Is it time to ditch the trans-Tasman partnership?

[Muttonbirds]

Kiwi, Aussie and Kiwi/Aussie posters generally get on very well on this forum. This thread was created solely to incite tension between these groups of posters.

This thread was created to promote discussion about the Dutton policy of exporting, with added value, Australian crime to its nearest friend and neighbour. And to promote discussion about the deterioration of the trans-Tasman partnership because of that policy.

[shanky]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

[Muttonbirds]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

The events yesterday at the SCG support the claim Australia does have an issue with racism. How widespread is up for debate, but continually sweeping it under the carpet isn't going to help.

Don't think I've ever said all Australians are racist.

[kiwigreg369]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

I think you may wish to check your Latin and its meaning.

Please note - this is a comment just to Shanky, not a reflection on the general use of Latin by Australians.

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In relation to the thread:
- as articulated by Uncle FB I don’t get the rights of a full resident but I do appreciate the ability to live and work in Aus - it’s generous from Australia to do so
- I think Australia’s approach to exit individuals is largely wrong given the examples I’ve seen of these individuals being criminals in Australia
- the number of people involved are tiny so the actual impact is minimal. Given the loss of political good will it’s not a good look for Aus but it is Dutton.

[shanky]

How do you know that not what I meant, hey?

HEY?!

[shanky]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

The events yesterday at the SCG support the claim Australia does have an issue with racism. How widespread is up for debate, but continually sweeping it under the carpet isn't going to help.

Don't think I've ever said all Australians are racist.

It doesn’t matter. You’re Teflon anyway

Like I said, you’re good value otherwise

[kiwigreg369]

How do you know that not what I meant, hey?

HEY?!

[MungoMan]

How do you know that not what I meant, hey?

HEY?!

Your gifing in coming along well

[shanky]

I bags being the wolverine in this gif

Maximus looking a bit too podgy

[koroke hangareka]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

Glad we agree

[Sensible Stephen]

Muttonbirds is a bigot, at best....

[Zakar]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia, and this will never be forgiven. I like the lad myself, while accepting that he is, of course, a colossal dick.

He’s spent several years taking every opportunity to claim that Australian’s are universally racist. Not once, but dozens and dozens of times.

He’s not the only one who does it, but he’s certainly the most dedicated to the cause.

You obviously see no reason why someone would get upset about that, while seemingly being allowed to do it un-molested.

As I said above, I’ve given up being offended. Calling Aussies racists and getting away with it seems to be a causus belli on PR.

I think you may wish to check your Latin and its meaning.

Please note - this is a comment just to Shanky, not a reflection on the general use of Latin by Australians.

———-

In relation to the thread:
- as articulated by Uncle FB I don’t get the rights of a full resident but I do appreciate the ability to live and work in Aus - it’s generous from Australia to do so
- I think Australia’s approach to exit individuals is largely wrong given the examples I’ve seen of these individuals being criminals in Australia
- the number of people involved are tiny so the actual impact is minimal. Given the loss of political good will it’s not a good look for Aus but it is Dutton.

Calling Australians racist is a Perfectly valid casus belli and I look forward to our troops marching down Bowen street.

[grievous]

I bags being the wolverine in this gif

Maximus looking a bit too podgy

Have you seen him lately? Definitely Porkus Maximus going on.

[shanky]

I bags being the wolverine in this gif

Maximus looking a bit too podgy

Have you seen him lately? Definitely Porkus Maximus going on.

Yeah, he’s definitely been spending time at the buffet

[flaggETERNAL]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia

What he say?

Yeah I'd like to know now too. He seems an okay sort? Seems to have a thing for Oz...

[Ellafan]

I didn't see it, but apparently it was to do with bushfires.

[grievous]

He hoped the country burned along the lines of burn baby burn or something during the fires last year.
Were all racist so we deserve it I guess.

[guy smiley]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia

What he say?

Yeah I'd like to know now too. He seems an okay sort? Seems to have a thing for Oz...

According to a poster with a pretty clear anti MB agenda, MB posted on a NZ forum or blog some pretty nasty sentiment about bushfires and the victims of those events.

No link was offered to support the accusation. No actual quote was provided.

The alleged post was, if true and/or accurate, was pretty f**king nasty, along the lines of celebrating the death of victims.

