isa
21. Gonzalo Bertranou
22. Emiliano Boffelli
23. Santiago Cordero

Head Coach: Mario Ledesma
How would they manage in case a replacement for Sanchez or any of the centres is needed?

Both Boffelli and Cordero are wingers / FB... and the Australians usually target those channels with their wingers running crossing patterns.

Ezcurra x Bertranou
Boffelli x Carreras & Carreras x Sánchez
Boffelli x Chocobares
Boffrlli x Orlando
Boffelli o Cordero x Imhoff
Boffelli o Cordero x Delguy
Boffelli o Cordero x Carreras

Bindi · Post by **Bindi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 am

Match day. Excited about this one; the 2 best teams in the Trinations going at each other for 80+

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:45 am

Bindi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 am Match day. Excited about this one; the 2 best teams in the Trinations going at each other for 80+

This will be good as a neutral. Not that I didn’t enjoy the Argies last week, just nice to watch two teams when your only hope is for a good, clean game.

Carfer · Post by **Carfer** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:51 am

mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:45 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 am Match day. Excited about this one; the 2 best teams in the Trinations going at each other for 80+
This will be good as a neutral. Not that I didn’t enjoy the Argies last week, just nice to watch two teams when your only hope is for a good, clean game.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am

mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:45 am
Bindi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 am Match day. Excited about this one; the 2 best teams in the Trinations going at each other for 80+
This will be good as a neutral. Not that I didn’t enjoy the Argies last week, just nice to watch two teams when your only hope is for a good, clean game.

That’s how I felt last week. Could just enjoy the game for a change.

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:41 am

In steel town for this
Never been to the ground before
Covid Sell out apparently 15k

wamberal · Post by **wamberal** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:00 am

grievous wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:41 am In steel town for this
Never been to the ground before
Covid Sell out apparently 15k

Formerly steel town. Not now.

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:36 am

wamberal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:00 am
grievous wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:41 am In steel town for this
Never been to the ground before
Covid Sell out apparently 15k
Formerly steel town. Not now.

Ali's Choice · Post by **Ali's Choice** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:48 am

Will be interesting to see if the Pumas, whose body shapes look to have changed massively since the COVID-19 lockdown, are able to play with the same energy and intensity as they did last week. They didn't fatigue for the entire 80 mins, in fact they looked to have more energy as the match wore on. NZR needs to sign the Pumas strength and conditioning coach asap, because the Argentinians have never looked in better shape.

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:50 am

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:48 am Will be interesting to see if the Pumas, whose body shapes look to have changed massively since the COVID-19 lockdown, are able to play with the same energy and intensity as they did last week. They didn't fatigue for the entire 80 mins, in fact they looked to have more energy as the match wore on. NZR needs to sign the Pumas strength and conditioning coach asap, because the Argentinians have never looked in better shape.

So you’re saying they are juicing?

Bindi · Post by **Bindi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:05 am

Slow cooked some beef ribs for 7 hours out of respect for our foes. IPAs are icy cold. I'm ready.

Bindi · Post by **Bindi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:42 am

Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:48 am Will be interesting to see if the Pumas, whose body shapes look to have changed massively since the COVID-19 lockdown, are able to play with the same energy and intensity as they did last week. They didn't fatigue for the entire 80 mins, in fact they looked to have more energy as the match wore on. NZR needs to sign the Pumas strength and conditioning coach asap, because the Argentinians have never looked in better shape.

Needy.

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am

Thats a try.

The law is if you don’t carry the ball into the in goal area it doesn’t matter where your feet are if you place the ball.

Ellafan · Post by **Ellafan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:10 am

Wallabies blowing chances all over the place.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:15 am

BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am Thats a try.

The law is if you don’t carry the ball into the in goal area it doesn’t matter where your feet are if you place the ball.

I think the law permitting the try scorer's body to be outside the in-goal area only applies when he is not carrying the ball but grounds it to score the try.

A try is scored when an attacking player who is in touch or touch-in-goal, grounds the ball in the opponents' in-goal provided the player is not holding the ball

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:18 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:15 am
BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am Thats a try.

The law is if you don’t carry the ball into the in goal area it doesn’t matter where your feet are if you place the ball.
I think the law permitting the try scorer's body to be outside the in-goal area only applies when he is not carrying the ball but grounds it to score the try.

