England v Ireland, Sat Nov 21st, KO @ 1500

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

redderneck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm Feel sorry for JGP. He's trying too hard, but he HAS to cos his pack have gone AWOL

Yep.

Nice headlock there

Armchair_Superstar · Post by **Armchair_Superstar** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

High tackle ignored

Winnie · Post by **Winnie** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

We are going to be doing well to get nil

grimoald · Post by **grimoald** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

How does George get away with that headlock on Keenan?

Fruit and Nutt · Post by **Fruit and Nutt** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Underhill looks like a real bastard to play against. Horrible. Perfect 7 material.

ZuLu · Post by **ZuLu** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.

A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

We've got nothing in attack

TheBouncer · Post by **TheBouncer** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Under hill literally looking at the ref saying yeah I know I’m off my feet how did I get away with that?

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

England's defence is superb.

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.

No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth

Leinsterman · Post by **Leinsterman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

This is just so shit. Constantly shovelling it back and forth, losing yards with each phase. Not one player with the ability to try a kick over the top or a grubber

Jumper · Post by **Jumper** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.

They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.

earl the beaver · Post by **earl the beaver** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum

It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too

Floppykid · Post by **Floppykid** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Jesus Byrne sits back so deep.

diarm · Post by **diarm** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Front row being abused in the scrum and totally ineffective in the loose. Kelleher struggling to hit the playing field with most of his throws.

James getting a lesson in how to be a hyped second row from Itoje.

Backrow being beasted in every single aspect of backrow play. Someone called O'Mahony a passenger earlier but if he is, he missed the bus.

Halfbacks utterly lost. So far out of their level it's almost a different sport.

Centres abrasive but one dimensional with the ball. Farrell made look like an amateur by an admittedly world class May.

Back 3 haven't a chance. Lowe started like a scared JCT who has been called up to senior training for the craic but has settled well. Earls with the only piece of good play from us all day but hasn't really been involved otherwise. Keenan with one poor mistake but otherwise has faced up to an onslaught bravely.

TranceNRG · Post by **TranceNRG** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Very weird seeing Twickenham empty. Normally you'd get 82K people to this game and would have amazing atmosphere plus thousands in pubs in Twickenham and Richmond. We would have probably gone as well (I'm only 15 mins away). 2020 has sucked big time.

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Just can't live with their defense.

Lineout has been shit for a long time now. When are we going to sort it?

Jumper · Post by **Jumper** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth

Two Irish starts. Two disasters.

Ireland might have been better with Murray at 10.

grimoald · Post by **grimoald** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Porterbelly1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm Ross Byrne got the shorts dirty. Didn’t see that coming

He's fronted up very well in defence tbf to him. Not what you need necessarily from your 10, but he's got bottle.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

WTF was Nige for the guillotine tackle?

Punter15 · Post by **Punter15** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Is Henry Slade even playing?

franch fan · Post by **franch fan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

That last turnover by Underhill was simply world class stuff.
Him and Curry are incredible

IBWT · Post by **IBWT** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Ireland have to kick more as they can do nothing just running into this English defence.

Wendigo7 · Post by **Wendigo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Couple of hits there by England, George and Itoje, neither intentional but they were penalties not given.

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

Jumper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.

Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.

ZuLu · Post by **ZuLu** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too

Lions captain they say. fudge off if I'm playing under that prick

redderneck · Post by **redderneck** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Static first receivers because we are afraid of taking contact in the ten channel.

Killing us.

We would be better off against teams likely to have us up front, playing a ten whose instincts are to run. Setpieces are not our friend.

Armchair_Superstar · Post by **Armchair_Superstar** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Byrne mixed things up nicely in the first ten minutes but he is a passenger now.

Getting rid on a lot of calls but we are lucky to still be in it.

Back row look their age.

Lineout has been an unmitigated disaster which is strange because there’s no obvious Ulster escape goat that we can blame.

Fruit and Nutt · Post by **Fruit and Nutt** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum

You'd love him if he was your plum.

Jumper · Post by **Jumper** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Jumper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.

What does my post have to do with Munster?

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm We've got nothing in attack

Ross Byrne playing from the car park doesn't help.

Punter15 · Post by **Punter15** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too

It’s another Kiwi export.

bimboman · Post by **bimboman** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm Under hill literally looking at the ref saying yeah I know I’m off my feet how did I get away with that?

He’s looking at the ref holding the ball on his feet. That look you mean?

Rumham · Post by **Rumham** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Munster-fogs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:44 pm This is humiliating.

12-0... it could be far worse. And has been very recently.

Wendigo7 · Post by **Wendigo7** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Ireland simply have to move away from this multi phase one out stuff. Don't think England would be that good with that amount of energy being expended on simply retaining and muscling through the game line.

Need to manage energy better to move on as a team. Would give that forward pack a bloody rest too.

Porterbelly1 · Post by **Porterbelly1** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
No point in criticising him, he’s way out of his depth

He could take a step forward and go down swinging. Offer something. He’s sat in the pocket and shoved the ball on like a hot potato playing like someone who doesn’t want to be tackled. Not good enough

polyallstar · Post by **polyallstar** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
ZuLu wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm
earl the beaver wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:45 pm That should be a penalty against Itoje. You cannot shout like that on the opposition line out.
A real lack of class every time he steps on the pitch. Such a plum
It's the same law as for shouting during a kick, I've seen it penalised at club level but Itoje just screaming there really should be pinged too
Lions captain they say. fudge off if I'm playing under that prick

I doubt you're in contention tbf

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Jumper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:49 pm
Willie Falloon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Jumper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 pm
TheBouncer wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm There are 3 timezones between Ross Byrne and the nine each phase.
They are Pro14 standard players. That's no huge surprise.
Better than anything Munster have, apart from Murray, so shut yer hole.
What does my post have to do with Munster?

Because you've only insulted Leinster players so far.

IBWT · Post by **IBWT** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm

Itoje is a world class player but the amount of screaming and goading he does is off the scale.