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fatcat wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:41 am
Ted. wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:22 am
fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:34 pm Biden given 4 Pinocchios by The Washington Post for his lies about the changes to Georgia's election laws. Unity Joe to the fore.
An excellent improvement over the previous fella. Well done Joe. :thumbup:
Indeed. It's improvementing and thumbs-uppy all round. Encouraging MLB to move their all-stars game, and the potential $100m revenue, from Atlanta (54% black), Georgia (one third black) to Denver (10% black), Colorado (4% black) was an inspired bit of unity and healing. :thumbup:
Oh boy, I see someone is watching the new late night show on Fox!!!

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Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:58 pm Becoming common knowledge most of the people that stormed the Capitol will not be getting jail time. Prosecutors in the D.C. Court have started off with grand rhetoric on charges but judges are starting to have none of it laid next to the evidence. Upon investigation the most they can charge a lot of the protesters with is "trespassing" because the vast majority that entered the Capitol did not destroy any property, which is not a felony but a misdemeanor. The one charge that comes up regarding to the certification of the Electoral College votes is "obstruction of an official meeting", but that charge en masse would then set off dominoes falling of any kind of political dissent that occurs inside the Capitol being treated it as a tough crime, because political protest disruptions obstructing business occur all the time in for example Committee hearings and meetings of the 2 houses.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ime-478440

Probably going to be a walk back of sorts from the Biden administration and Attorney General Merrick Garland who've talked tough but they can't back up their charges.
Imagine taking about this like it's a good thing

You're scum
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Big Nipper wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:40 am
fatcat wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:41 am
Ted. wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:22 am
fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:34 pm Biden given 4 Pinocchios by The Washington Post for his lies about the changes to Georgia's election laws. Unity Joe to the fore.
An excellent improvement over the previous fella. Well done Joe. :thumbup:
Indeed. It's improvementing and thumbs-uppy all round. Encouraging MLB to move their all-stars game, and the potential $100m revenue, from Atlanta (54% black), Georgia (one third black) to Denver (10% black), Colorado (4% black) was an inspired bit of unity and healing. :thumbup:
Oh boy, I see someone is watching the new late night show on Fox!!!

Gutfield! Absolute car crash opening show
I don't watch Fox, so no. Any good?
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I think fatcat has missed the point of voter suppression laws.
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Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:28 pm
Flyin Ryan wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:58 pm Becoming common knowledge most of the people that stormed the Capitol will not be getting jail time. Prosecutors in the D.C. Court have started off with grand rhetoric on charges but judges are starting to have none of it laid next to the evidence. Upon investigation the most they can charge a lot of the protesters with is "trespassing" because the vast majority that entered the Capitol did not destroy any property, which is not a felony but a misdemeanor. The one charge that comes up regarding to the certification of the Electoral College votes is "obstruction of an official meeting", but that charge en masse would then set off dominoes falling of any kind of political dissent that occurs inside the Capitol being treated it as a tough crime, because political protest disruptions obstructing business occur all the time in for example Committee hearings and meetings of the 2 houses.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ime-478440

Probably going to be a walk back of sorts from the Biden administration and Attorney General Merrick Garland who've talked tough but they can't back up their charges.
Imagine taking about this like it's a good thing

You're scum
You only really need to jail the genuine ring leaders and loons not the naive numpties who ended up involved in something they never expected to happen.
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The same naive numpties who Trump was fleecing by doubling or more the contributions they were trying to make to the Trump campaign?
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Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:40 pm I think fatcat has missed the point of voter suppression laws.
Cool story bro.
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fatcat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:23 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:40 pm I think fatcat has missed the point of voter suppression laws.
Cool story bro.
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Vaccine Joe flying through the vaccines.
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Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:41 pm
fatcat wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:23 pm
Mullet 2 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:40 pm I think fatcat has missed the point of voter suppression laws.
Cool story bro.
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You're hard work Mullet. You know everything and you're better than everyone. It's tough talking to you.
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Not everyone just you and the reacharound crew.

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piquant wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:55 pm The same naive numpties who Trump was fleecing by doubling or more the contributions they were trying to make to the Trump campaign?
On the subject of which, the GOP are still at it...

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-com ... &r=US&IR=T
GOP House fundraisers accuse people who uncheck their recurring-donation box of being Trump 'DEFECTORS' and prey to 'the Radical Left'

The National Republican Congressional Committee debuted a bright-yellow prechecked recurring-donation box on its donation page with a startling ultimatum.