Perhaps understandably, the highly emotive nature of such an accusation has been enough to condemn MB as guilty of the charge in the eyes of many here. Perhaps his years of successful trolling the Aussies fuels that desire for vengeance. The lack of proof doesn’t seem to have been a deterrent for the, well, as Grievy might say, pile on that has resulted from the accusation.

MB is a pain in the arse, I think that’s fair to say. He’s a pretty one dimensional sort of poster with a sort of single track agenda driving his posting. He hates the political Right and he’s refined the art of needling Australians about racism over the years. Bearing that in mind, an unfounded allegation from a 3rd party with an agenda regarding him does seem a tad unjust, unfair or even hysterical.

Precious, maybe.

[grievous]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia

What he say?

Yeah I'd like to know now too. He seems an okay sort? Seems to have a thing for Oz...

According to a poster with a pretty clear anti MB agenda, MB posted on a NZ forum or blog some pretty nasty sentiment about bushfires and the victims of those events.

No link was offered to support the accusation. No actual quote was provided.

The alleged post was, if true and/or accurate, was pretty f**king nasty, along the lines of celebrating the death of victims.

Perhaps understandably, the highly emotive nature of such an accusation has been enough to condemn MB as guilty of the charge in the eyes of many here. Perhaps his years of successful trolling the Aussies fuels that desire for vengeance. The lack of proof doesn’t seem to have been a deterrent for the, well, as Grievy might say, pile on that has resulted from the accusation.

MB is a pain in the arse, I think that’s fair to say. He’s a pretty one dimensional sort of poster with a sort of single track agenda driving his posting. He hates the political Right and he’s refined the art of needling Australians about racism over the years. Bearing that in mind, an unfounded allegation from a 3rd party with an agenda regarding him does seem a tad unjust, unfair or even hysterical.

Precious, maybe.

He posted it here Mr know-all
You said in here you hoped a poster got Covid, ahh it was Muttonchops I believe
Dont throw stones...

[jambanja]

He apparently made the mistake of posting something unpleasant about Australia

What he say?

Yeah I'd like to know now too. He seems an okay sort? Seems to have a thing for Oz...

According to a poster with a pretty clear anti MB agenda, MB posted on a NZ forum or blog some pretty nasty sentiment about bushfires and the victims of those events.

No link was offered to support the accusation. No actual quote was provided.

The alleged post was, if true and/or accurate, was pretty f**king nasty, along the lines of celebrating the death of victims.

Perhaps understandably, the highly emotive nature of such an accusation has been enough to condemn MB as guilty of the charge in the eyes of many here. Perhaps his years of successful trolling the Aussies fuels that desire for vengeance. The lack of proof doesn’t seem to have been a deterrent for the, well, as Grievy might say, pile on that has resulted from the accusation.

MB is a pain in the arse, I think that’s fair to say. He’s a pretty one dimensional sort of poster with a sort of single track agenda driving his posting. He hates the political Right and he’s refined the art of needling Australians about racism over the years. Bearing that in mind, an unfounded allegation from a 3rd party with an agenda regarding him does seem a tad unjust, unfair or even hysterical.

Precious, maybe.

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

[Ali's Choice]

Can we settle this issue once and for all? Can someone please post a link to Muttonbird's alleged trolling of bushfire victims? Because I don't believe it ever happened, and I'm certainly not taking grievous's word on anything. He's addicted to lying.

[guy smiley]

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

It was from one of the NZ political blogs, I think? Maybe Harvey’s posted it, or Harvey2?

He’d made a link to MB being the same poster but while it was an apparently reasonable link to make there was no proof it was the same poster...

That’s about it I think. Match your recall of it Jammy?

[Mr Mike]

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

It was from one of the NZ political blogs, I think? Maybe Harvey’s posted it, or Harvey2?

He’d made a link to MB being the same poster but while it was an apparently reasonable link to make there was no proof it was the same poster...

That’s about it I think. Match your recall of it Jammy?

This one?

viewtopic.php?p=6514483#p6514483

viewtopic.php?p=6515847#p6515847

[guy smiley]

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

It was from one of the NZ political blogs, I think? Maybe Harvey’s posted it, or Harvey2?