A try is scored when an attacking player who is in touch or touch-in-goal, grounds the ball in the opponents' in-goal provided the player is not holding the ball

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:19 am

Tough penalty for illegal clearing on Hooper. Argentine was in contact with his ball carrying teammate when Hooper cleared him out.

The Optimist · Post by **The Optimist** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:20 am

Centers doing a little too much. Time to spread it.

Scrap that, have to go forward first to go wide.

Peaches · Post by **Peaches** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 am

Wallabies need a captain with higher IQ

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 am

BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:18 am
Kiwias wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:15 am
BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am Thats a try.

The law is if you don’t carry the ball into the in goal area it doesn’t matter where your feet are if you place the ball.
I think the law permitting the try scorer's body to be outside the in-goal area only applies when he is not carrying the ball but grounds it to score the try.

A try is scored when an attacking player who is in touch or touch-in-goal, grounds the ball in the opponents' in-goal provided the player is not holding the ball

The ruling was that he was holding the ball, therefore the correct ruling is no try.

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:25 am

Peaches wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 am Wallabies need a captain with higher IQ

You’re exceptional at stating the opposite of reality as fact.

Conspicuous · Post by **Conspicuous** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:28 am

mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:19 am Tough penalty for illegal clearing on Hooper. Argentine was in contact with his ball carrying teammate when Hooper cleared him out.

I think Williams apologised to Hooper for his error after the next play

Mullet 2 · Post by **Mullet 2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:32 am

Penalty? Our game has gone pathetic

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am

Good refereeing.

Tupou doesn’t need to get sucked into that stuff like a certain All Black did last week.

slow wing · Post by **slow wing** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am

Kick for the posts

Derwyn · Post by **Derwyn** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am

Always found that a bit strange. Both players in the wrong but because the one reacted then he is penalised.

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am

Tupou having a whinge even though he started it, much like the Wallaby hooker who got a couple of deserved shoves from Taylor a few seasons back.

Sanchez never far from niggle though, either.

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:36 am

Tupou just hit someone again.

Looks like he wants to get sucked in.

Mullet 2 · Post by **Mullet 2** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:38 am

Funny how the Taffs never shut up about Sexton when Hooper is talking to refs like this

Derwyn · Post by **Derwyn** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:39 am

Mullet 2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:38 am Funny how the Taffs never shut up about Sexton when Hooper is talking to refs like this

Michael Hooper is a whinging bitch tbf

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:39 am

Williams:"Remember what about questions vs statements?"

The Optimist · Post by **The Optimist** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:40 am

Would have taken a scrum, we got them at scrum time. Also they are getting niggly. Interesting game.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:40 am

mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am Tupou having a whinge even though he started it, much like the Wallaby hooker who got a couple of deserved shoves from Taylor a few seasons back.

Sanchez never far from niggle though, either.

It was because Sanchez tried to kick at the ball in a dangerous area. Tupou was trying to pick it up.

slow wing · Post by **slow wing** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:40 am

Interesting half. Have to say I enjoyed the Argies holding on under so much pressure for much of the half.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 am

BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:36 am Tupou just hit someone again.

Looks like he wants to get sucked in.

It was a little slap on the back.

MungoMan · Post by **MungoMan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:42 am

Scrappy game, but close. The Pumas have had so little possession it's hard to know what they can offer in attack.

We shall find out soon.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:43 am

Peaches wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:23 am Wallabies need a captain with higher IQ

No one cares what you think.

Honestly. I’m not making this up.

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:43 am

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 am
BBB wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:36 am Tupou just hit someone again.

Looks like he wants to get sucked in.
It was a little slap on the back.

His fist was closed and he swung pretty blindly.

He’s gotten away with it a couple times but needs to pull his head in before he costs his team.

shanky · Post by **shanky** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 am

mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am Tupou having a whinge even though he started it, much like the Wallaby hooker who got a couple of deserved shoves from Taylor a few seasons back.

Sanchez never far from niggle though, either.

I think he got a stray finger in the eye. Hence the over reaction

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 am

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:40 am
mr bungle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:33 am Tupou having a whinge even though he started it, much like the Wallaby hooker who got a couple of deserved shoves from Taylor a few seasons back.

Sanchez never far from niggle though, either.
It was because Sanchez tried to kick at the ball in a dangerous area. Tupou was trying to pick it up.

Just watched the replay again, don’t think his attempted kick was anywhere near a player, let alone the ball. Sanchez slapped the ball clear, and Tupou punched him in the arse. Still Tupou kicking it off.