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shereblue wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:57 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:36 pm I think it depends on Carrie. If Carrie starts pushing her Woke agenda too much then the Tory MPs will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

Also if they feel the Coronavirus restrictions have gone on too long and are damaging the economy too much they will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

The Tory party is ruthless when it comes to getting rid of its leader
Sez the man who lectures Remainers about "democracy" :roll:
Boris won't drop Carrie. If Carrie puts her oar in too much the only way to stop it will be to get rid of Boris.
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mdaclarke wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:00 pm
shereblue wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:57 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:36 pm I think it depends on Carrie. If Carrie starts pushing her Woke agenda too much then the Tory MPs will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

Also if they feel the Coronavirus restrictions have gone on too long and are damaging the economy too much they will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

The Tory party is ruthless when it comes to getting rid of its leader
Sez the man who lectures Remainers about "democracy" :roll:
Boris won't drop Carrie. If Carrie puts her oar in too much the only way to stop it will be to get rid of Boris.
A gloriously typically sexist post :thumbup:
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What is sexist about not wanting the PM's baby-mother to run the country :lol:
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RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:10 pm What is sexist about not wanting the PM's baby-mother to run the country :lol:
This is the spin just like equating her with Mata Hari etc

Tbh they aren't far off the mark according to many.
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:10 pm What is sexist about not wanting the PM's baby-mother to run the country :lol:
This is the spin just like equating her with Mata Hari etc

Tbh they aren't far off the mark according to many.
I rest my case :lol: :lol:
https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-n ... e-symonds/
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:04 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:00 pm
shereblue wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:57 pm
mdaclarke wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:36 pm I think it depends on Carrie. If Carrie starts pushing her Woke agenda too much then the Tory MPs will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

Also if they feel the Coronavirus restrictions have gone on too long and are damaging the economy too much they will get rid of him and put Sunak in.

The Tory party is ruthless when it comes to getting rid of its leader
Sez the man who lectures Remainers about "democracy" :roll:
Boris won't drop Carrie. If Carrie puts her oar in too much the only way to stop it will be to get rid of Boris.
A gloriously typically sexist post :thumbup:
It would be the same if Denis Thatcher was interfering. Neither have been elected (nor have they been appointed as official government advisers).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... oomed.html

"This morning there is a vacuum at the heart of Government. And it cannot be filled by the Prime Minister’s fiancee. It can only be filled by the Prime Minister himself. As one Cabinet Minister explained: ‘The problem is, Dom and Lee could be sacked, but Carrie can’t. So if we get to the point people think she has to go, the only thing we can do is get rid of Boris himself.’ "
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Openside wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:56 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:20 am
EverReady wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:19 am Patel
That wouldn't be pretty
it certainly would be Priti :lol:
Jesus. Last to the joke as always.

Do you do this on purpose? :?
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:45 pm
SaintK wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:25 pm
Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:29 pm People have consistently underestimated Johnson. I'm not saying he's a good PM or even a competent one but it's difficult to argue that he doesn't know how to play the political game.
Nah.......Gove pulling the strings
I suppose Johnson knows how to use his popularity and knows to have the right sort of smart people around him to get things done.
Get things done like 70K dead and still can't deliver Christmas despite months to plan for it?

Thats the thing though, isn't it. They are so gripped with uncertainty and competing position that any coherent response is at least a change of government away.

Go well Britain. Perhaps show Europe the way and isolate yourselves properly. Beat the virus and you will be heroes.
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:49 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:45 pm People have short memories and BJ will win in 4 years. TBH the Tories will win with anybody charge because people don't trust Labour. I say anybody, perhaps not anybody as John Taylor found to his cost in 1992.
Wtf has Solihull's finest coiffured popster got to do with this?
Any Tory will beat a Labour guy except.....
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Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:49 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:45 pm People have short memories and BJ will win in 4 years. TBH the Tories will win with anybody charge because people don't trust Labour. I say anybody, perhaps not anybody as John Taylor found to his cost in 1992.
Wtf has Solihull's finest coiffured popster got to do with this?
Any Tory will beat a Labour guy except.....
Especially if they are hungry like wolves
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Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:49 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:45 pm People have short memories and BJ will win in 4 years. TBH the Tories will win with anybody charge because people don't trust Labour. I say anybody, perhaps not anybody as John Taylor found to his cost in 1992.
Wtf has Solihull's finest coiffured popster got to do with this?
Any Tory will beat a Labour guy except.....
John Taylor?
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Frodder wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:39 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:49 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:45 pm People have short memories and BJ will win in 4 years. TBH the Tories will win with anybody charge because people don't trust Labour. I say anybody, perhaps not anybody as John Taylor found to his cost in 1992.
Wtf has Solihull's finest coiffured popster got to do with this?
Any Tory will beat a Labour guy except.....
John Taylor?
Shh he is a Wild Boy from Rio
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:32 pm Why would twitter be up in arms?
I don't have Twitter btw
Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:32 pm Why would twitter be up in arms?
I don't have Twitter btw
Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
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eldanielfire wrote:I think also it's more like a 3/4 of the population to 1/4 according to this poll, most people support the Tier 4 measure
Yeah everyone that's not in it. :lol:
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:32 pm Why would twitter be up in arms?
I don't have Twitter btw
Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
EDF sees reds under the bed
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C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:32 pm Why would twitter be up in arms?
I don't have Twitter btw
Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
There are a few, just not many are English. The supports my theory that the game in England is populated with soul-less, reactionary toffs.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:21 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm

Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
There are a few, just not many are English. The supports my theory that the game in England is populated with soul-less, reactionary toffs.
I'd wager yoru theory is wrong. Lookinga t the elite clubs, there are more West Country clubs than anywhere else. Likewise for the midlands. Hardly posh bases.

