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DOB wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:52 am Automation doesn’t have to mean unemployment. We had a fully automated grocery store here for a while, but they had about as much staff as a regular supermarket of the same size because they were constantly stocking the shelves and, yes, helping people who couldn’t work the self checkout.

Automation has always reduced the number of man-hours needed to do certain tasks, but overall that has freed people to do more tasks.

A friend posted a while back about indexing the minimum wage vs the mean or median wage and cost of living in each state. So Alabama’s min wage would actually be closer to $12/13, whereas California would be up near $20 (or more?). Obviously to make it work, that would be reassessed on a regular basis (the current federal min has been in place since well before I first came to CA in 2002, so it’s long overdue due an increase) so the broke states can’t just low-ball everybody forever.

Also, apparently most (as in, comfortably more than half, but depending on which account you read) undocumented immigrants do find a way to pay taxes. They generally want to apply for citizenship at some point down the line whenever the next amnesty comes up, and most of them think that having a record of paying taxes will look favorably for them when that time comes.
Sounds like a recipe for inflation
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New Zealand is the only government in the world to have published the results of an investigation into what it will cost to met the Paris climate accord & the EU 2050 carbon free target.

16% of GDP each and every year until 2050! Extrapolate* to the USA (2019 GDP $21427.70 bn) and that's (30 x 3448.4) = $102,852.96bn

The Dems better have found a way to rig the polls because once the public find out how much of their children's children's money Greenies want to spend emulating Canute I don't rate their chances.

*OK, there might be some economies of scale but
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Fat Albert wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:32 pm New Zealand is the only government in the world to have published the results of an investigation into what it will cost to met the Paris climate accord & the EU 2050 carbon free target.

16% of GDP each and every year until 2050! Extrapolate* to the USA (2019 GDP $21427.70 bn) and that's (30 x 3448.4) = $102,852.96bn

The Dems better have found a way to rig the polls because once the public find out how much of their children's children's money Greenies want to spend emulating Canute I don't rate their chances.

*OK, there might be some economies of scale but
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I think Biden is doing a good job in not getting bogged down in party politics and in remaining focused on his key objectives for the first 100 days
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Jensrsa wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:05 pm I think Biden is doing a good job in not getting bogged down in party politics and in remaining focused on his key objectives for the first 100 days
As long as Joe can maintain his record of not being an illiterate, ignorant, lying, hate-filled, orange, racist sack of shit that bitches and self-grandizes on Twitter the whole time, I think most people will agree that his first term has been a roaring success.
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When did Biden stop being racist?
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm When did Biden stop being racist?
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Fat Albert wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:32 pm New Zealand is the only government in the world to have published the results of an investigation into what it will cost to met the Paris climate accord & the EU 2050 carbon free target.

16% of GDP each and every year until 2050! Extrapolate* to the USA (2019 GDP $21427.70 bn) and that's (30 x 3448.4) = $102,852.96bn

The Dems better have found a way to rig the polls because once the public find out how much of their children's children's money Greenies want to spend emulating Canute I don't rate their chances.

*OK, there might be some economies of scale but
All them $bns are going to be spent on salaries providing an income for the children. So educate your children so they can survive in a knowledge based economy, that uses AI to do the dirty jobs.
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Big Nipper wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:48 pm Joe Rogan is a massive twat though, he hardly asks the hard questions to the "edgy" plums he gives airtime to
He's not a journalist though and not a twat for not being one. It's a Podcast of things he is interested in. Not a hard hitting news show.
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eldanielfire wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:09 pm
Big Nipper wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:48 pm Joe Rogan is a massive twat though, he hardly asks the hard questions to the "edgy" plums he gives airtime to
He's not a journalist though and not a twat for not being one. It's a Podcast of things he is interested in. Not a hard hitting news show.
He does end up being a platform for some out-there viewpoints, though.
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Short Man Syndrome wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:14 pm
Jensrsa wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:05 pm I think Biden is doing a good job in not getting bogged down in party politics and in remaining focused on his key objectives for the first 100 days
As long as Joe can maintain his record of not being an illiterate, ignorant, lying, hate-filled, orange, racist sack of shit that bitches and self-grandizes on Twitter the whole time, I think most people will agree that his first term has been a roaring success.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm When did Biden stop being racist?
Well before you became irrelevant
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DOB wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:30 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:09 pm
Big Nipper wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:48 pm Joe Rogan is a massive twat though, he hardly asks the hard questions to the "edgy" plums he gives airtime to
He's not a journalist though and not a twat for not being one. It's a Podcast of things he is interested in. Not a hard hitting news show.
He does end up being a platform for some out-there viewpoints, though.
Agreed. But it's because Rogan has an interest in these things Science, politics, technology, sport, great people, unique people, fighting and out there stuff like Aliens or likes exploring conspiracy theories somewhat or just for a laugh.