The message from House Republicans' campaign arm — which caught the eye of many reporters on Wednesday — told people that it needed to know it hadn't "lost you to the Radical Left" and that if they opted out of making their donation a recurring one and "UNCHECK this box, we will have to tell Trump you're a DEFECTOR & sided with the Dems."

...

On the RNC's WinRed donation page on Wednesday, the yellow prechecked donation box said, "The Dems want you to uncheck this box and abandon President Trump, but we know you won't!"
Now, you might say that only a complete moron would fall for such blatant manipulation. But that's the point - that's the GOP base. It's a party that has built itself around funding either from greedy, self-interested sociopaths or the mentally... let's say 'divergent'.

Obviously the former group will want something in return for their money, and their interests are rarely going to align with interests of the latter group. So the latter group are simply being taken advantage of.
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Its actactually a good sign.

Corporate America is withdrawing support from the lunatic wing of the party and they are getting more desperate for funds. Which is great in a country that the biggest spender usually gets elected.
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Trump did spend big though, just without any money to back that up. And without money they started fleecing their own donors, and then after the election ran a 'cancel the election' campaign to raise donations for the legal teams to try and steal the election, but actually were largely to reimburse the money they'd in part have to repay to their own fleeced donors.
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Would be nice if Uncle Joe used a little bit of his honeymoon goodwill on gun control.

From the Grauniad:
The actions include a directive that the justice department, within the next month, issue proposed regulations on ‘ghost guns’ – unregistered firearms that can be assembled from parts.

Biden will also direct the justice department to clarify regulations to ensure that pistols fitted with stabilizing braces, which essentially transform them into rifles, will be regulated under the National Firearms Act. Pistols are cheaper, and easier to carry across state lines, whereas rifles are more regulated. ...

And the president will ask various agencies to direct more resources to community violence prevention measures, and call on the justice department to develop model ‘red flag’ laws – which allow family members to petition courts to take firearms away from people who are deemed a threat – for states to take up and adopt. Several states, including Colorado, already have red flag laws on the books.
I'm hoping that's not the full extent, but encouraging that it's a priority.

What gets through congress is, of course, another matter entirely.
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Hopefully Biden can do something about America's gun issues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_wIIlWmFFI
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Floppykid wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:43 pm Vaccine Joe flying through the vaccines.
Jealous.
At 21 000 MPH?
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Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
That' a great start to his presidency :thumbup:
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La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:29 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
That' a great start to his presidency :thumbup:
If you are into child abuse and looting.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:29 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
That' a great start to his presidency :thumbup:
If you are into child abuse and looting.
You cannot expect him to undo all the damage created by the previous incumbent so quickly.
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La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:29 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
That' a great start to his presidency :thumbup:
If you are into child abuse and looting.
You cannot expect him to undo all the damage created by the previous incumbents so quickly.
He is making it worse that it ever was under Trump and Obama.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:53 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:35 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:29 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
That' a great start to his presidency :thumbup:
If you are into child abuse and looting.
You cannot expect him to undo all the damage created by the previous incumbents so quickly.
He is making it worse that it ever was under Trump and Obama.
Of course he is.

I remember him leading that mob that stormed the capitol.
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Do you?

That is your fantasy. Good for you.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:04 pm Do you?

That is your fantasy. Good for you.
Also the time when he separated kids from their parents and kept them apart for months/years.

Some of the parents they could not trace back.

All of that in just 2 months. He is a monster.
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EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
Actually it has gone rather quiet as Mr Biden's supporters can now see him for the disaster that he really is.

All they can do is refer back to Trump.
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EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
<*stamps feet* I hate it when I can't post in an echo chamber and mean people have different opinions from me, they are nazis or something *stamps feet*>
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
Actually it has gone rather quiet as Mr Biden's supporters can now see him for the disaster that he really is.

All they can do is refer back to Trump.
What disaster Mick?

Trying to revive NATO?
Rejoining the Paris agreements on climate?
Telling the Russians he is keeping an eye on stuff?
Working more towards consensus that divisions?

But no, he is eating kids or something.....
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La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:52 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
Actually it has gone rather quiet as Mr Biden's supporters can now see him for the disaster that he really is.

All they can do is refer back to Trump.
What disaster Mick?