He’d made a link to MB being the same poster but while it was an apparently reasonable link to make there was no proof it was the same poster...

That’s about it I think. Match your recall of it Jammy?

This one?

viewtopic.php?p=6514483#p6514483

viewtopic.php?p=6515847#p6515847

The first of those two links is what I saw I think, thanks Mr Mike. I see the second link shows him apparently admitting to being the same poster, or at least not denying it.

[Ellafan]

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

It was from one of the NZ political blogs, I think? Maybe Harvey’s posted it, or Harvey2?

He’d made a link to MB being the same poster but while it was an apparently reasonable link to make there was no proof it was the same poster...

That’s about it I think. Match your recall of it Jammy?

This one?

viewtopic.php?p=6514483#p6514483

viewtopic.php?p=6515847#p6515847

I just clicked through to the standard thread. The post is post #7 by muttonbird, the 7 has nothing to do with the login name. Read his other posts. It would be an anti- miracle if there are two of them in existence.

I know Guy Smiley and I have no common ground, but I'm sure any reasonable minded person here will agree that his attempt at defence & deflection of muttonbird's bushfire post is a piss poor attempt to troll OZ posters.

[guy smiley]

I’m pretty sure I saw the quote, you’re right it was on another site, but someone here posted it and yes it was particularly nasty and at a very trying time for Australians

It was from one of the NZ political blogs, I think? Maybe Harvey’s posted it, or Harvey2?

He’d made a link to MB being the same poster but while it was an apparently reasonable link to make there was no proof it was the same poster...

That’s about it I think. Match your recall of it Jammy?

This one?

viewtopic.php?p=6514483#p6514483

viewtopic.php?p=6515847#p6515847

I just clicked through to the standard thread. The post is post #7 by muttonbird, the 7 has nothing to do with the login name. Read his other posts. It would be an anti- miracle if there are two of them in existence.

I know Guy Smiley and I have no common ground, but I'm sure any reasonable minded person here will agree that his attempt at defence & deflection of muttonbird's bushfire post is a piss poor attempt to troll OZ posters.

Here you go again trying to troll me through misrepresention. You’re a sadly twisted bloke when it comes to your guy smiley agenda.

I note no one else tried to clarify the issue of the hatred expressed by you and others towards MB. None of you could explain your bile. I tried to do so from memory. There is no defense or deflection on my part... I tried to clarify the background here.

You didn’t. You seem to prefer personal campaigns against individual posters with no attempt at providing any solid background for your bile. That seems to be quite toxic behaviour.

[grievous]

You seem to prefer personal campaigns against individual posters with no attempt at providing any solid background for your bile. That seems to be quite toxic behaviour.

No flies on you eh Guy. Do you have any ability for reflection on what you post, lecturing all and sundry.

[Ellafan]

You seem to prefer personal campaigns against individual posters with no attempt at providing any solid background for your bile. That seems to be quite toxic behaviour.

No flies on you eh Guy. Do you have any ability for reflection on what you post, lecturing all and sundry.

Grevious, had you not quoted that, I would not have had the opportunity to laugh at the irony of the grub projecting his own toxic posting style and trolling games onto other posters. Thank you.

[Ali's Choice]

Still waiting for one of the anti-MB posters to provide some evidence that he actually trolled bushfire victims. Surely such evidence will be easy to source since the bushfires happened just 12 months ago?

[Ellafan]

Still waiting for one of the anti-MB posters to provide some evidence that he actually trolled bushfire victims. Surely such evidence will be easy to source since the bushfires happened just 12 months ago?

Mr Mike already did that.

[Ali's Choice]

Still waiting for one of the anti-MB posters to provide some evidence that he actually trolled bushfire victims. Surely such evidence will be easy to source since the bushfires happened just 12 months ago?

Mr Mike already did that.

Can someone quote it please, my laptop won't let me open suspicious looking links?

[Ellafan]

Double post.

[Ellafan]

Check on messenger.

[Ali's Choice]

Okay MB, did you want to explain your comment linked by Mr Mike? Now's your chance to explain yourself.

[Ghost-Of-Nepia]

Okay MB, did you want to explain your comment linked by Mr Mike? Now's your chance to explain yourself.

Looks like he doesn't want to explain himself. What a shock.