England v Ireland, Sat Nov 21st, KO @ 1500

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redderneck wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm Feel sorry for JGP. He's trying too hard, but he HAS to cos his pack have gone AWOL
Yep.

Nice headlock there
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High tackle ignored
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We are going to be doing well to get nil
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How does George get away with that headlock on Keenan?
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Underhill looks like a real bastard to play against. Horrible. Perfect 7 material.
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
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We've got nothing in attack
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There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
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Under hill literally looking at the ref saying yeah I know I’m off my feet how did I get away with that?
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England's defence is superb.
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TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth
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This is just so shit. Constantly shovelling it back and forth, losing yards with each phase. Not one player with the ability to try a kick over the top or a grubber
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TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
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ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too
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Jesus Byrne sits back so deep.
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Front row being abused in the scrum and totally ineffective in the loose. Kelleher struggling to hit the playing field with most of his throws.

James getting a lesson in how to be a hyped second row from Itoje.

Backrow being beasted in every single aspect of backrow play. Someone called O'Mahony a passenger earlier but if he is, he missed the bus.

Halfbacks utterly lost. So far out of their level it's almost a different sport.

Centres abrasive but one dimensional with the ball. Farrell made look like an amateur by an admittedly world class May.

Back 3 haven't a chance. Lowe started like a scared JCT who has been called up to senior training for the craic but has settled well. Earls with the only piece of good play from us all day but hasn't really been involved otherwise. Keenan with one poor mistake but otherwise has faced up to an onslaught bravely.
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Very weird seeing Twickenham empty. Normally you'd get 82K people to this game and would have amazing atmosphere plus thousands in pubs in Twickenham and Richmond. We would have probably gone as well (I'm only 15 mins away). 2020 has sucked big time.
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Just can't live with their defense.

Lineout has been shit for a long time now. When are we going to sort it?
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth
Two Irish starts. Two disasters.

Ireland might have been better with Murray at 10.
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Porterbelly1 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm Ross Byrne got the shorts dirty. Didn’t see that coming
He's fronted up very well in defence tbf to him. Not what you need necessarily from your 10, but he's got bottle.
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WTF was Nige for the guillotine tackle?
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Is Henry Slade even playing?
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That last turnover by Underhill was simply world class stuff.
Him and Curry are incredible
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Ireland have to kick more as they can do nothing just running into this English defence.
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Couple of hits there by England, George and Itoje, neither intentional but they were penalties not given.
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Jumper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too
Lions captain they say. fudge off if I'm playing under that prick
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Static first receivers because we are afraid of taking contact in the ten channel.

Killing us.

We would be better off against teams likely to have us up front, playing a ten whose instincts are to run. Setpieces are not our friend.
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Byrne mixed things up nicely in the first ten minutes but he is a passenger now.

Getting rid on a lot of calls but we are lucky to still be in it.

Back row look their age.

Lineout has been an unmitigated disaster which is strange because there’s no obvious Ulster escape goat that we can blame.
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ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum

You'd love him if he was your plum. 8)
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Willie Falloon wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.
What does my post have to do with Munster?
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm We've got nothing in attack
Ross Byrne playing from the car park doesn't help.
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too
It’s another Kiwi export.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm Under hill literally looking at the ref saying yeah I know I’m off my feet how did I get away with that?


He’s looking at the ref holding the ball on his feet. That look you mean?
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Munster-fogs wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:44 pm This is humiliating.
12-0... it could be far worse. And has been very recently.
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Ireland simply have to move away from this multi phase one out stuff. Don't think England would be that good with that amount of energy being expended on simply retaining and muscling through the game line.

Need to manage energy better to move on as a team. Would give that forward pack a bloody rest too.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth
He could take a step forward and go down swinging. Offer something. He’s sat in the pocket and shoved the ball on like a hot potato playing like someone who doesn’t want to be tackled. Not good enough
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ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too
Lions captain they say. fudge off if I'm playing under that prick
I doubt you're in contention tbf
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Jumper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Jumper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.
What does my post have to do with Munster?
Because you've only insulted Leinster players so far. x(
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Itoje is a world class player but the amount of screaming and goading he does is off the scale.
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