Trying to revive NATO?
Rejoining the Paris agreements on climate?
Telling the Russians he is keeping an eye on stuff?
Working more towards consensus that divisions?

But no, he is eating kids or something.....
And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
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piquant wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:52 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
Actually it has gone rather quiet as Mr Biden's supporters can now see him for the disaster that he really is.

All they can do is refer back to Trump.
What disaster Mick?

Trying to revive NATO?
Rejoining the Paris agreements on climate?
Telling the Russians he is keeping an eye on stuff?
Working more towards consensus that divisions?

But no, he is eating kids or something.....
And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
Seems that Mr Biden thinks it not pointless.

Or is this simply his vanity at work?

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration ... good-thing

Spin it however you feel best.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm Whilst Mr Biden is messing up the border, and throwing children into cages, at least his core support are comforting themselves with new trainers.
Mick is pro immigration now. :lol:
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Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:17 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm
La soule wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:52 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:10 pm
EverReady wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm The absolute state of this thread. If ever there was an example of how so few can füxk something up for so many it is here
Actually it has gone rather quiet as Mr Biden's supporters can now see him for the disaster that he really is.

All they can do is refer back to Trump.
What disaster Mick?

Trying to revive NATO?
Rejoining the Paris agreements on climate?
Telling the Russians he is keeping an eye on stuff?
Working more towards consensus that divisions?

But no, he is eating kids or something.....
And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
Seems that Mr Biden thinks it not pointless.

Or is this simply his vanity at work?

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration ... good-thing

Spin it however you feel best.
Picking up on the discretionary funding request for the coming financial year I'd noted Biden had cancelled the funding for new wall development, reallocated any left over monies from previous wall construction purposes, and was shifting development to modernising land ports of entry and improving border security technology.

And really Trump spent a fortune on in essence building 50 new miles of border. The rest of the border was mostly built by Bush Jnr, with a fair chunk of it finished off by Obama, the rest being 650 miles or so of the stuff.

And it hasn't worked, because it can't. You could double the exiting walls and it wouldn't offset the drivers of people wanting to move to the USA, and the USA being very keen on cheap labour
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piquant wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm

And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
Of course he's created the problems - promising citizenship to an existing 11m illegal immigrants and throwing out an open invitation to anyone wanting to make the journey. How can it possibly not be his fault?
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fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:04 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm

And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
Of course he's created the problems - promising citizenship to an existing 11m illegal immigrants and throwing out an open invitation to anyone wanting to make the journey. How can it possibly not be his fault?
If that frankly rather practical move wasn't on the table we'd still be getting huge numbers looking to cross the border. It's about safety, economic opportunity, the global climate problems and now to round that out nicely a pandemic, and none of this is addressed by a wall.

If anything the wall has driven up the number of people moving to the USA from south of the border, though perhaps the trend of people not migrating back and forth so much would've ended anyway.
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That's strange - in Trump's pandemic year the numbers reduced.
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fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:24 pm That's strange - in Trump's pandemic year the numbers reduced.
These things fluctuate.

2019

https://www.businessinsider.com/border- ... 07-2019-10
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fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:04 pm
piquant wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:14 pm

And it's not like he's creating the problem at the border, that's very much being driven by other factors. He's merely not looking to finance the ongoing build of a largely pointless vanity project
Of course he's created the problems - promising citizenship to an existing 11m illegal immigrants and throwing out an open invitation to anyone wanting to make the journey. How can it possibly not be his fault?
Resorting to hyperbole to make a point is not a good look. Btw, Biden has promised citizenship to 11 million illegal immigrants? You have a source for that?
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puku wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:29 pm
fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:24 pm That's strange - in Trump's pandemic year the numbers reduced.
These things fluctuate.

2019

https://www.businessinsider.com/border- ... 07-2019-10
Yes, as I said, they went down in the pandemic year of 2020. I believe March's figure is the highest monthly figure for around 20 years. Perhaps this is also fluctuation.
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That'
puku wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:29 pm
fatcat wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:24 pm That's strange - in Trump's pandemic year the numbers reduced.
These things fluctuate.

2019

https://www.businessinsider.com/border- ... 07-2019-10
And not all actions follow in immediate fashion. Though if someone wanted to discount the pandemic as a thing and focus on safety, economic opportunity and the global climate crisis as the drivers then it would make more sense than supposing saying mean things and building a few dozen miles of wall would make the difference
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