The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:21 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:34 pm

Because it's a lefty stronghold.
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
There are a few, just not many are English. The supports my theory that the game in England is populated with soul-less, reactionary toffs.
Philip Toynbee had a point back in the day. If you went by this place you would say it still holds true...
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 pm
The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.

Since when is voting conservative = 'right-wing'?

This is where dialogue breaks down - people attach names to people, draw egregious conclusions and then proceed to get everything wrong from there.
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Philip Toynbee had a point back in the day. If you went by this place you would say it still holds true...
:thumbup:
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Rugby is middle class, the middle class is predominantly labour.

Upper and lower class are Tory.
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Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:30 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 pm
The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.

Since when is voting conservative = 'right-wing'?

This is where dialogue breaks down - people attach names to people, draw egregious conclusions and then proceed to get everything wrong from there.
You not a Nazi ?
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:43 pm Rugby is middle class, the middle class is predominantly labour.

Upper and lower class are Tory.


:uhoh:
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:43 pm Rugby is middle class, the middle class is predominantly labour.

Upper and lower class are Tory.
Lower class?

:lol: :lol:

Rugby is a Working Class game where I am from.
Cricket much more middle class but stillhas working class roots.
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:49 pm
Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:30 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 pm
The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.

Since when is voting conservative = 'right-wing'?

This is where dialogue breaks down - people attach names to people, draw egregious conclusions and then proceed to get everything wrong from there.
You not a Nazi ?


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Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:49 pm
Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:30 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 pm
The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.

Since when is voting conservative = 'right-wing'?

This is where dialogue breaks down - people attach names to people, draw egregious conclusions and then proceed to get everything wrong from there.
You not a Nazi ?


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i only count 269
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Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:50 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:43 pm Rugby is middle class, the middle class is predominantly labour.

Upper and lower class are Tory.


:uhoh:
I'm not sure about the lower class, they certainly are split these days but yes the middle class, certainly the urban middle class is Labour. Likewise Rugby certainly isn't a upper class sport, not these days.
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Hitler has only got one ball
Goring has two but very small
Himmler is rather sim'lar
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 pm
Muttonbirds wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:21 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:58 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:55 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
Is it?
Tbh on here I've not seen any left wing posters froth as much as you and EDF et al do about twitter.
But plenty do, and plenty here have referenced twitter storms, social media toxicity etc. And it's hugely influential on journalism and politics. I personally find it a useful platform when you ignore the political side to it. It is the main reason why I can keep up to date and engage with Women's Rugby for example.
Plenty?
I am not even sure there are more than a handful of posters on here that identify as left wing tbh
There are a few, just not many are English. The supports my theory that the game in England is populated with soul-less, reactionary toffs.
I'd wager yoru theory is wrong. Lookinga t the elite clubs, there are more West Country clubs than anywhere else. Likewise for the midlands. Hardly posh bases.

The only England none left wingers I know is Message, Bimboman, Toga and a few more of that group. I don't think in any UK Politics poll The right wing parties have outpolled the left wing ones.
I'd call myself soft left. I certainly disagree with shit loads of tories. I'm more usually a liberal voter in unextraordinary times ie realistic. What I disagree with is the utter horse shit that is peddled daily by the left wing on tw@tter and picked up from there by the meeja, which is then recycled on tw@tter again etc etc. Ad infinitum it seems.
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message #2527204 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:28 amI'd call myself soft left.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Plenty of right wing nut jobs sincerely believe they are socially conscious. It's so cute.
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Muttonbirds wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:33 am
message #2527204 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:28 amI'd call myself soft left.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Plenty of right wing nut jobs sincerely believe they are socially conscious. It's so cute.
Cool story, bro. But I'm not one of them.
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:roll:
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:(
Frodder wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:39 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:34 pm
C69 wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:49 pm
Masterji wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:45 pm People have short memories and BJ will win in 4 years. TBH the Tories will win with anybody charge because people don't trust Labour. I say anybody, perhaps not anybody as John Taylor found to his cost in 1992.
Wtf has Solihull's finest coiffured popster got to do with this?
Any Tory will beat a Labour guy except.....
John Taylor?
Yes
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End of January might be pushing it for Boris
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National lockdown get the fark on with it
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eldanielfire wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:06 pm
Fruit and Nutt wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:50 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:43 pm Rugby is middle class, the middle class is predominantly labour.

Upper and lower class are Tory.


:uhoh:
I'm not sure about the lower class, they certainly are split these days but yes the middle class, certainly the urban middle class is Labour. Likewise Rugby certainly isn't a upper class sport, not these days.
https://twitter.com/goodwinmj/status/13 ... 06634?s=21
Middle-class
Labour 40%
Conservative 36%

Working-class
Conservative 45%
Labour 32%

YouGov Dec 16
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Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:16 am National lockdown get the fark on with it
All of January.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:52 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:16 am National lockdown get the fark on with it
All of January.
To be fair January is a shite month anyway. Everyone is broke from Christmas, starting health regimes and back at work.
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