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Kick off 7.35 Saturday evening.

Get your spite in. The ladies could be out of the Pro14 running if they lose this.
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What’s the weather supposed to be like for the match?

A dry-track would suit Munster. In particular Jean Kleyn’s wide carrying game could be too hot to handle for the Leinster defence and the conditions would be optimal for some Elite Support Forward-play. But then again Murray is likely to boot the ball away 50% of the time so Earls and Conway’s chasing game will be key.
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Freezing temperatures and the posiblity of snow tomorrow night in Limerick. Surely there’s a concern this match won’t go ahead at this stage
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Ruairi o Connor saying there is no risk to match

Both full strength with sexton starting
Ringrose possible, Lowe out
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rialtoblue wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:06 am Ruairi o Connor saying there is no risk to match

Both full strength with sexton starting
Ringrose possible, Lowe out
Good stuff 👍 I heard yesterday Ringrose is ready to go
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So what are we going to see in the backs?
McGrath
Sexton
O'Brien/Daverage
Henshaw
Ringrose
Larmour
Keenan

We're very short of back three players. Lowe and Byrne are still out and Kelleher seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth again.
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Much pre game bluster followed by a Leinster win

It was ever thus
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Talk of the kick off time being brought forward ?
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Leinster 3 point favorites. Anyone know who the ref is?
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Mullet 2 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:25 am Much pre game bluster followed by a Leinster win

It was ever thus
Yup, and it won't stop you this time either.
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Munster-fogs wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:17 am Leinster 3 point favorites. Anyone know who the ref is?
Ohhhh I really hope it’s Frank Murphy for the LoLs
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Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:23 am
Munster-fogs wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:17 am Leinster 3 point favorites. Anyone know who the ref is?
Ohhhh I really hope it’s Frank Murphy for the LoLs
Nearly as good, it's Brace
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:23 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:23 am
Munster-fogs wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:17 am Leinster 3 point favorites. Anyone know who the ref is?
Ohhhh I really hope it’s Frank Murphy for the LoLs
Nearly as good, it's Brace
Say it ain't so......

Bleurgh.
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2 very strong teams named. :o :o
Should be epic.
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And only 2 NIQ players between them.
Leinster starting 15 internationals have it all to lose.

Edit, 14 internationals and 6 on the bench, way too strong for us.
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Still no sign of Conway.
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Actually just looking at both teams, I see Leinster have an extra forward on the bench. Given the expected conditions I wonder if Munster should have done the same.
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Munster-fogs wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:14 pm Actually just looking at both teams, I see Leinster have an extra forward on the bench. Given the expected conditions I wonder if Munster should have done the same.
I hate when they do that nearly always it ends up with a load of backs being injured like against Connacht. Jimmy O'Brien on the wing must be there for Murrays box kicks, JOB most versatile player in Irish rugby, he has played every position in the backline bar scrumhalf now. If he does well surely should push him into Irish reckoning.
Irelands form winger unlucky and no Baird on bench either.
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No Harry Byrne, Leavy, or Baird for Leinster. Can't see any of them deserving to be in the 6N if they aren't in Leinster squads.

I can't really understand why the Scannell brothers are in the Munster squad.
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Munster-fogs wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:14 pm Actually just looking at both teams, I see Leinster have an extra forward on the bench. Given the expected conditions I wonder if Munster should have done the same.
Leinster have tended to opt for a 6/2 split against Munster.
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:05 pm And only 2 NIQ players between them.
Leinster starting 15 internationals have it all to lose.

Edit, 14 internationals and 6 on the bench, way too strong for us.
Agreed
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Jumper wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:38 pm No Harry Byrne, Leavy, or Baird for Leinster. Can't see any of them deserving to be in the 6N if they aren't in Leinster squads.

I can't really understand why the Scannell brothers are in the Munster squad.
Because they're good at rugby and you're not
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I promise in the true Leinster fashion:

If we lose: I'll be gracious in defeat
If we win. I'll brag, sneer and be as ungracious a winner as one could imagine
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Leinster with a 6/2 split on the bench. Poor ole Daverage, has had a great season so far and can't make the 23.

Big game for JoB.
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This season feels more like a Pro 4 competition.

Neither side need points from this game but it will be interesting to see who has the edge.