I mean remember the Diaz one where they talk about the 'Cuban Superman', essentially half an hour on a guy with a massive dick and all the rumours of who he banged (like Brando) and where he ended up after the revolution. He got Elon Musk to smoke weed on it. It's his podcast and he's presenting his interests, he certainly doesn't present it as news.
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But for oil and gas producers that have managed to keep production going, this is proving to be a big payday. Jerry Jones, the billionaire owner of the Dallas Cowboys, appears to be one of the beneficiaries.

Comstock Resources Inc., a shale driller that operates in Texas and Louisiana, told investors on an earnings call this week that the surge in natural gas prices was providing it with a major — albeit almost certainly temporary — financial boost. The company is publicly traded but Jones holds a majority of the shares.

"Obviously, this week is like hitting the jackpot," President and Chief Financial Officer Roland Burns said Wednesday.
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Texas Arkansas border. Guess which side is Texas

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Snow ploughers are on holiday in Cancun?
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On the subject of holidaying Texas representatives, whilst Cruz was sunning himself in Mexico that know-nothing socialist AOC just helped raise $1m in relief funds for Texas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5395 ... to-houston

It's all about leadership and caring about the American people.
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4071 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:32 pm On the subject of holidaying Texas representatives, whilst Cruz was sunning himself in Mexico that know-nothing socialist AOC just helped raise $1m in relief funds for Texas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5395 ... to-houston

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Up to $2m after 1 1/2 days
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Jensrsa wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:57 pm
4071 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:32 pm On the subject of holidaying Texas representatives, whilst Cruz was sunning himself in Mexico that know-nothing socialist AOC just helped raise $1m in relief funds for Texas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5395 ... to-houston

It's all about leadership and caring about the American people.
Up to $2m after 1 1/2 days
That might help pay some of the electricity bills that Texans are running up.

Because the Texas energy market is pretty much unregulated, this storm has been an absolute boon for the energy providers.

One girl on TikTok just showed her electricity bill for the first three days of this week. It's $3,260.

Many energy suppliers offer variable pricing, depending on demand and availability and the spot market for energy in Texas, due to the shortages, has seen prices sky-rocket.

Unregulated capitalism works so well! You can choose to freeze to death or bankrupt yourself. Exactly the sort of fair, rational decision-making that the free market supports.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/skyrocke ... 55286.html
Skyrocketing electricity prices in Texas are creating a financial windfall for power generators able to supply energy during the unprecedented cold spell. For companies unable to deliver, losses may be monumental.

Power sold on Texas’s main grid likely totaled $10 billion on Monday based on extraordinarily high prices and demand, according to Wade Schauer, research director of Americas power and renewables at Wood Mackenzie. It may end up being higher after the Public Utility Commission of Texas moved to raise some prices to reflect scarcity.

The most likely winners are going to be generators whose plants can sell power at $9,000 a megawatt-hour, the price cap in Texas.

A 100-megawatt wind farm in Texas that might have normally made almost $40,000 over a two-day period in February could reap more than $9.5 million on Monday and Tuesday alone, said Nicholas Steckler, a power-markets analyst at BloombergNEF.

“A lot of generators will make more than a year’s typical revenue just yesterday and today,” he said. “In the past five years, if generators could get several hours of scarcity in the summer, they were on their way to a good result for the year. Now, we’re talking days -- days of full scarcity.”

But for generators whose plants shut down due to frozen instruments, limited natural gas supplies or icing, losses could be substantial. Similarly, retail electricity providers unable to fulfill their commitments will be forced to buy power on the spot market at inflated prices, and sell it at one-tenth of the cost, said Andy DeVries, a power analyst at CreditSights.

Among major power producers, Calpine Corp. may be better insulated than others because it has the “smallest retail book,” DeVries said. Vistra Corp. and NRG Energy Inc., meanwhile, have larger retail exposures. NRG fell as much as 8.1% on Tuesday, the most in intraday trading in nearly 11 months. Vistra traded higher.

“We believe our integrated platform, having both a sizable retail presence in addition to a large and diverse generation fleet, is the best structure to mitigate volatility in a variety of wholesale power price environments, including in the current situation,” Vistra spokeswoman Meranda Cohn said in a statement.

NRG said it wasn’t able to comment on the status of its power hedging strategy because it was proprietary and financially material. Calpine didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Overall, power retailers in Texas are the most vulnerable to the price swings, DeVries said.

“The retailers are screwed,” he said. “I bet you see numerous bankruptcies.”
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Fat Albert wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:32 pm New Zealand is the only government in the world to have published the results of an investigation into what it will cost to met the Paris climate accord & the EU 2050 carbon free target.

16% of GDP each and every year until 2050! Extrapolate* to the USA (2019 GDP $21427.70 bn) and that's (30 x 3448.4) = $102,852.96bn

The Dems better have found a way to rig the polls because once the public find out how much of their children's children's money Greenies want to spend emulating Canute I don't rate their chances.

*OK, there might be some economies of scale but
Seat of the pants analysis of those figures would suggest that as a massive slice of NZs carbon output is the result of farming, particularly livestock and that also comprises a fair chunk of GDP then it’s not surprising the percentage you quote is where it is. Other economies may not see the same scale.

The question here is though, what’s the cost of doing nothing?
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4071 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:32 pm On the subject of holidaying Texas representatives, whilst Cruz was sunning himself in Mexico that know-nothing socialist AOC just helped raise $1m in relief funds for Texas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5395 ... to-houston

It's all about leadership and caring about the American people.
But she said something a little bit wrong about unemployment figures that one time, and she's not very hot for a Latina...so fudge the bitch
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BokJock wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm
4071 wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:32 pm On the subject of holidaying Texas representatives, whilst Cruz was sunning himself in Mexico that know-nothing socialist AOC just helped raise $1m in relief funds for Texas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5395 ... to-houston

It's all about leadership and caring about the American people.
But she said something a little bit wrong about unemployment figures that one time, and she's not very hot for a Latina...so fudge the bitch
Yeah that's totally it :lol:
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Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
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Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
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fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
That's not PR skills. She has other skillz. She is going to be a heavyweight in the future whether or not you agree with her politics. We have proper Trots here so I don't find her nearly as annoying as the American right and centre does
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Ted Cruz does what a Republican man does. ;)
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fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
Political skills mate, political skills. Shows what happens when somebody is young, motivated and has energy. She'd have had to scramble to set that up and get it into motion once she got the idea. And somebody's putting money into it who will now be on her record books.

And let's face it, it is a far superior way to put a knife into Cruz than say following Trump's play book.
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It's to her great credit that she can shame this man who tried to have her murdered.
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Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:50 pm
fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
Political skills mate, political skills. Shows what happens when somebody is young, motivated and has energy. She'd have had to scramble to set that up and get it into motion once she got the idea. And somebody's putting money into it who will now be on her record books.

And let's face it, it is a far superior way to put a knife into Cruz than say following Trump's play book.
I've only skimmed the article but it seems she basically added a link to her site where you could donate to organizations supporting relief efforts and tweeted it out? Is this incorrect?
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Burn.
I get it now. Ted and Heidi Cruz wanted their children to be safe, to have basic sanitary services like heat and running water, to leave behind a third-world apocalyptic nightmare for a safer place. Like so many parents before them, they decided to cross the Mexican border.
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fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:55 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:50 pm
fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
Political skills mate, political skills. Shows what happens when somebody is young, motivated and has energy. She'd have had to scramble to set that up and get it into motion once she got the idea. And somebody's putting money into it who will now be on her record books.

And let's face it, it is a far superior way to put a knife into Cruz than say following Trump's play book.
I've only skimmed the article but it seems she basically added a link to her site where you could donate to organizations supporting relief efforts and tweeted it out? Is this incorrect?
Perhaps, but who cares? More power to her if she's now got that kind of political pull. It's money going where its needed is the point. And giving Cruz the middle finger in the process. :thumbup:
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EverReady wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:47 pm
fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
That's not PR skills. She has other skillz. She is going to be a heavyweight in the future whether or not you agree with her politics. We have proper Trots here so I don't find her nearly as annoying as the American right and centre does
I kind of doubt it as I'm not really sure where she goes from here. It would be an uphill battle for her to carry NY at a statewide level. And honestly she's not had to really had to slug it out in the spotlight, in fact she's not really had to slug it out at all apart from when she primaried her also-lefty predecessor.

She's a decent hypeman for the already-converted. As I said, the Sarah Palin of the left.

It's not her politics that annoys me (I'm aight with Omar) it's her utter mediocrity and the fact that I cannot avoid this chick. Case in point: I skimmed past 4071's post and didn't clock the reference and STILL we ended up talking about her.
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There's no doubt that this is the biggest scandal to hit the GOP in probably a day.
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fatcat wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:55 pm It's to her great credit that she can shame this man who tried to have her murdered.
Who are you being creepy about here?
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Zico wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:06 pm
fatcat wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:55 pm It's to her great credit that she can shame this man who tried to have her murdered.
Who are you being creepy about here?
Change the phrasing of your question and I might have an idea what you mean.
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fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:05 pm
EverReady wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:47 pm
fonzeee wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:42 pm
Flockwitt wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 pm Have to admit she's good though. Free publicity from Cruz's doorstep while he's being raked over the coals... that's got to sting a bit :lol:
No one's doubting her PR skills
That's not PR skills. She has other skillz. She is going to be a heavyweight in the future whether or not you agree with her politics. We have proper Trots here so I don't find her nearly as annoying as the American right and centre does
I kind of doubt it as I'm not really sure where she goes from here. It would be an uphill battle for her to carry NY at a statewide level. And honestly she's not had to really had to slug it out in the spotlight, in fact she's not really had to slug it out at all apart from when she primaried her also-lefty predecessor.

She's a decent hypeman for the already-converted. As I said, the Sarah Palin of the left.
The Sarah Palin who made it to VP nominee? A bright future for AOC then.
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Meanwhile Munchin making sure Biden notices his weight in the Senate.

Biden's presidency won't be an easy ride.
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Jensrsa wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:12 am Texas Arkansas border. Guess which side is Texas

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All is well in this liberal Paradise :thumbup:

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