I think Munster will shade it, even without their fabled crowd behind them.
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iarmhiman wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:00 pm I promise in the true Leinster fashion:

If we lose: I'll be gracious in defeat
If we win. I'll brag, sneer and be as ungracious a winner as one could imagine
If we lose I'm going to pull a Jumper and claim it was the ref and big Pharma
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I just hope our lads do their mammies proud and don't get beaten too badly by big money Leinster
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:06 pm I just hope our lads do their mammies proud and don't get beaten too badly by big money Leinster
Its like Rocky IV.
Plucky Munster playing against the orcs of the Leinster injected with their Daddy’s credit card money and private education.
Hopefully Munster play the role of Rocky and not Apollo.
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Be careful what you wish for Jim. ;)
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:06 pm I just hope our lads do their mammies proud and don't get beaten too badly by big money Leinster
Snyman and DeAllende must be playing for free.
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When was the last time Munster beat us 15 v 15? That 1 win was after Lowe got sent off after 32 mins.
At least our greatest interpro rivals beat us 15 on 15 :thumbup:
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Below is Munsters Diack equivalent just reminds you how insufferable Munster fans are , printed day of Croke Park semi. :lol:
The Irish Times - Saturday, May 2, 2009

'Even staunch Blues now fear hiding

Time for fall guys to stand up and be counted
IN THE RED CORNER: Three years ago Munster fan NIALL KIELY found it hard to be humble when faced with Leinster's delusions of adequacy. Today, he says it is impossible to be humble and much easier to be patronising.

DREADFUL CANARDS and shameful slights are doing the rounds of Munster textland this weekend. Sly, sleekit, faux-innocent questions. This column agonised through a dark night of the soul before it became obvious that in our Information Age, it would be venal to break an SMS joke-chain. Thus:

Question one: What do you call a Leinster supporter in Europe after May 2nd?

Question two: Felipe Contepomi said what to the garda who caught him speeding?

Question three: What do General Pinochet and Leinster have in common? (Answers at the end.)

Seriously, though. Now that we’ve finalised the Larne- Stranraer bookings, I suppose the Croke Park business must be got through somehow. It might even prove a semi-decent warm-up for Edinburgh, though the suspicion lingers that a team with more need in the gut than Leinster might lay down a stiffer test.

Why has the gap widened to the extent that even staunch Blues are sweating bricks, and (the honest ones) now fear a hiding?

Liverpool would be pleased if their Boot Room succession- model of old was still delivering Munster-smooth continuity. In Leinster, Michael “Butch” Cheika and his Sundance farceur, David Knox, strutted into town and inherited a pretty decent, albeit soft-centred squad. What’s been developed in the years since?

Frankly, not much. Importing instant-fix, High Veldt muscle isn’t going to provide either a medium or long-term solution – given a pack that still doesn’t get the difference between “want” and “need” to win – and gives not even immediate succour when any bought-in, beef-to-the-heel Boer heifer has Achilles’ hooves.

The organisation? It gave us the farce of Felipe Contepomi’s cocked-up original registration. It managed to let slip easily the best outhalf package it ever had: neat, unshowy David Holwell, who looked the playmaker most likely to let slip the hounds of O’Driscoll and D’Arcy. Even the daft loss of press officer Pat Geraghty has been Munster’s considerable gain. And as for Isa Nacewa: Lord, have mercy.

Last month’s ticketing debacle? Leinster rushed into sales, made a mess of that, as well as the aftermath of the Ticketmaster fiasco. Some genius then tried to strong-arm the province’s clubs with dire threat of consequence should Reds appear in “Blue” seating: ye gods. And the clubs were short-changed and left angry over their miserly allocations.

The Leinster playing style? To the external tracker, there’s evident spoor of internal dissonance. Is the “Real Leinster” the team which wiped Wasps off the RDS pitch, or the side which limped through the later ERC pool games – or is it the limp lot who went down tamely, home and away, to Munster in the Magners?

How can dependable, all-weather gameplans evolve with a unbiddable head-banger at outhalf; a superannuated Aussie crabbing inconsequentially at scrumhalf and a backrow lacking either a linking rover (sin of omission: Keith Gleeson was deaf to all pay or persuasion to give it a Johnny Logan?) or a lethal lumberjack (one of commission: non-selection of Seán O’Brien).

And contrast the disaffection among Leinster clubs with Munster Rugby. Munster Rugby has the goodwill of its provincial clubs. Not just the top-table Shannons, Garryowens, Cork Cons – it’s just as much the nascent likes of Cashel, the Castleislands and Carrick-on- Suirs. Most people I know in Leinster junior rugby are Munster supporters by inclination: they relate to a genuine entity that well represents them abroad. Chapters of Reds in Connacht, Ulster and across the diaspora have viscerally connected to a noble concept: a group of sportsmen has truly earned the troth of its motley; and a roiling terrace knows its faith is acknowledged in kind.

Reggie Corrigan had a weekend slap at “Lunsters” – Jonathan-come-latelies turned Redcoats. Some may of course be prawn-sandwich opportunists, but the vast majority I reckon became disenchanted over bitter years on the concrete steps of Donnybrook by the fundamentally uncaring “performance” of so-called professionals who simply couldn’t be arsed.

Appreciation of Munster’s simple virtues is now widespread. The text questions above came from Llanelli stalwarts. They know their rugby, their captain for years has been the revered Simon Easterby – who in his prime would have dovetailed seamlessly with most Munster backrows – and they are envious but admiring aficionados of the Munster project. The Scarlets even “get” Leinster: they’ve got their local ladyboys, the Neath-Swansea Ospreys. As my Llanelli friend Dewi might put it: “Niall bach, our Ashtrays are just like your Leinster – all fur coat and no knickers.”

One feels sorry for Leinster diehards – almost – and those three-quarter thoroughbreds. Just a couple of Magners from that sleek slew of gilded genius, lads? As Felipe might say: Jesús,

María y José!

But it’s really, genuinely not just about results. We’ve been to Lille and back, suffered the Backhand. Folks, it’s this simple: we Reds love the magnificent gestalt that is our Munster, we care deeply for these people who have leavened our quotidians with joy and brio and serious fun, we have endless time for our players who viscerally reciprocate our ardour.

Soon after seven o’clock this evening, the ultimate Red shout of the evening will succumb to susurrus, and in that fine sibilance will resonate our most recent epiphany. Bless these men.

And the answers: 1 A tourist; 2 At this stage, I’ll do anything for points; 3 Both gather people in stadiums and torture them.

Niall Kiely is a former Irish Times journalist and contributes
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Wow, that hasn't surfaced for a long time, are you feeling nervous?

I wonder how long Sexton will stay on the pitch once Whycherly comes on?
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irishrugbyua wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:30 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:06 pm I just hope our lads do their mammies proud and don't get beaten too badly by big money Leinster
Snyman and DeAllende must be playing for free.
Playing for the honour of pulling on the world famous Munster jersey.
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Nobody beats Munster 5 times in a row
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Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:21 pm Wow, that hasn't surfaced for a long time, are you feeling nervous?

I wonder how long Sexton will stay on the pitch once Whycherly comes on?
1 win in 9 we know IRFU won't let that continue so fully expect a Munster win. Which Leinster player are Munster going to tap up after game?
Shane that is Whycerlys one and only highlight in a Munster jersey :P
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Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:28 pm
Mr. Very Popular wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:21 pm Wow, that hasn't surfaced for a long time, are you feeling nervous?

I wonder how long Sexton will stay on the pitch once Whycherly comes on?
1 win in 9 we know IRFU won't let that continue so fully expect a Munster win. Which Leinster player are Munster going to tap up after game?
Shane that is Whycerlys one and only highlight in a Munster jersey :P
Let's see,
Props, nah we'll be grand thanks
Hooker :lol: :lol: :lol: Leinster are starting a 70 year old Limerick Man
2nd row, we'd take Ryan until Ahearne settles in.
Backrow, I'd take Conors, to be an impact sub.
Half backs, I suppose we could use Sextons Kerry chipiness in the dressing rooms.
Backs, I'd take Henshaw, and put him in his best position of 13.
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Play off for the second/ third Province this season.

G'wan the CFs :thumbup:
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Bogbunny wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:41 pm Play off for the second/ third Province this season.

G'wan the CFs :thumbup:

Thanks, that means a lot from the premier province. :thumbup:
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Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:39 pm When was the last time Munster beat us 15 v 15? That 1 win was after Lowe got sent off after 32 mins.
At least our greatest interpro rivals beat us 15 on 15 :thumbup:
If that knacker Lowe didn't get sent off for nearly killing (Earls?) We'd still have won.
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